One Million Rupees Offer to prove "Homeopathy is Paranormal"
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M Sarwar, welcome to the forum!
Like the others, I assume that you are one of the new Pakistani homoeopaths who have joined here lately. If you have followed the thread, you will know that people here have been quite desperate because there seem to be so many homoeopaths, but none seem to be able to write anything intelligent about homoeopathy (or indeed any other matter).
There are many of the skeptical users here who know a great deal about homoeopathy, and for all we know, it is complete unscientific nonsense, the theory being decidedly against the physical laws as they are understood, and the practice impossible to distinguish from placebo.
We all hope that you, as a new user, could perhaps throw some light on why homoeopaths, and especially the Pakistani school of homoeopaths, on one hand claim that homoeopathy is scientific, and on the other hand are completely silent on the nature of this claim.
When people claim something of this nature, and then refuse to back up their claim, we naturally suspect that they are not very confident that their claim is worth anything.
Perhaps you are one of Dr MAS's pupils, and perhaps you are also in the dark about how he intends to prove his claim, but perhaps you could tell a little about how he teaches his pupils, when he aparently will not discuss his theories with anybody who has not already won a couple of Nobel prizes for themselves.
Like the others, I assume that you are one of the new Pakistani homoeopaths who have joined here lately. If you have followed the thread, you will know that people here have been quite desperate because there seem to be so many homoeopaths, but none seem to be able to write anything intelligent about homoeopathy (or indeed any other matter).
There are many of the skeptical users here who know a great deal about homoeopathy, and for all we know, it is complete unscientific nonsense, the theory being decidedly against the physical laws as they are understood, and the practice impossible to distinguish from placebo.
We all hope that you, as a new user, could perhaps throw some light on why homoeopaths, and especially the Pakistani school of homoeopaths, on one hand claim that homoeopathy is scientific, and on the other hand are completely silent on the nature of this claim.
When people claim something of this nature, and then refuse to back up their claim, we naturally suspect that they are not very confident that their claim is worth anything.
Perhaps you are one of Dr MAS's pupils, and perhaps you are also in the dark about how he intends to prove his claim, but perhaps you could tell a little about how he teaches his pupils, when he aparently will not discuss his theories with anybody who has not already won a couple of Nobel prizes for themselves.
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steenkh said:
M Sarwar, be aware of this fact that your students are non-homeopaths, they have no educational background specially about medical subjects. If you are thinking to teach them something please keep this fact in mind that they do not want to learn rather argued un-necessary.
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I believe in the paranormal now. Only something paranormal could've produced the influx of insanity that has crept into the boards recently. Only something beyond the laws of physics could allow so many brains to hold contradictory and impossible views, then thrust them so violently and ignorantly and obliviously and repetitively across this forum. They've been so utterly and completely defeated, yet still they come stumbling in and pawing at everything like zombies in a horror movie.
We have gone through the looking glass here, people.
We have gone through the looking glass here, people.
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delphi_ote said:
And landed somewhere in the Center of the Universe...
Note... the Troll under a highway bridge munching on a VW Beetle is located in a neighborhood that has declared itself "The Center of the Universe"
Donks said:
You are hell responsible of creating so many situations where we were laughted at you.
If this time, we have provided you an occasion to laugh then you should appreciate us. 
Homeo Man
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So...Non-Sense Homeopath said:
DOCTOR Rolfe PhD, veterinary surgeon with a string of qualifications, has no educational background in medical subjects? And DOCTOR Badly Shaved Monkey PhD, also a veterinary surgeon with a string of qualifications, has no educational background in medical subjects? And not counting ALL the other PhDs in chemistry and mathematics here? And all the other medical doctors?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE TO LAUGH AT YOU? DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY WE THINK YOU ARE A TROLL?
Sheer cowardice on your part. Not only do you refuse to answer questions and discuss issues here, you are now trying to influence others to do the same. How low can you go?
You're a coward, Non-Sense Homeopath. A plain trolling coward, when you act like this.
Or you can prove you are not by answering questions about homeopathy. No arguments from us, just answers from you. Can you do that? I don't think you can, but then you may yet find some intestinal fortitude from somewhere and surprise me...
Homeo Man, did you read my post about the 6x Natrum Muriaticum? You're the one who likes to mix chemicals - what did you think?
Did you read Rolfe's post?
Tell us about your experience with silver nitrate. I have never used silver nitrate. What happens when you dilute it with your ethanol solution and make successive dilutions? Do you see anything interesting??
Did you read Rolfe's post?
Tell us about your experience with silver nitrate. I have never used silver nitrate. What happens when you dilute it with your ethanol solution and make successive dilutions? Do you see anything interesting??
How dare you tell whether we want to learn or not?Non-Sense Homeopath said:
If I say that I want to know something, then I really want to know! It is true that I consider homoeopathy a dangerous medical fraud, but if you - any of you - can prove otherwise, I am willing to change my mind.
