Moderated Obama birth certificate CT / SSN CT / Birther discussion

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FYI, The Georgia Sevretary of State, Brian Kemp, just issued a press release stating that the President is eligible to be president.

LOL

poor birthers.
 
Maybe a touch off topic, but birther Joseph Farrah is under fire from the right now for claiming Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal are ineligible for the presidency on the grounds that their parents weren't citizens at the time of their birth (both in the U.S.).

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/02/02/bipartisan-birtherism-rubio-jindal-farrah-obama/
Yeah, that's the De Vattel crowd.

Then you have the hardcore Vattelites, who insist that both parents have to be Natural Born Citizens in order for the child to be Natural Born Citizen as well.

One of the birthers have apparently done the homework and come up with 14 different types of citizenship :rolleyes:
 
Maybe a touch off topic, but birther Joseph Farrah is under fire from the right now for claiming Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal are ineligible for the presidency on the grounds that their parents weren't citizens at the time of their birth (both in the U.S.).

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/02/02/bipartisan-birtherism-rubio-jindal-farrah-obama/

I see Tracy, AKA: KenyanBornObama, is there in the comments. That woman is totally nuts and has no life whatsoever other than the birther conspiracy.
 
Then you have the hardcore Vattelites, who insist that both parents have to be Natural Born Citizens in order for the child to be Natural Born Citizen as well.


I wonder when the fundamental illogic of that position will finally occur to them.
 
To take their argument to its logical conclusion, only people who can trace every single ancestor on both sides of their family back to people who were grandfathered in as citizens at the time the Constitution was written could be eligible for president. Just one foreign born ancestor, even if that was a hundred years ago, would disqualify a person (and obviously, descendants of slaves or Native Americans are also disqualified). Wong Kim Ark and Lynch v Clarke somehow don't count for these people, and neither does democracy.
 
To take their argument to its logical conclusion, only people who can trace every single ancestor on both sides of their family back to people who were grandfathered in as citizens at the time the Constitution was written could be eligible for president.

Do you all think there are any?

I've heard that some New England communities dislike outsiders and some families have lived there for centuries.
 
Do you really want worshippers of the Old Ones running your country? And how could you be sure that those persons hadn't been bred with the Deep Ones? Cthullu for President.
 
Do you really want worshippers of the Old Ones running your country? And how could you be sure that those persons hadn't been bred with the Deep Ones? Cthullu for President.

Absolutely! Why settle for a lesser evil?
 
Apparantly, Orly went to a $500 a ticket fundraiser for Newt.

After suggesting that the birther issue would be a boost to his campaign, she stated: "Somebody who wouldn't be good enough, who wouldn't be certified to pick tomatoes or clean bathrooms is sitting in the White House."

Newt responded: "That's a project you should pursue."

LOL
 
After suggesting that the birther issue would be a boost to his campaign, she stated: "Somebody who wouldn't be good enough, who wouldn't be certified to pick tomatoes or clean bathrooms is sitting in the White House."
That is some of the most vile and disgusting rhetoric I have ever heard any of the birthers spout.

Orlana must really be losing it, especially after having a few of her ballot challenges tossed, on top of losing the GA hearing.
 
And Orly's latest dump of bile.
Is Obama’s decision to destroy 80% of our nuclear arsenal, a payoff to an Iranian Muslim judge, who had Obama cornered with no identification papers and let Obama got scot-free???

As you know, Barack Obama was cornered in the state of Georgia on January 26, 2012. .... Even if I were to produce nothing, the judge had to rule in my favor, as Obama did not produce anything to prove his eligibility. I went further and produced 208 pages of evidence and at my own expense of over $11,000 flew 7 witnesses from all over the nation. I flew in another attorneyand computer/projector tech support person, we conducted a mock trial a day before the hearing (some witnesses arrived late due to airport delays and did not participate in mock trial). ...Obama not only was supposed to be removed from the ballot, he was supposed to be sent to prison at the very minimum. When I am saying prison, I am being very generous.
Suddenly this corrupt judge decided that Obama can be on the ballot. I researched the background of this judge and found out that he is an Iranian Muslim, who live in Boston and went to Boston University law school the same time as Obama went to Harvard. There is a good possibility that judge Michael Malihi and Barack Obama knew each other for some time. While there ae bios of every judge in the administrative court of GA, there is no bio for Malihi. There is no evidence of him working for any firms. There is a serious concern, serious question, whether former governor of GA, Democrat Zell Miller got some type of consideration to put Malihi in the position of an administrative judge without Malihi having sufficient experience. More importantly, there is a bigger question, what consideration did Obama give to Malihi, in order to keep Obama on the ballot without any valid identification papers, and not forward all of this information to the DA and AG for criminal prosecution of Obama.
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I'd say that's at least the Secret Service, the GA bar, the GA OSAH that ought to take notice. I'd add the CA bar, but history has so far shown that they give rule 10 all about their own rules.
 
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And to round off the midweek madness, we have the appeals/lawsuits against the GA SoS after the smackdown in Georgia. Without going anywhere, see if you can spot the problem...

SWENSSON v OBAMA
POWELL v OBAMA
FARRAR v OBAMA, SECRETARY OF STATE
 
And to round off the midweek madness, we have the appeals/lawsuits against the GA SoS after the smackdown in Georgia. Without going anywhere, see if you can spot the problem...

SWENSSON v OBAMA
POWELL v OBAMA
FARRAR v OBAMA, SECRETARY OF STATE

ah they left off the 's' after the 'v'? lol. Perhaps Obama holds the SoS as a secret sinecure!
 
And to round off the midweek madness, we have the appeals/lawsuits against the GA SoS after the smackdown in Georgia. Without going anywhere, see if you can spot the problem...*

SWENSSON v OBAMA
POWELL v OBAMA
FARRAR v OBAMA, SECRETARY OF STATE

(Shhhh - Let's see what happens by Friday.)

*Because you know, Obama runs Georgia's Elections
 
And Orly's latest dump of bile.

Reading that makes me feel a little sorry for her. She has allowed this issue to so warp her sense of reality, that the possibility that she might be wrong cannot even be conceived of in her mind. In order to protect her delusion, she has to fashion increasingly bizarre conspiracy theories to explain the courts rebuffing her.
 
As for the three stooges "appeal" of the Georgia Ballot challenge. The issue is that none of them, not even Hatfield, the local lawyer who should know better, has properly filed their petitions. (i'm not talking about the fact that they are filled with garbage legal theories, either, I'm talking about some basic procedural issues).

The mistakes are numerous and the sand is slipping down the throat of the hourglass.

I don't want to say much more at this point, but it is going to be interesting what happens over the next week.
 
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