Plume in Flight 93 photo is different

[Killtown]

How can I have lied, Killtown?

I linked the very post where you made that mistake. Just a few posts later, I ask whether you understand why you can't add a speed to a length, and you say "no."

It's all in this thread, black and white, clear as crystal.

What's also clear is who is lying. I'll give you two guesses.

About the math thing, I don't even remember what I was adding, so I don't event know if I used the right calculations to do what I really didn't know what I was adding. If I remember correctly, I was simply adding two sets of numbers you gave me. But hey, keep trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill if it makes you happy.

About the other lies, I'm forbidden to discuss it, so looks like we are ***** out of luck.

 

[Killtown]

No, I do not. Things that have 10x as much energy tend to behave differently. Feel free to drop an egg from an inch off a table, and then 10 inches. You'll see the difference is remarkable.

YOu forgot to answer my 1st question.

you egg comparison proves my point actually.

 

[Bell]

YOu forgot to answer my 1st question.

you egg comparison proves my point actually.

And you forgot to answer my question about which plane did crash at Shanksville. But I have concluded from that, a few hours ago, that you agree UA 93 crashed at Shanksville.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Lies, lies, and more lies.

Sayeth the liar.

 

[Killtown]

And you forgot to answer my question about which plane did crash at Shanksville. But I have concluded from that, a few hours ago, that you agree UA 93 crashed at Shanksville.

Whatever floats your boat.

 

[R.Mackey]

About the math thing, I don't even remember what I was adding, so I don't event know if I used the right calculations to do what I really didn't know what I was adding. If I remember correctly, I was simply adding two sets of numbers you gave me. But hey, keep trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill if it makes you happy.

About the other lies, I'm forbidden to discuss it, so looks like we are ***** out of luck.

Ah.

So you've backpedaled from "R.Mackey, you're a liar" to "Well, maybe I did, but I don't remember, and it's your fault anyway."

Nice try.

This thread and your blunders in it are the albatross around your neck, Killtown. You will get no respite until you start undoing your misdeeds, and that means apologizing to Val. Count on it.

 

[Bell]

Whatever floats your boat.

Whatever you agree to.

There's a new thread about this, in case you missed it.

 

[Killtown]

Ah.

So you've backpedaled from "R.Mackey, you're a liar" to "Well, maybe I did, but I don't remember, and it's your fault anyway."

No, you just present a narrow version of the story which basically means you are a liar.

 

[Bell]

No, you just present a narrow version of the story which basically means you are a liar.

 

[R.Mackey]

No, you just present a narrow version of the story which basically means you are a liar.

Once again, I've linked to your errors in this thread. Very, very stupid ones.

My "narrow version" and my presentation are irrelevant.

So, no, it doesn't mean that I'm a liar. It means that you are incompetent. Your statement above, however, means that you are also a liar.

Keep on digging that hole, Killtown. You don't have a way out.

 

[Anti-sophist]

YOu forgot to answer my 1st question.

The answer to your first question is irrelevant until we establish the answer to the second question. Why do you think it's fair to compare to events that differ by a factor of 10 in energy?

I can show what a car wreck looks like at 20 miles per hour, and then show what a car wreck looks like at 60 mph. They don't look the same, but they are both car wrecks.

you egg comparison proves my point actually.

Oh really?

 

[Killtown]

Oh really?

I"m just answering this because it will relate to the other questions.

An egg dropped on cement and a faster speed will splatter further. Since their was not much "splattering" at the crash scene and officials said the plane burrowed underground in which they had to dig 15ft(?) down to find it, I conclude that the fireball was relatively small, therefore a smoke plume no where near 700 yrds wide.

 

[R.Mackey]

I"m just answering this because it will relate to the other questions.

An egg dropped on cement and a faster speed will splatter further. Since their was not much "splattering" at the crash scene and officials said the plane burrowed underground in which they had to dig 15ft(?) down to find it, I conclude that the fireball was relatively small, therefore a smoke plume no where near 700 yrds wide.

Add "short attention span" to the list of charges. You're in reruns now, Killtown. See the post linked below:

The Hardly Boys, in the Case of the Burrowing Aircraft

 

[Killtown]

Add "short attention span" to the list of charges. You're in reruns now, Killtown. See the post linked below:

The Hardly Boys, in the Case of the Burrowing Aircraft

Hmm, funny none of these "bits of debris" raining down managed to land on the grass around the crater. Only in the middle of the crater, the forest, Indian Lake, and beyond.

 

[Anti-sophist]

I"m just answering this because it will relate to the other questions.

An egg dropped on cement and a faster speed will splatter further. Since their was not much "splattering" at the crash scene and officials said the plane burrowed underground in which they had to dig 15ft(?) down to find it, I conclude that the fireball was relatively small, therefore a smoke plume no where near 700 yrds wide.

You've just attempted to explain how a plane crash at 500mph would react based upon an egg hitting concrete. These events are 10000x (a guess) different in energy, and yet you think it's a fair comparison?

 

[R.Mackey]

Hmm, funny none of these "bits of debris" raining down managed to land on the grass around the crater. Only in the middle of the crater, the forest, Indian Lake, and beyond.

Good luck proving that. I think you just made it up.

Go on, prove you're not lying again!

 

[Killtown]

You've just attempted to explain how a plane crash at 500mph would react based upon an egg hitting concrete. These events are 10000x (a guess) different in energy, and yet you think it's a fair comparison?

Since there wasn't much "egg splatter" at the scene, then most of the "egg" and it's "yoke" must have burrowed underground thereby not leaving much option for creating a 700 yrd plume that drifted 250yrd in 50 seconds without dissapating.

 

[Killtown]

Good luck proving that. I think you just made it up.

Go on, prove you're not lying again!

Do you see any debris on the grass around the crater?

Do you disagree that debris was found in Indian lake and beyond?

 

[R.Mackey]

Do you see any debris on the grass around the crater?

Do you disagree that debris was found in Indian lake and beyond?

I said prove it, not ask more stupid questions.

Prove your statement, or else, as a known liar and mathematical dunce, your statement is automatically viewed as suspect.

 

[Killtown]

I said prove it, not ask more stupid questions.

Prove your statement, or else, as a known liar and mathematical dunce, your statement is automatically viewed as suspect.

Well no debris on the grass is an objective one requiring eyesight and looking at the crash scene photos.

As for debris found at Indian Lake 2 miles away:

Workers at Indian Lake Marina said that they saw a cloud of confetti-like debris descend on the lake and nearby farms minutes after hearing the explosion that signaled the crash at 10:06 a.m. Tuesday.

http://post-gazette.com/headlines/20010913somersetp3.asp

And past that:

America Under Attack: FBI and State Police Cordon Off Debris Area Six to Eight Miles from Crater Where Plane Went Down

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/13/bn.01.html