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Ongoing Adventures of Kyle Rittenhouse

Ziggurat said:
No. By shoplifting.
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Then you obviously have evidence they were shoplifting, right? You know this for sure, I assume. That's why you're defending Kyle.

Ziggurat said:
That's nice. The video doesn't show everything the people there saw.
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Ok, so what did the people there see? Not Kyle, we can't trust him. Please link me to the news articles or details that show multiple people on-site, at that time, also said these people were shoplifting. If you can't provide that then you'll have to just retract this claim as made up ********.
 
Thermal said:
That's what the Saga of Captain Kyle is all about. It has dead zero to do with self defense, and everything to do with the far-right fascist fantasy of putting yourself in a crowd of people you don't like and shooting your way out with legal impunity. It's a coward's wet dream.
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I am extremely confident in saying that I agree with whomever said it upthread that at some point the grandeur of this situation is going to fade for Kyle. It's going to cause him to do something stupid to re-up the attention he now needs to have his ego stroked the way it has been. I have no doubts he'll put himself in a situation like this again, only to have it not work out the same.

I would be shocked if, should there be more BLM protests\riots in some random part of the country, Kyle will show up with gun in hand in hopes to recreate this situation.
 
plague311 said:
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I would be shocked if, should there be more BLM protests\riots in some random part of the country, Kyle will show up with gun in hand in hopes to recreate this situation.
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You meant to type "I wouldn't be shocked if..." -- right?
 
webfusion said:
The word is getting out -- criminals will be shot.

https://lmtribune.com/northwest/sec...cle_5fe0f631-6033-5693-a403-e3d02c6dc137.html

and

https://www.10news.com/news/local-n...urity-guard-outside-downtown-san-diego-ralphs

and others....
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I used to live a couple of blocks from that Ralph’s. If I knew there was a possibility of bullets flying whenever there’s shoplifting, I’d stop shopping there.

A: I don’t think people should die for shoplifting. B: I don’t feel like putting myself at risk of stray bullets
 
webfusion said:
(Note: Walmart loses approximately $3-billion every year as a result of theft!)

https://www.valleynewslive.com/cont...nd-drugstores-locking-up-latex-567743701.html

What is it you don't believe? That people waltz in and just take what they want and leave, nonchalantly?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEuoSmW4DRw
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I think we recognize that shoplifting occurs. So what? The question on the table is whether a teenage vigilante should be empowered to open fire on persons he suspects of shoplifting, or should be encouraged to imagine such behavior is okay. What businesses choose to do about shoplifting, whether locking up valuable goods, hiring security guards or installing monitored cameras, has nothing to do with Rittenhouse.
 
Bob001 said:
I think we recognize that shoplifting occurs. So what? The question on the table is whether a teenage vigilante should be empowered to open fire on persons he suspects of shoplifting, or should be encouraged to imagine such behavior is okay. What businesses choose to do about shoplifting, whether locking up valuable goods, hiring security guards or installing monitored cameras, has nothing to do with Rittenhouse.
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Like I said, millions of Americans would like nothing better than to be allowed to open fire at the outlaws preying on communities, in furtherance of their opinion that these thugs need to be 'taught a lesson' and not permitted to run rampant in their criminality.

https://ktar.com/story/4722356/woma...n-phoenix-store-booked-for-aggravated-assault

and

https://www.actionnews5.com/2021/12/03/business-man-indicted-shooting-killing-shoplifter
 
Vigilantism is what the righties are advocating for, especially if they are people of color or if they protest the killing of people of color. Webfusion and other righties in the thread made that very clear.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Vigilantism is what the righties are advocating for, especially if they are people of color or if they protest the killing of people of color. Webfusion and other righties in the thread made that very clear.
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People of color? How did you create that strawperson?

I am talking about outlaws -- criminals -- and the Kyle Rittenhouse trial did not involve 'people of color' anyway. Not a damned thing.
(the only 'person of color' individual shot at by Kyle did not get fully identified in court and remained known only as "JumpKickMan"-- Maurice Freeland, a guy with lots of run-ins with cops for his unruly and anti-social behaviors).



