Moderated Obama birth certificate CT / SSN CT / Birther discussion

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The White House web site says so.

They are the ones who released a document with clipping masks in it.
 
Gee, what a surprise...:rolleyes: the lunatic fringe still isn't satisfied even though they got Trumped... get it... Trumped... :p
 
FYI, if you open a pdf file, you can digitally sign it with a custom stamp and that stamp would be layered. What, you think they would deface an original doc?
 
So here’s a few nutty points about the birth certificate sure to be seized upon by the nonbelievers:
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I think that was something from the Smoking Gun link that you left out. Funny how that can happen when one purposely removes the context from something they quote.

Funny thing about Illustrator is that is actually will translate a document into vector graphics, which means that I will actually redraw the PDF, allowing for once to select groups. I am actually going to go out on a limb here and write that Illustrator (or any vector program for than matter) isn't the best way to forge any document.

You aren't finding any big thing here, because if the PDF itself were comprised of layers it would show it in all Adobe and Open Source programs that can read PDF. The fact that it only shows up in Illustrator is telling, it means it is a result of the way that program vectorizes files.
 
michaelsuede said:
A few more points of note from

www.thesmokinggun.com…
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Dude those aren't points, that's them making fun of you. They prefaced those points with

So here’s a few nutty points about the birth certificate sure to be seized upon by the nonbelievers:
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I just cannot believe you posted this here! Why? *facepalm*

ETA: Yeah fullflavormenthol you beat me to it I went to get a sandwich and now it's too late. goshdarnit!
 
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Well this thread could've been predicted... Where's his long form? If he released his long form this would all be over and done with.

Well it's been released and as expected you get threads like this. *yawn*
 
Yeah, they should have put out a debunking kit with it "Here's all the things they will try and say and here's why they will be wrong" Save us from having to do it, that would have been nice. I mean if it was my job or your job, we'd have thought to do that probably.
 
oh dear the birthers keep making a fool of them selfe......
amazing.
 
:D @ at the inability to debunk my statement about how Illustrator handles pdf scans.

Personally I blame the over abundance of pirated Adobe software combined with the lack of knowledge among the users as to how these programs function. To them it must be lack magic, and they stand in awe of vectorizing as if Criss Angel was cutting a women in half.

Are the birthers mind freaked!?!?!?
 
fullflavormenthol said:
I think that was something from the Smoking Gun link that you left out. Funny how that can happen when one purposely removes the context from something they quote.

Funny thing about Illustrator is that is actually will translate a document into vector graphics, which means that I will actually redraw the PDF, allowing for once to select groups. I am actually going to go out on a limb here and write that Illustrator (or any vector program for than matter) isn't the best way to forge any document.

You aren't finding any big thing here, because if the PDF itself were comprised of layers it would show it in all Adobe and Open Source programs that can read PDF. The fact that it only shows up in Illustrator is telling, it means it is a result of the way that program vectorizes files.
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Just wanted to say thanks for this post. I was looking through this thread to find some logic as opposed to just scoffing/mocking that isn't useful for understanding anything. (Have you all used this program before? As you make it seem so "obvious" this claim is wrong w/the scoffing.)

'Nother one bites the dust...
 
fullflavormenthol said:
:D @ at the inability to debunk my statement about how Illustrator handles pdf scans.

Personally I blame the over abundance of pirated Adobe software combined with the lack of knowledge among the users as to how these programs function. To them it must be lack magic, and they stand in awe of vectorizing as if Criss Angel was cutting a women in half.

Are the birthers mind freaked!?!?!?
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But how does it getting "pirated" make it harder? Wouldn't that make it easier to V the claim since it makes the software more available (such as, to the poor, including ones who might want to really learn something) for experimentation? It seems like a paradox.
 
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