Why should I or anybody be against a wonderful medical system that consists of pure water and magical rituals, if this system actually works, can cure everything and has no side effects? Except of course, it does not work: None of you homoeopaths have successfully conducted a scientifically controlled double-blind test. Even just explaining scientifically how homoeopathy "works" would be worthwhile, but for some reason you believe that only homoeopaths can understand it, and you may be right: the science in homoeopathy has nothing to do with the sort of science that has made people live longer than ever before and has eradicated smallpox and - almost - polio myelitis.
Apparently, Non-sense Homoeopath, you do not believe yourself that that there is any science in homoeopathy. Why else would you warn off other homoeopaths from explaining it to people here?
Mr. Sarwar. Welcome. lease ask any questions you like and allow us to as you questions about homeopathy.
Please ignore this post by Non-Sense:
Also, we find it rather amusing that a homeopath such as Non-Sense would be criticising the medical knowledge of other posters as he (and other homeopaths) have been repeatedly unable to answer any of the scientific questions posed to them.
And it is worthy of note that anyone with a qualification in homeopathic medecine in Pakistan will be entirely unqualified to practise medecine in any capacity in the Western World. The problem being, er, that they don't have the medical knowledge required.
We are all interested in learning on these boards, which is probably why so many people here actually have genuine scientific qualifications.
I hope you stick around Mr. Sarwar, and haven't just come over to these boards to evade questions, cause confusion and throw random insults around like Non-Sense and several others.
Please ignore this post by Non-Sense:
It is an utter lie. As explained above there are medical experts on these boards of many different disciplines. Please ask if you you would like to know who, and in what.Non-Sense Homeopath said:
Also, we find it rather amusing that a homeopath such as Non-Sense would be criticising the medical knowledge of other posters as he (and other homeopaths) have been repeatedly unable to answer any of the scientific questions posed to them.
And it is worthy of note that anyone with a qualification in homeopathic medecine in Pakistan will be entirely unqualified to practise medecine in any capacity in the Western World. The problem being, er, that they don't have the medical knowledge required.
We are all interested in learning on these boards, which is probably why so many people here actually have genuine scientific qualifications.
I hope you stick around Mr. Sarwar, and haven't just come over to these boards to evade questions, cause confusion and throw random insults around like Non-Sense and several others.
Chris Haynes
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Homeo Man said:You are hell responsible of creating so many situations where we were laughted at you.
I don't think that you are in a place to laugh. Not when hundreds of thousands of children in your country die. Your magic water is really no match against measles, pneumonia and HIV/AIDS:
http://www.pakistanlink.com/Headlines/May05/17/09.htm
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Zep said:
M Sarwar, Don't go after randi trolling members.
Homeo man is triple Ph.D in Veterinary and A. Sheikh is tetra Ph.D in chemistry. If I say like this, this does not mean that I am correct. Unless you specify your exact name, qualification, postal address, social identity number and phone number so that we could verify your claim, just like DR. MAS presented an example. His personal profile tells you everything. Set an example like that. Pictures are also available which confirms. Photocopies of documents are also available. This is the way to disclose your qualification. This is no way, I am triple ph.D ... non-sense
We are not trolling you are trolling when you say, we are ph.d and you don't tell us who are you, what is your real name. And where you located. etc. If anybody does not disclos, he or she is troll.
Pathetic. Totally pathetic. Sheer cowardice too.Non-Sense Homeopath said:M Sarwar, Don't go after randi trolling members.
Homeo man is triple Ph.D in Veterinary and A. Sheikh is tetra Ph.D in chemistry. If I say like this, this does not mean that I am correct. Unless you specify your exact name, qualification, postal address, social identity number and phone number so that we could verify your claim, just like DR. MAS presented an example. His personal profile tells you everything. Set an example like that. Pictures are also available which confirms. Photocopies of documents are also available. This is the way to disclose your qualification. This is no way, I am triple ph.D ... non-sense
We are not trolling you are trolling when you say, we are ph.d and you don't tell us who are you, what is your real name. And where you located. etc. If anybody does not disclos, he or she is troll.
ARE YOU GOING TO TEACH US HOMEOPATHY? "YES" OR "NO".
Apparently every troll thinks that others are like him ...Non-Sense Homeopath said:
No, this is the internet. We could easily fake even social security numbers and photographs. It is a question of trust.
We are not trolling you are trolling when you say, we are ph.d and you don't tell us who are you, what is your real name. And where you located. etc. If anybody does not disclos, he or she is troll.
The best way to prove that you are what you are is through your posts. Skeptics here have displayed a profound knowledge of science, whereas homoeopaths have displayed an equal lack of scientific knowledge. So who is to be trusted most?
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steenkh said:
You can send your fake information, we will sort you out by scientific means.