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BenBurch said:
Wasn't that nutbag who hit the Holocaust Museum also a Truther?
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Yep. That's why this jammonious dud needs to understand Denial is only a river in Egypt...his people and his movement are in fine company.
 
jammonius said:
Boy, talk about projection. Here's a poster who, on the one hand, puts in bold the following:

Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

and who then concludes by attributing "hate and paranoia" to someone else.

That's rich.
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Rich? You claiming you don't have paranoia? No hatred? That is the Truther movement writ large...it is their foundational emotions. It is the very bedrock of their existence - hating everything that this government and what this nation stands for and paranoid that THEY are watching you. It gets you Truthers so riled up all you want to do is go attack the Pentagon...or post on an internet discussion board. Big man, you are, jammonious.
 
MikeW said:
That's not the best of comparisons, though. Being a Catholic does not lead you to rob a store. Having a world view that says the authorities are largely evil, involved in and covering up mass murder, subverting democracy and are the enemies of the people is something that at least might lead to situations like this.
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Let's not confuse correlation with causation. The fact that the man was a truther doesn't mean that it led him to sociopathic and suicidal violence. Both may just be unrelated symptoms of the same mental illness.

The vast majority of even the most paranoid truthers never get so much as a jaywalking ticket. And some people were attacking cops and other authority figures long before 9/11 was even conceived.
 
Electorates.us has Bedell listed as a registered Democrat in Hollister, CA, which was what I expected.
 
Myron Proudfoot said:
Didn't say he was a republican, just that he came from the far right, not Rush Limbaugh but Alex Jones...
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As a proud card-carrying member of the 'far right', I can safely say that the man was not one of us. As a matter of fact, I have an interview with an AP reporter coming up in about an hour at Range USA (a shooting range) who is doing a story on the local tea party effort. I'll be sure to mention that to him as well :)

Just an FYI, Alex Jones ain't the 'far right'.
 
LibraryLady said:
To me, this looks like suicide by cop. He was that close to the security guards and only grazed them? He had to know they would shoot to kill
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And it was in front of the freaking Pentagon, for Heaven's sake...where there is a WHOLE lot of security at all times and a lot more since 9/11. I am betting a heavily armed MP team was on it's way to the doors after the first shot was fired.
 
Drudgewire said:
You do realize he was talking about the people charged with guarding one of the most secure buildings on the planet, right?
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Not just that, but also the site of multiple past terrorist attacks (the Bill Ayers bombing and 9/11) which resulted in 125+ civilian and military deaths.
 
BCR said:
As a proud card-carrying member of the 'far right', I can safely say that the man was not one of us. As a matter of fact, I have an interview with an AP reporter coming up in about an hour at Range USA (a shooting range) who is doing a story on the local tea party effort. I'll be sure to mention that to him as well :)

Just an FYI, Alex Jones ain't the 'far right'.
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To my ear his 15 second podcast rant is libertarian and anti-government and I would use a "far right" label without suggesting that all right-wing folks share all his views.

http://www.breitbart.tv/pentagon-shooter-airs-anti-government-rants-in-podcast/
 
Pinch said:
Tends to happen when you pull out a handgun and start shooting at Pentagon Police personnel. You think they would "shoot to wound"?
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It was said he had multiple head wounds. Usually, police won't even try to aim for the head because it's too easy to miss. They go for the chest instead.

These guys at the Pentagon must have been pretty cracker-jack shots, particularly considering they were under fire when they took him down.
 
aggle-rithm said:
It was said he had multiple head wounds. Usually, police won't even try to aim for the head because it's too easy to miss. They go for the chest instead.

These guys at the Pentagon must have been pretty cracker-jack shots, particularly considering they were under fire when they took him down.
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The assumption seems to be that any attacker WILL have body armor, so a torso shot might not be effective.
 
aggle-rithm said:
It was said he had multiple head wounds. Usually, police won't even try to aim for the head because it's too easy to miss. They go for the chest instead.

These guys at the Pentagon must have been pretty cracker-jack shots, particularly considering they were under fire when they took him down.
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And they might be trained to do that, in case the shooter is wearing body armor.
 
aggle-rithm said:
It was said he had multiple head wounds. Usually, police won't even try to aim for the head because it's too easy to miss. They go for the chest instead.

These guys at the Pentagon must have been pretty cracker-jack shots, particularly considering they were under fire when they took him down.
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Sounds like they were shooting high (under stress shooting can do that). My spread at the range is very minimal to the left-and-right of center mass, but my vertical spread can be rather extreme at times. That is an exaggerated range of error when shooting fast or under stress. So too high, center mass sounds like the case here.

Either that or they walked over and popped a few caps in his head just to be sure when it was over with.
 
I'm a connect-the-dots kinda guy, especially in this case...

Tell me how else to interpret this paragraph: 'I am determined to see that justice is served in the death of Colonel James Sabow, as a step toward establishing the truth of events such as the September 11 demolitions and institutions such as the coup regime of 1963 that maintains itself in power through the global drug trade, financial corruption, and murder, among other crimes.

September 9/11 DEMOLITIONS - he believed the 9/11 was an inside job. ie: he is, by definition, a 9/11 Truther. Case closed.

But wait, there's more.. 'coup regime of 1963' is obviously a reference to the JFK assassination, and the conspiracy theories surrounding it.

So he believed both JFK and 9/11 were 'inside jobs' or, as succinctly put by Alex Jones et al at Prisonplanet, 'False Flag' operations.

So he decided, apparently, to retaliate against 'the system' by shooting some random guards at the Pentagon. Gee, that's really brilliant. (not)

Thinking of that homegrown terrorist Timothy McVeigh, he focused on the controversial deaths of the Koresh followers in Waco, Tx, at the hands of overzealous ATF folks. As murderous as McVeigh was, his complaint was a lot more substantial than those of 9/11 Truth.

With thousands of unstable, angry and paranoid white men reading countless mythical, angry and paranoid accounts of the US government's (bush regime, as commonly referred to by truthers at JREF) false flag operation to murder 3000 innocent people, it's just a matter of time before more of them take random pot-shots at government personnel.

It is America's 21st Century witch hunt unfolding as we speak...
 
parky76 said:
i recall a post, several months ago, stating that a head shot was useless when trying to take down a truther.

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Apparently that's not the case... I feel sorry that this guy's mental illness went so far, but I have friends at the pentagon so I'm glad they're safe and that the guards performed so well...


Still waiting for the first twoofer to wonder why, if the guards were such good shots, they didn't shot down FT 77 on 9-11. :rolleyes:
 
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