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Psychic Detectives are real

polomontana

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Psychic detectives are real and so are psychics in general. Some of them do cold reading like Sylvia Browne and John Edwards but some of them are real and especially the ones on the T.V. show like Nancy Myers and Phil Jordon.

I think when you watch the TV show Psychic Detectives with that alone it doesn't leave any doubt that psychics are for real. These psychics don't just say there's someone in the family who's name begins with H. These psychics tell detectives what the victim is buried in, how they were killed and more. They even have composite drawings made of the criminal before the police even have a suspect.

To believe the skeptic, you would have to suspend all reason. You would have to believe that these ladies spent their whole lives preparing to fool these detectives. You have veteran detectives who are trained to be skeptical vouch for these psychics. You had one show where a psychic's composite drawing 10 years earlier helped to crack a cold case. They put the drawing on the news and they caught the criminal. She said he killed her because she was about to spill the beans. The guy confessed that he killed her because she threatened to tell his wife about their affair. I could go on and on with examples but I'm sure people have seen the shows.

It's well known that we survive death naturally it's just not widely accepted because people have a vested interest in death after death. We are energy in motion and our material bodies are in a state of decoherence. Death is the unraveling of decoherence. The material body dies but not their energy. Energy can't die because it can't be created or destroyed and that's the 1st Law of Thermodynamics. I will not bore you with the physics but life after death has been written about in peer reviewed journals.

I think psychic abilitity is something that occurs naturally and the only thing supernatural about it is we are yet to fully understand it. If you were to go back 2,000 years ago and clone a sheep many of the people of that time would call it a supernatural event.

Psychic ability could be related to the firing of synapse. A child is more aware than an adult and an adult is more self aware than a child. This is why a child see's things and it's easier for them to believe certain things. That's because they are more aware of there surroundings than adults and it could be tied to the firing of synapse. A child has 10 quadrillion synapses and it degrades with age to 1-5 quadrillion. Because of the uncertainty principle a percentage of adults synapses will not fully degrade and these people are more aware than the average adult while still being self aware. These people are psychic. I think this is just one avenue that can be explored.

I think people resist psychic ability because of the implications of life after death and this threatens ones belief system. So they call psychic ability something that's supernatural when it's something that occurs naturally.

I can go on and on but I will stop here. Again, life after death occurs naturally and it's known but not accepted because of people's belief systems. They are invested in death after death.
 
Welcome, Polomontana.

I disagree with nearly everything you've said.

You've said a lot.
 
I think people resist psychic ability because of the implications of life after death and this threatens ones belief system. So they call psychic ability something that's supernatural when it's something that occurs naturally.
So it should stand up to scrutiny and rigorous testing, like other real, natural phenomena, right?

If you know any psychics, or if you have psychic ability, perhaps you could make some specific predictions here on this forum about the future, and we could see how accurate they turn out to be.

Could you give us some specific names regarding the cases you mentioned, and the veteran detectives who vouch for psychics?
 
Nobody has ever shown "psychic ability" under controlled conditions in any meaningful way whatsoever. No one has even been particularly convincing under ANY circumstances. So, by what evidence would anyone logically assert that it "occurs naturally"?
 
Psychic detectives are real....
To believe the skeptic, you would have to suspend all reason....
It's well known that we survive death naturally....
Psychic ability could be related to the firing of synapse....

Welcome Polomontana.

Very funny.

Thank you. :D
 
Here we go....

Psychic detectives are real and so are psychics in general.

Well, if you mean they exist, then yes: They are real. As for them having real psychic powers, there is still no evidence.

Some of them do cold reading like Sylvia Browne and John Edwards but some of them are real and especially the ones on the T.V. show like Nancy Myers and Phil Jordon.

Why? What, exactly, is it Nancy Myers and Phil Jordan do that is not cold reading?

I think when you watch the TV show Psychic Detectives with that alone it doesn't leave any doubt that psychics are for real.

You do realize that the TV show is a dramatization?

These psychics don't just say there's someone in the family who's name begins with H. These psychics tell detectives what the victim is buried in, how they were killed and more. They even have composite drawings made of the criminal before the police even have a suspect.

Name one case where the psychic did not use cold reading (or even hot reading), but could directly lead the police to the scene of the crime and/or give a specific name of the killer.

Just one, and we'll examine the evidence.

To believe the skeptic, you would have to suspend all reason.

No, it is the other way around: To believe the psychic, you would have to suspend all reason.

You would have to believe that these ladies spent their whole lives preparing to fool these detectives.