Meanwhile: https://www.yahoo.com/news/supermarket-employee-stopped-thieves-stealing-040142620.html
Are you paying attention, plague311 & carlitos?
 
webfusion said:
People of color? How did you create that strawperson?
I am talking about outlaws -- criminals -- and the Kyle Rittenhouse trial did not involve 'people of color' anyway. Not a damned thing.
(the only 'person of color' individual shot at by Kyle did not get fully identified in court and remained known only as "JumpKickMan"-- Maurice Freeland, a guy with lots of run-ins with cops for his unruly and anti-social behaviors).

Meanwhile: https://www.yahoo.com/news/supermarket-employee-stopped-thieves-stealing-040142620.html
Are you paying attention, plague311 & carlitos?
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"... or if they protest the killing of people of color."
The shootings occurred during the protests, riots, and civil unrest that followed the non-fatal shooting of a black man, Jacob Blake, by a white police officer.
Are you paying attention, webfusion?
 
webfusion said:
Like I said, millions of Americans would like nothing better than to be allowed to open fire at the outlaws preying on communities, in furtherance of their opinion that these thugs need to be 'taught a lesson' and not permitted to run rampant in their criminality.
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And those "millions of Americans" would be textbook examples of vigilantes deserving prosecution and punishment to the fullest extent of the law, as were the criminals cited in your links.
 
dann said:
"... or if they protest the killing of people of color."
The shootings occurred during the protests, riots, and civil unrest that followed the non-fatal shooting of a black man, Jacob Blake, by a white police officer.
Are you paying attention, webfusion?
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I saw that the shootings occured during RIOTING, yes.
Rioting is not legal protest. It is NOT constitutionally-protected activity.
The trial was specifically about an armed ambush, and then further illegal attacks, against Kyle.
In circumstances where he had every right to be.
 
Bob001 said:
And those "millions of Americans" would be textbook examples of vigilantes deserving prosecution and punishment to the fullest extent of the law, as were the criminals cited in your links.
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People across this nation are requesting the laws be changed to permit it.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/publi...rida-more-tolerant-of-deadly-force-_172777330

Perhaps Kyle Rittenhouse can step into this debate, and become a powerful voice for those changes? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_looting_starts,_the_shooting_starts
 
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gabeygoat said:
I used to live a couple of blocks from that Ralph’s. If I knew there was a possibility of bullets flying whenever there’s shoplifting, I’d stop shopping there.

A: I don’t think people should die for shoplifting. B: I don’t feel like putting myself at risk of stray bullets
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I recall a visit to the Philippines. In front of many retail establishments and malls and nightclubs, were security men armed with shotguns at the ready, protecting against robberies of the cash.
 
webfusion said:
People across this nation are requesting the laws be changed to permit it.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/publi...rida-more-tolerant-of-deadly-force-_172777330

Perhaps Kyle Rittenhouse can step into this debate, and become a powerful voice for those changes? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_looting_starts,_the_shooting_starts
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Woweee! Acrost the nation! Floridia, anyway. Soon the world some folks yearn for will become real, and righteous gunfire will ring out louder than the bells of freedumb!

Gosh, maybe even -- it could happen -- Karl Herrenvolk himself will give you a kiss.

A bloody kiss from the wishing well.
 
sackett said:
Woweee! Acrost the nation! Floridia, anyway. Soon the world some folks yearn for will become real, and righteous gunfire will ring out louder than the bells of freedumb!

Gosh, maybe even -- it could happen -- Karl Herrenvolk himself will give you a kiss.

A bloody kiss from the wishing well.
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Took six pages, but Godwin's Law finally came into play.
 
webfusion said:
People across this nation are requesting the laws be changed to permit it.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/publi...rida-more-tolerant-of-deadly-force-_172777330

Perhaps Kyle Rittenhouse can step into this debate, and become a powerful voice for those changes? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_looting_starts,_the_shooting_starts
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I honestly don't understand how you can read the first few paragraphs of that article you linked - that describe what would be a murder in any civilised jurisdiction - and still think your vigilante ideas are anything other than utter ****.
 
webfusion said:
People across this nation are requesting the laws be changed to permit it.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/publi...rida-more-tolerant-of-deadly-force-_172777330

Perhaps Kyle Rittenhouse can step into this debate, and become a powerful voice for those changes? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_looting_starts,_the_shooting_starts
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Those people are psychopaths, and I reserve the right to shoot them on sight to protect my countrymen.

They’re also usually racist *****, so no harm no foul
 
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