Moderated Obama birth certificate CT / SSN CT / Birther discussion

[Chaos]

Romney's already on the record:

That makes him what... the second GOP politician worth talking about who acknowledges that Obama is eligible? The third?

 

[Paul]

Full story: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/02/us-sheriff-arizona-obama-idUSTRE82105V20120302

The comments on that are just depressing.

 

[Horatius]

The comments on that are just depressing.

But this bit is brilliant:

Arizona Democratic Party finance director Dan Mitchell later sent out an email seeking to parlay the sheriff's charges into cash donations for the party.

"Stop the ridiculous Tea Party, birther, GOP nonsense, click here to make a donation to the Democratic Party now," the message read.

Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt poked fun at Arpaio on Twitter, providing what he described as a link to a video feed of the news conference that instead directed readers to the opening credits of "The X-Files," a TV show about paranormal activity.

 

[Paul]

But this bit is brilliant:

Yep, it is so obvious to most people that Arpaio is a nut, which is his most endearing quality by far, that everyone can relax and have some fun.

Well, everyone except the aforementioned commenters, who should probably have to spend some time in one of Sheriff Joe's luxurious tents in the desert, eating bad food, wearing pink clothes and working on a chain gang.

 

[KDLarsen]

I'm almost annoyed, that none of the reporters present yesterday, had the present of mind to ask why exactly they were investigating a non-legally binding form in its non-paper form.

Because let's face it, the only legal document President Obama has shown, was the COLB he released in 2008, which, to my knowledge, was never the subject of this type of layers madness.

 

[Moss]

I find Arpaio both interesting and frightening. How can someone with such a broad experience (his time as DEA officer saw him stationed outside the US and should have exposed him to a lot of human suffering) be such a cruel dogmatic?

 

[Swagomatic]

I find Arpaio both interesting and frightening. How can someone with such a broad experience (his time as DEA officer saw him stationed outside the US and should have exposed him to a lot of human suffering) be such a cruel dogmatic?

He's really evolved into his current state. When he was first elected, I think it was 1992, he seemed a logical choice. He had lots of law enforcement experience, and he looked to be reasonably intelligent; he seemed to far outclass the competition. I voted for him - based on the assumption that a professional law enforcement officer was the way to go. Every decision he made, good or bad, was reinforced with adulation from his staff and from the voters. The further he went off the rails, the more praise and adulation he got.

He now has, arguably, more power than any other politician in the state. He's trying to hang on to that power by this birth certificate nonsense. It's a huge diversion so that people won't look too closely at his civil rights violations and his department's botching of over 400 child sex abuse investigations.

 

[crimresearch]

I find Arpaio both interesting and frightening. How can someone with such a broad experience (his time as DEA officer saw him stationed outside the US and should have exposed him to a lot of human suffering) be such a cruel dogmatic?

Never underestimate the corrupting effect of power. In the DEA, he was still in the middle of the chain of command, as Sheriff (IIRC, a constitutional office in AZ), he answers to no one.

 

[uk_dave]

I seem to recall somewhere in the bowels of this thread that the numpties in charge of worldnutdaily were going to take over a real publication via court action after it did an expose of their lunacy. Has all that been forgotten about now?

 

[tsig]

"Arizona sheriff says Obama's birth certificate a "forgery"

(Reuters) - A tough-talking Arizona sheriff, already embroiled in a Justice Department bias investigation, waded deeper into controversy on Thursday with an assertion that a probe by his office found President Barack Obama's birth certificate was a forgery." -- Full story: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/02/us-sheriff-arizona-obama-idUSTRE82105V20120302

County's don't over rule countries.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

County's don't over rule countries.

He actually suggested that he investigation might need to be moved "overseas."

 

[Paul]

I vote for Mexico.

 

[KDLarsen]

I seem to recall somewhere in the bowels of this thread that the numpties in charge of worldnutdaily were going to take over a real publication via court action after it did an expose of their lunacy. Has all that been forgotten about now?

That'd be the FARAH, et al. v ESQUIRE MAGAZINE, INC., et al. lawsuit, where WND were demanding a 9-figured damages sum. The docket is still active, but not much happening as far as I know. The latest entry was on January 27, when WND's councel Larry Klayman requested a status hearing by telephone.

A few interesting articles after yesterdays farce:
Birther Bribery: Is WorldNetDaily Trying to Influence Joe Arpaio? via the Huffpost
Arpaio Report via The Fogbow
RC Radio interview with John Woodman via Reality Check / Blogtalk Radio
Obama Conspiracy Theories Blog launches investigation into Sheriff Joe’s “Cold Case Posse” via Doc Conspiracy

 

[Biscuit]

County's don't over rule countries.

In the article I read yesterday he said he opened the investigation because 250 tea party members asked him to. That is far less than 1% of his constituents. If 251 people asked him to stop would he?

I that article he made it clear he didn't think the president was behind the forgery. Red meat for his rabid tea party and white supremacist friends and a little CYA for his next election.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

I seem to recall somewhere in the bowels of this thread that the numpties in charge of worldnutdaily were going to take over a real publication via court action after it did an expose of their lunacy. Has all that been forgotten about now?

The Esquire suit has been stalled in court for some time now.

The big problem is that the WND Lawyer in this case, Larry Klayman has moved on to other birther nonsense cases. Plus, he is apparently bankrupt (financially) among other issue.
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[KDLarsen]

The big problem is that the WND Lawyer in this case, Larry Klayman has moved on to other birther nonsense cases. Plus, he is apparently bankrupt (financially) among other issue. .

.. not to mention bankrupt (morally). He's been banned from a couple of courtrooms, been sanctioned, and he owes his kids a lot of money in child support (which is apparently why he's not too keen on leaving California for various trials).

 

[KDLarsen]

In the article I read yesterday he said he opened the investigation because 250 tea party members asked him to. That is far less than 1% of his constituents. If 251 people asked him to stop would he?

The interesting thing is, those 250 Teahadists were subjected to a birther lecture by none other than Jerome Corsi before they submitted that letter to Arpaio.

And Jerome Corsi appears to have been involved in this potty posse investigation, why else would he have been allowed to speak at the press event yesterday?

 

[Alferd_Packer]

Too bad Brietbart couldn't take Corsi with him.

 

[Moss]

He now has, arguably, more power than any other politician in the state. He's trying to hang on to that power by this birth certificate nonsense. It's a huge diversion so that people won't look too closely at his civil rights violations and his department's botching of over 400 child sex abuse investigations.

Well, the civil rights violations I knew about, even German media reported those, but 400 botched investigations? That seems a huge number of a very specific crime. How did his department botch those?

 

[Swagomatic]

Well, the civil rights violations I knew about, even German media reported those, but 400 botched investigations? That seems a huge number of a very specific crime. How did his department botch those?

Here's an article from the local news about it. Failure to investigate

It's tragic that he's able to divert attention away from himself with this nonsense.