Not at all. Some start out rather late in life, discovering that their attempts of playing the psychic meet with favorable responses from gullible bereaved people.

You have veteran detectives who are trained to be skeptical vouch for these psychics.

And then, we have many more who do not vouch for them. Veteran detectives also make mistakes. Now, what?

You had one show where a psychic's composite drawing 10 years earlier helped to crack a cold case. They put the drawing on the news and they caught the criminal. She said he killed her because she was about to spill the beans. The guy confessed that he killed her because she threatened to tell his wife about their affair. I could go on and on with examples but I'm sure people have seen the shows.

Which one was this? I probably have the show taped, so we can check.

It's well known that we survive death naturally it's just not widely accepted because people have a vested interest in death after death.

Which "interest" is that? Why don't you similarly point to those who definitely have a vested interest in life after death - e.g., the psychics?

We are energy in motion and our material bodies are in a state of decoherence. Death is the unraveling of decoherence.

What on Earth does that mean??

The material body dies but not their energy. Energy can't die because it can't be created or destroyed and that's the 1st Law of Thermodynamics.

You are right about energy, but the laws of thermodynamics refer to energy that can be detected.

I will not bore you with the physics but life after death has been written about in peer reviewed journals.

Which peer reviewed journals are those?

I think psychic abilitity is something that occurs naturally and the only thing supernatural about it is we are yet to fully understand it. If you were to go back 2,000 years ago and clone a sheep many of the people of that time would call it a supernatural event.

Yes, indeed, because they had no understanding of natural laws. We do today.

Psychic ability could be related to the firing of synapse. A child is more aware than an adult and an adult is more self aware than a child. This is why a child see's things and it's easier for them to believe certain things. That's because they are more aware of there surroundings than adults and it could be tied to the firing of synapse. A child has 10 quadrillion synapses and it degrades with age to 1-5 quadrillion. Because of the uncertainty principle a percentage of adults synapses will not fully degrade and these people are more aware than the average adult while still being self aware. These people are psychic. I think this is just one avenue that can be explored.

Perhaps. It could also be that children are less able to distinguish between fantasy and reality. In fact, it is more likely so.

I think people resist psychic ability because of the implications of life after death and this threatens ones belief system. So they call psychic ability something that's supernatural when it's something that occurs naturally.

We have yet to see evidence of just one supernatural phenomenon.

I can go on and on but I will stop here. Again, life after death occurs naturally and it's known but not accepted because of people's belief systems. They are invested in death after death.

Let's examine your claims, then.
 
I think when you watch the TV show Psychic Detectives with that alone it doesn't leave any doubt that psychics are for real. These psychics don't just say there's someone in the family who's name begins with H. These psychics tell detectives what the victim is buried in, how they were killed and more. They even have composite drawings made of the criminal before the police even have a suspect.

With so many real psychic detectives at large why do we have any unsolved crime cases in the world? Why do we need any real detectives? Let's just fire the old-school detectives, put a few psychics on the payroll, clean up all the cold cases between solving current ones and enjoy our new utopian police force. Once we caught up with all the cold cases we could start arresting people before they commit crimes and have a utopian society free of crime.

South Park has a pee in your pants episode where Cartman suffers a concussion and wakes up with psychic powers and helps the police. When the psychic union representative comes looking for the union's cut of his reward money he has them arrested.

Cartman was always one-step behind the latest copycat serial murder. Once one copycat was arrested another copycat would strike. That episode is a hoot!
 
If you're basing your judgment off of a television program (which has been recreated, edited and post-processed), then I have to say that you haven't any judgment at all.
 
Alas, polomontana, the mere statement of your opinions in this matter is unlikely to convince anyone who isn't already a believer. For every single one of your statements, one could easily say "No, it isn't", "No, it doesn't", "I don't", or some other contradictory statement. That doesn't advance the situation at all. Your mere belief in the matter is irrelevant.

Can you name one or of the cases where these TV psychic detectives provided the police with valuable leads that helped them to solve the crimes? Otherwise, we just have your say-so.
 
They're real except for the fact that they can't find anyone, provide any useful information or anything of any help whatsoever.
 
They're real except for the fact that they can't find anyone, provide any useful information or anything of any help whatsoever.
:D

Well, if they know the area in question, they might be able to give you directions to the nearest Burger King.
 
I think psychic abilitity is something that occurs naturally and the only thing supernatural about it is we are yet to fully understand it.


I just wanted to say hi before this thread grows to three hundred pages and you get schooled in the art of critical thinking.

For the record, I think this is the same as that "Robert Lancaster Is The Devil" thing.
 

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