Taarkin
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I wonder what took the Republican-appointed Director of Health so long? What are the Republicans trying to hide?Wonder why it took Obama so long....
I wonder what took the Republican-appointed Director of Health so long? What are the Republicans trying to hide?Wonder why it took Obama so long....
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1463012/pg1“Hate to bring this up, but I just checked the official web site for Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital and according to the information there, the name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital. According to the web site the name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978?”
Now? You mean it didn't before?But the weight of evidence now supports he was born in Hawaii.
Those are white guys. Different rules.Possibly helpful:
<Andrew Jackson, Woodrow Wilson, Thomas Jefferson, James Buchanan, Chester Arthur, Herbert Hoover>
http://immigration.about.com/b/2009/02/16/presidential-sons-of-immigrants.htm
Well, it seems like we have the next thing to keep the birthers occupied for the coming months.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1463012/pg1
1890 Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital founded by Queen Kapiolani and was intended to "propagate and perpetuate the race." The Hawaiian population had fallen from highs of 300,000 in 1778 to 73,138 in 1853....
Donald Trump's mother was born in Scotland.

It is certified. Just look and see the stamp for yourself. All Obama had to do was request it. There was never any legit reason he could not. You guys were just wrong.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
I find it outrageous that supposedly a 25 year old black man impregnated a 17 year old white girl, how was that legal in 1961? is it even legal in 2011??
So I see that thus far, dvictr is living up (or down, depending on your perspective) to the notion that even if the long form were provided, the birthers would immediately scream "it's a fake!" How about you, BaC? randman? What do you think of this development? This form would appear to answer all your demands... are you satisfied now? Or will you move the goalposts yet again?
Here's the question to the birthers: Now that Obama has requested and Hawaii has acceeded to his request -- as an "exception" to the state law, aren't you worried about an over-extenstion of Presidential power? If, at the President's request, Hawaii can make an exception in this case, why not other cases? What if the President makes a special request for, say, your information? Your state tax records? Your sealed juvinle criminal records?
If the President now "requests" what stops the states from acceeding to that request?
Now that you've got a precidence for State's "making and exception" based on the President's request, how do you go back to where the President is just like any other citizen?
Your glee at thinking your right here should be tempered by honest concern at increasing imperial like presidential powers. The bed you've helped make is one that we will all have to lie in, where Presidents are no longer mere citizens and only citizens, but where Presidents are, increasingly, King-like. George Bush and his signing statements, now Obama and his special request that states make "exceptions" to their laws to accomodate him politically.
Shame on you all.
Are you now convinced that Obama is a natural-born US citizen and eligible for presidency?
An interesting analysis on the whole issue, the key graph is below.
http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/blog/2011/04/27/thankfully-andrew-sullivan-is-not-a-lawyer/
“Quite literally, in order to release this document, the President had to ask to be treated as being above the law, even if it is a relatively trivial law in the grand scheme of things. Quite understandably, the State of Hawaii decided that this was a wise idea. That so many are prepared to insist that the President had an obligation to ask that he be treated as above the law from a very early date is far more troubling. “
That is exactly it. BAC et al were willing -- for the sake of their craziness – to elevate the President above the law. Nice. Thanks. Just what America needs, more Presidents who are above the law.
So just as I and others stated, he could have released this but waited.
On whether someone born of a father from a different nation meets the Constitutional requirements, I have previously stated I don't think they do, but that would have to be settled by the courts and should have been before he became president.
But the weight of evidence now supports he was born in Hawaii.
2) We have a state that is inundated with 1000's of phone calls to the DOH that requests information about his COLB, and more than likey so tired of the BS surrounding it, just caved in and provided it to him after the legal request was made.
in a time when Hawaii is seeing one of its worst budget crisis in years, where state works are forced to take furlough days so the state will not go broke, and workers still have to field questions for 3 years about Obama's birth certificate, enough comes enough. That legal request by his lawyers, is more than enough of a request to give them permission to send him a copy of his long form.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1463012/pg1
the birthers are not giving up without a fight
Scenario #2 it is.http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1463012/pg1
the birthers are not giving up without a fight
most birthers wouldn't change their minds if they were somehow transported back in time to 1961 and were there in the delivery room in Hawaii when Obama was born. It's the nature of the conspiracy theorist beast.
To let birthers dig themselves so deep into a hole of ignorance and stereotypical idiocy that they will never recover. He's a smart guy.Wonder why it took Obama so long....
That poster is obviously doing parody. It's performance art. No need to lump him/her in with any particular cause. He/she was going to produce a documentary on how the Chilean mining thing was faked, but "they" stole his film footage.
When I got out of the shower, he was talking about how Obama should release some college record or other to show us how he got into Harvard. /headslap![]()