Moderated Obama birth certificate CT / SSN CT / Birther discussion

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Speaking of bull flop, did you see the ballot challenge filed by Gorden Warren Epperly of Alaska? In addition to the usual birther nonsense, he adds the claim that Obama is not a natural born citizen because of his race.

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Kestrel said:
Speaking of bull flop, did you see the ballot challenge filed by Gorden Warren Epperly of Alaska? In addition to the usual birther nonsense, he adds the claim that Obama is not a natural born citizen because of his race.

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I loved this phrase: 'Before the [purported] ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment ...'.

Is this joker actually questioning the validity of the 14th Amendment?
 
cwalner said:
I loved this phrase: 'Before the [purported] ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment ...'.

Is this joker actually questioning the validity of the 14th Amendment?
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There are some nuts out there that have done so.

interesting trivia, did you know that Ohio and New Jersey did not ratify the amendment until 2003?


He is also claiming that a women can not be POTUS also.
 
Alferd_Packer said:
There are some nuts out there that have done so.

interesting trivia, did you know that Ohio and New Jersey did not ratify the amendment until 2003?


He is also claiming that a women can not be POTUS also.
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That would make the Obama-Biden ticket and the McCain-Palin ticket invalid.
So the legal president since 2009 is ... Ralph Nader!
 
Alferd_Packer said:
There are some nuts out there that have done so.

interesting trivia, did you know that Ohio and New Jersey did not ratify the amendment until 2003?


He is also claiming that a women can not be POTUS also.
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I think we should lock him in a room with Carol Mosely-Brown and Condaleeza Rice, so he can explain to them his theories on political eligibility.
 
Well it seems Sheriff Joe Arpaio has gone full menard with the birther crap. The sad fact is that the "evidence" is nothing new, and the same ol' crap consistently debunked by the non insane crowd. Unfortunately the fact that at least one law enforcement official was either crazy or partisan enough to go along with it will make this event the birther equivalent of when the truthers bought that journal article for themselves.
 
If the standards of criminal investigations in AZ is anything like this, I foresee a massive flood of requests for retrials in that state very soon.

The lead investigator just stated flat out, that he found it suspicious that a PDF file was sitting on a computer 20 minutes before it was uploaded to the internet.

They were also threading mighty close to a couple of slander lawsuits. Not to mention claiming that they couldn't trust Hawaii officials to conduct a neutral investigation. That's going to go over well.
 
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fullflavormenthol said:
Well it seems Sheriff Joe Arpaio has gone full menard with the birther crap. The sad fact is that the "evidence" is nothing new, and the same ol' crap consistently debunked by the non insane crowd. Unfortunately the fact that at least one law enforcement official was either crazy or partisan enough to go along with it will make this event the birther equivalent of when the truthers bought that journal article for themselves.
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Shurff Joe is in "full distract" mode, trying to deflect attention form his troubles with the Justice Department. Unfortunately, he may be succeeding. The guy seems to be politically invincible. The only upside is the fact that he's 79 years old. He can't possibly last much longer (can he??!!??). :boggled:
 
Joe is a clown who has gotten too fat to fit inside the little car anymore.

The best part about this is that now the GOP owns this.

I can't wait for someone to ask Romney or Santorum about this.
 
Alferd_Packer said:
Joe is a clown who has gotten too fat to fit inside the little car anymore.

The best part about this is that now the GOP owns this.

I can't wait for someone to ask Romney or Santorum about this.
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Romney's already on the record:

Mitt Romney forcefully said Tuesday night that he believes President Barack Obama was born in America and that "the citizenship test has been passed."

"I think the citizenship test has been passed. I believe the president was born in the United States. There are real reasons to get this guy out of office," Romney told CNBC's Larry Kudlow the day after he formally announced that he's exploring a run for the White House. "The man needs to be taken out of office but his citizenship isn't the reason why."
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It will, of course, come as no surprise that this investigation has been anything but unbiased.

John Woodman, who wrote a book debunking the LFBC theories last year, contacted the potty posse and offered his assistance in helping the investigation.

They never responded to him. Yet, Mike Zulo, the guy who did most of the talking today, mentioned Woodman by name, so they must have been aware of him.
 
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What does "the PDF has layers" mean?
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Really it means they don't under how scanning works with OCR. Basically some birther opened the LFBC in Adobe Illustrator (why I don't know), and found a bunch of clipping paths which they wrongly interpreted as either different layers or clipping masks. The fastest way to determine that the theory is rather stupid is by looking at what is contained in these clipping masks, which is random little pieces that defy reason as to why that would be the preferred method of fakery.

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None of it is really provocative to someone who uses these programs a lot, or once in awhile. I came up with a similar result when I ran my COLB through a scanner using an OCR through Adobe Acrobat. According to the meta data the Obama LFBC wasn't even scanned through Adobe. Or to put it another way...the birthers immediately started grasping at straws the minute the White House posted anything.

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Example of the "layers" I got from mine, which I suppose is also fake.
 
fullflavormenthol said:
Really it means they don't under how scanning works with OCR. Basically some birther opened the LFBC in Adobe Illustrator (why I don't know), and found a bunch of clipping paths which they wrongly interpreted as either different layers or clipping masks. The fastest way to determine that the theory is rather stupid is by looking at what is contained in these clipping masks, which is random little pieces that defy reason as to why that would be the preferred method of fakery.

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/243294db9aed2ae620.png[/qimg]

None of it is really provocative to someone who uses these programs a lot, or once in awhile. I came up with a similar result when I ran my COLB through a scanner using an OCR through Adobe Acrobat. According to the meta data the Obama LFBC wasn't even scanned through Adobe. Or to put it another way...the birthers immediately started grasping at straws the minute the White House posted anything.

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/243294dba63f4822de.jpg[/qimg]

Example of the "layers" I got from mine, which I suppose is also fake.
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Ahhh, I see. Thanks!
 
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