Not another one?

[jammonius]

Here's a suggestion jam:

Pull your head out of your rear-facing grommet. Your paranoia might be enough to feed your own hate, but it has nothing to do with anyone else. I, for one, understand and appreciate that the Pentagon Police force have taken a page from the US Marines in Baghdad:

Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

The fact that a brain-dead acknowledged Truther thought he could take the fight directly to the Evil US Government pisses you off because it shines an even brighter light on the fact that you all indeed have damaged thought processes.

The fact that there are lunatics in this world who like to try to kill government security employees (eg: Mentally-impaired Russell Weston killed two Capital policeman at the US Capital...white-supremacist James W. von Brunn killed a guard at the Holocaust Museum...9/11 Truther John Patrick Bedell tried to kill Pentagon Police...nice crowd you people run with).

Go spread your hate and paranoia elsewhere.

Boy, talk about projection. Here's a poster who, on the one hand, puts in bold the following:

Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

and who then concludes by attributing "hate and paranoia" to someone else.

That's rich.

 

[Pardalis]

Good riddance.

 

[jammonius]

OT: But re-read his manifesto... In it he's complaining about the lack of regulations on corporations. Not exactly a "tea bagger" sentiment. In fact it's opposite. He was very anti-corporations. Of course he was an idiot thinking he could low-ball himself into work as a software engineer and not pay all his taxes.

True enough. Most people do not fit neatly into one category or another without some exception. And, in any event, I was not seeking to link tea bagger sentiment to terroristic suicide attacks.

Hey! Is that's where Obama's job's bill is creating jobs? Everyone in America will have 1 or 2 watchers watching their every move (plus a supervisor or two watching the watchers, and of course regional supervisors watching the supervisors or watching watchers!)

Let me double check for accuracy. Are you saying the federal govenment should do nothing to create jobs in the context of the near onto complete and total financial collapse caused by American dependency upon hyper capitalistic economic theory?

Don't forget who's watching the regional supervisors of the watching watcher supervisors of watcher watchings![/QUOTE]

 

[Drudgewire]

Boy, talk about projection. Here's a poster who, on the one hand, puts in bold the following:

Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

and who then concludes by attributing "hate and paranoia" to someone else.

That's rich.

You do realize he was talking about the people charged with guarding one of the most secure buildings on the planet, right?

 

[beachnut]

...
Yours is a quintessentially important observation and I thank you for ...

Your lies can inspire people to kill others? Good job identifying jet engines as wheel covers and fuselage as a horse trailer making up lies about 911. You might be the inspiration for the next person to take up arms and kill in the name of your lies, and the lies you support. Good job with the big letters.

Will your lies inspire the next? You spew lies and don't care.

 

[jammonius]

if 9-11 Truther organizations do not condemn this act of political murder, committed by one of their own, they must be seen as condoning it.

in cases like this....silence=acceptance.

I've read the wiki page the guy wrote and do not think Bedell's reference to 11 September is sufficient to characterize him as someone for whom the truth of 9/11 was all that much of a factor. The reference is tangential to what he described as his primary motivation, that of justice for a marine who died years earlier.

Bedell did not identify any organizational affiliation, such as there are, that might link him to "the truth movement." And, if in coming news cycles something of that nature does present itself, then members of any such organization can respond as they see fit.

Meanwhile, no, silence =/ acceptance.

 

[Thunder]

One less truther.

 

[jammonius]

You do realize he was talking about the people charged with guarding one of the most secure buildings on the planet, right?

I don't get that as being a point of emphasis of the original poster, but I do get what you are trying to say. I respond to you as follows:

I realize he was talking about the Pentagon, the headquarters of the US military apparatus that annually receives a monetary appropriation for the acquisition and use of lethal weapons which appropriation exceeds that spent by the rest of the countries on planet earth, combined. It is also the headquarters of a military that is currently invading and occupying and killing people in various countries, openly and clandestinely.

So, no, I do not agree to your characterization of "most secure buildings on the planet" as that way of putting it is euphemistic and propagandistic.

The Pentagon is responsible for massive death and killing and likely has a lot of enemies at all levels of human social organization from all parts of planet earth that are on the receiving end of the destruction meted out by the Pentagon. Therefore, the Pentagon is a legitimate military target for those who might like to defend themselves from what the Pentagon organizes, directs and carries out.

 

[Myron Proudfoot]

Looks like he came at Twooferism from the far right. Any bets on if he was also a Birther??

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsme...praised_private_property_rights_d.php?ref=fpa

 

[Drudgewire]

So, no, I do not agree to your characterization of "most secure buildings on the planet" as that way of putting it is euphemistic and propagandistic.

