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MattusMaximus said:
One thing's for sure, if the rhetoric I've seen here and elsewhere on the Internet is any indication: our politically-oriented media will have a frakkin' field day with this. I can't wait for all the political talking heads on Fox News, MSNBC, etc to twist this tragedy into some kind of argument for why their side is good and the other side is evil. More slop for the pigs to gobble up :rolleyes:
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Sad to know that JREF is on the same level as Fox and MSNBC when it comes to this.
 
MattusMaximus said:
Nothing you've said is dependent upon facts, either.
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So Dr. Tiller wasn't murdered? Sarah Palin didn't put rifle crosshairs on Gifford's district? Her tea party opponent didn't have a fundraiser where people paid to shoot pictures of her with M-16's? Sharron Angle did not make the "second amendment remedies" comment?

My arguments are completely based on fact, they just do not depend upon the shooter having any particular motive.

But please, share the awesome factual foundation upon which your arguments are built.
 
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MattusMaximus said:
One thing's for sure, if the rhetoric I've seen here and elsewhere on the Internet is any indication: some of our politically-oriented media will have a frakkin' field day with this, using it as the latest excuse to sell the latest swill to us. I can't wait for all the political talking heads on Fox News, MSNBC, etc to twist this tragedy into some kind of argument for why their side is good and the other side is evil. More slop for the pigs to gobble up :rolleyes:
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And if any good comes out of this tragedy, a discussion of the over the top Rebub fearmongering would be it.
 
mummymonkey said:
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If that's the Jared in those posts, he doesn't fit the description of a 22 yr old, but I guess it isn't impossible.
 
Thunder said:
I'll bet the guy is mentally disturbed, but still is a fan of right-wing politics and personalities.

....a little redundant...I know.
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He's all over the place:

Dorian Gray said:
Books:
I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/u/1/nHoaZaLbqB4
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Karl Marx, Ken Kesey, Lewis Carroll, Plato... not exactly at the top of the Right Wing Book Club.
 
Drudgewire said:
Karl Marx, Ken Kesey, Lewis Carroll, Plato... not exactly at the top of the Right Wing Book Club.
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How about Mein Kampf. That's a right-winger's all-time classic.

I think they all get one under their pillow after they lose their first tooth.
 
its clear, that except for The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf, this guy's book selection is a standard for any good anti-Authoritarian self-made revolutionary.
 
I found this on the shooter's youtube channel. Not sure if anyone else here on the JREF forums have pointed this out before but, it seems that the shooter was into mind control and something called "conscience dreams":

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/u/2/PnNx0WThoF0

Somehow, I am reminded of that conspiracy nut who flew a small airplane into the pentagon a while back. Can't remember that guy's name though.
 
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applecorped said:
Sad to know that JREF is on the same level as Fox and MSNBC when it comes to this.
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So you have no comment about the right wing rhetoric about guns and violent remedies unless it turns out it directly caused this incident? You're OK with that campaign tactic until it leads directly to a murder or shooting?
 
Cain said:
You think by just mouthing the blandest platitudes you're making a point? Please, continue as others have in this thread thinking out loud.
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Whatever the quality of the point, you still missed it.
 
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