Plume in Flight 93 photo is different

[R.Mackey]

Well no debris on the grass is an objective one requiring eyesight and looking at the crash scene photos.

That's what I thought.

You can't prove it. You're just making stuff up again.

Shame on you, liar.

 

[Killtown]

That's what I thought.

You can't prove it. You're just making stuff up again.

Shame on you, liar.

Well show me plane debris on the grass around the crater and I'll retract my statement.

 

[Anti-sophist]

Since there wasn't much "egg splatter" at the scene, then most of the "egg" and it's "yoke" must have burrowed underground thereby not leaving much option for creating a 700 yrd plume that drifted 250yrd in 50 seconds without dissapating.

Allow me to repeat the comment you replied to, since you failed to address it:

You've just attempted to explain how a plane crash at 500mph would react based upon an egg hitting concrete. These events are 10000x (a guess) different in energy, and yet you think it's a fair comparison?

 

[R.Mackey]

Well show me plane debris on the grass around the crater and I'll retract my statement.

Doesn't work that way. You said there wasn't any. You now admit that you don't know what you're talking about.

You lose. Again. The longer this thread gets, the more mistakes you make. No way out, liar.

 

[Killtown]

Allow me to repeat the comment you replied to, since you failed to address it:

yes.

 

[Killtown]

Doesn't work that way. You said there wasn't any. You now admit that you don't know what you're talking about.

You lose. Again. The longer this thread gets, the more mistakes you make. No way out, liar.

What did I lie about?

 

[CptColumbo]

Since there wasn't much "egg splatter" at the scene, then most of the "egg" and it's "yoke" must have burrowed underground thereby not leaving much option for creating a 700 yrd plume that drifted 250yrd in 50 seconds without dissapating.

You do realize that the "yoke" in your analogy would be jet fuel. Which would burn away.

 

[R.Mackey]

What did I lie about?

What didn't you lie about?

 

[Killtown]

You do realize that the "yoke" in your analogy would be jet fuel. Which would burn away.

burn away underground???

 

[Killtown]

What didn't you lie about?

I haven't lied about anything, so go out a prove I did Mr. Knowitall.

 

[Gravy]

No debris around the crater? Is Killtown that stupid? This is from his website.

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[Anti-sophist]

Well his entire argument is based upon the assumption that what happens to an egg is roughly equal to what happens to an airplane.

An egg dropped from 10 feet has about 5 joules of energy. An airplane at 575mph and about 250,000 pounds clocks in around 5 billion joules of kinetic energy, plus the chemical energy of the fuel (which is many times higher). That's only a factor of 1,000,000,000 to 1. Seems like a reasonable extrapolation to me.

(edit to fix math, not that it matters)

 

[R.Mackey]

No debris around the crater? Is Killtown that stupid? This is from his website.


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Well, Killtown, there's yet another thing that you've lied about. Not only did you lie when you said there was no debris on the crater, but you actually had evidence of it.

Not just a simple lie, no. Actually withholding and misrepresenting evidence. Willful intent to deceive. But that's par for the course for you, eh Killtown?

Thanks, Gravy.

 

[Killtown]

Well, Killtown, there's yet another thing that you've lied about. Not only did you lie when you said there was no debris on the crater, but you actually had evidence of it.

Hmm, funny none of these "bits of debris" raining down managed to land on the grass around the crater. Only in the middle of the crater, the forest, Indian Lake, and beyond.

I'm sorry, who's lying?


And I'm sure you guys will say "middle" does not mean on or in, but for my post, middle means same as on or in.

 

[Gravy]

Well, Killtown, there's yet another thing that you've lied about. Not only did you lie when you said there was no debris on the crater, but you actually had evidence of it.

Not just a simple lie, no. Actually withholding and misrepresenting evidence. Willful intent to deceive. But that's par for the course for you, eh Killtown?

Thanks, Gravy.

This has been posted here before, but Killtown needs his nose rubbed in his lies as much as possible. See any debris, Killtown?

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[Killtown]

Well his entire argument is based upon the assumption that what happens to an egg is roughly equal to what happens to an airplane.

An egg dropped from 10 feet has about 5 joules of energy. An airplane at 575mph and about 250,000 pounds clocks in around 5 billion joules of kinetic energy, plus the chemical energy of the fuel (which is many times higher). That's only a factor of 1,000,000,000 to 1. Seems like a reasonable extrapolation to me.

(edit to fix math, not that it matters)

Happens to fuel when it burrows underground at any speed?

 

[CptColumbo]

burn away underground???

You said

Since there wasn't much "egg splatter" at the scene, then most of the "egg" and it's "yoke" must have burrowed underground thereby not leaving much option for creating a 700 yrd plume that drifted 250yrd in 50 seconds without dissapating.

I was giving an alternate and more likely explaination, for what happened to the "yoke." Rather than being buried underground, it burned up. Thus smoke. Also pointing out yet another way that your analogy is flawed.

 

[Killtown]

This has been posted here before, but Killtown needs his nose rubbed in his lies as much as possible. See any debris, Killtown?

When was that photo taken?

 

[Killtown]

Rather than being buried underground, it burned up. Thus smoke.

Burned up where?

 

[Anti-sophist]

When was that photo taken?

Heh, gotta love the circular reasoning. Conspiracy hypothesis invoked to eliminate evidence against the conspiracy hypothesis.