The Pentagon is responsible for massive death and killing and likely has a lot of enemies at all levels of human social organization from all parts of planet earth, therefore, the Pentagon is a legitimate military target fof those who might like to defend themselves from what the Pentagon organizes, directs and carries out.

Therefore "be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet" is a legitimate mindset for those who work security there, considering even members of its own populace consider it "a legitimate military target." And its use there wasn't in any way, shape or form ironic when weighed against some jackoff who tried to commit a random act of violence against them.

Looks like he came at Twooferism from the far right. Any bets on if he was also a Birther??

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsme...praised_private_property_rights_d.php?ref=fpa

Look at his Amazon wish list posted early in this thread, he certainly wasn't any fan of the previous administration.

 

[Myron Proudfoot]

Look at his Amazon wish list posted early in this thread, he certainly wasn't any fan of the previous administration.

Didn't say he was a republican, just that he came from the far right, not Rush Limbaugh but Alex Jones...

 

[bje]

Michael Shermer

Mar. 5 2010 — 12:38 pm
What’s the Harm? Answer: Pentagon Gunman was a 9/11 Truther

What’s the harm in believing nonsense? I get asked this all the time: “Oh come on Shermer, let people have their delusions, what’s the harm?”
I have a laundry list of retorts to this challenge, from the value of living in a rational world that is based in reality to tales of people who have died from discredited medical practices, such as “Attachment Therapy”—in April, 2000, 10-year old Candace Newmaker was smothered to death in blankets by therapists who were helping “rebirth” her so that she could properly attach to her adopted parents. Death by theory. (I wrote about this in Scientific American.)

continued at: http://trueslant.com/michaelshermer...arm-answer-pentagon-gunman-was-a-911-truther/

 

[Drudgewire]

Didn't say he was a republican, just that he came from the far right, not Rush Limbaugh but Alex Jones...

He really strikes me as one of those people that thinks anyone who leans at all left is a commie and anyone who leans at all right is a fascist. I actually tend to agree with jammonius when he says that that even his 9/11 views are probably being overplayed as a factor here. This fruit was so far down the rabbit hole everything was a conspiracy and everyone except him was part of it.

 

[BigAl]

He really strikes me as one of those people that thinks anyone who leans at all left is a commie and anyone who leans at all right is a fascist. I actually tend to agree with jammonius when he says that that even his 9/11 views are probably being overplayed as a factor here. This fruit was so far down the rabbit hole everything was a conspiracy and everyone except him was part of it.

The shooter apparently "podcast" his diatribe. Here's the audio. I take it to be libertarian and anti-government, the later being consistent with what he did last night.

http://www.breitbart.tv/pentagon-shooter-airs-anti-government-rants-in-podcast/

 

[Drudgewire]

The shooter apparently "podcast" his diatribe. Here's the audio. I take it to be libertarian and anti-government, the later being consistent with what he did last night.

http://www.breitbart.tv/pentagon-shooter-airs-anti-government-rants-in-podcast/

One less donor to the Ron Paul in 2012 campaign I take it.

 

[BCR]

Boy, talk about projection. Here's a poster who, on the one hand, puts in bold the following:

Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

and who then concludes by attributing "hate and paranoia" to someone else.

That's rich.

No jammanoius, he is being realistic. These bozo's make threats and one has to be prepared to deal with anything. I've got an open invitation for P4T/CIT to meet for a cup of coffee should they ever be in town. With most civilized and rational people I would not consider that a hazardous situation, but in their case I would be sure to be packing my 40 cal. to brunch.

 

[T.A.M.]

I will say only this.

Thank god he was stopped before he killed anyone. However, he has left a family who is now likely in tremendous pain at the loss of a son and/or brother. Keep that in mind when the need to make frivilous "screw him" comments are thrown out there.

TAM

 

[BenBurch]

Wasn't that nutbag who hit the Holocaust Museum also a Truther?

 

[BenBurch]

He really strikes me as one of those people that thinks anyone who leans at all left is a commie and anyone who leans at all right is a fascist. I actually tend to agree with jammonius when he says that that even his 9/11 views are probably being overplayed as a factor here. This fruit was so far down the rabbit hole everything was a conspiracy and everyone except him was part of it.

He had an email address on mises.org - that makes him some species of Libertarian or Objectivist.

 

[BenBurch]

I will say only this.

Thank god he was stopped before he killed anyone. However, he has left a family who is now likely in tremendous pain at the loss of a son and/or brother. Keep that in mind when the need to make frivilous "screw him" comments are thrown out there.

TAM

True. I forgot them. And I'm sorry they went through this.

Because having a child who is insane is not a reflection on parents. You can do everything right, even see the warning signs and spend years in therapy with a child and they can still turn out insane.