Noah's Ark

[X]

Well X, if it's any consolation every rational poster (after numerous attempts to have a meaningful discussion), comes to the same conclusion.

It's entertaining to see the hoops that some will jump through to maintain their delusions, but I wouldn't recommend engaging them for anything but amusement purposes.

Entertaining?

I'd say sad.

 

[HghrSymmetry]

Entertaining?

I'd say sad.

I meant in a pathological sense. Case studies are at least interesting.

 

[Olowkow]

....
And now I am going to get some gold from that spot, I might film that too as I have found the spots to dig in by dowsing for them.

It would be a lot more efficient and lucrative to dowse for gold at the JREF's million dollar challenge. I just checked, gold is at $902 US per ounce. It would be like finding 1108 ounces of gold, and you could do it in air conditioned comfort.

 

[Paulhoff]

It would be a lot more efficient and lucrative to dowse for gold at the JREF's million dollar challenge. I just checked, gold is at $902 US per ounce. It would be like finding 1108 ounces of gold, and you could do it in air conditioned comfort.

He has done that, and guess what happened.

The million is still at JREF

Paul

 

[Olowkow]

He has done that, and guess what happened.

The million is still at JREF

Paul

Didn't know that. Really? Maybe it was not real gold...rods were not working right...not "feeling strong"...too much negative energy...nasty, nasty Paul!
There!

I outsmilied you.

 

[Paulhoff]

Didn't know that. Really? Maybe it was not real gold...rods were not working right...not "feeling strong"...too much negative energy...nasty, nasty Paul!
There!

I outsmilied you.

http://www.randi.org/jr/032902.html

Paul

 

[Olowkow]

http://www.randi.org/jr/032902.html

Paul

Thanks Paul, that was a long time before my time here on the forum. Very nice....er nasty of you.


Ah yes, Agent 99, it's the old "[FONT=arial, helvetica]gold lettering on a double set of the Encyclopaedia Britannica on the shelves located near cups #1 and #2[/FONT]" trick! He had calibrated to gold, and it was really bronze. That explains it all!

[FONT=arial, helvetica]Now, following the tests, Mike said that he'd found, all through the trials, that his stick was being "distracted" by the "gold" lettering on a double set of the Encyclopaedia Britannica on the shelves located near cups #1 and #2. Remember, he'd "tuned" his forked stick specifically to react to gold. We told him later that there was no gold in that location, either, since the book lettering is done with a bronze-powder ink. [/FONT]

 

[edge]

Isn't that strange as I found some.

Now that I have an optimized protocol, JERF and IIG won't even try to test me.

All of that because they won't let me measure each of the tests, which they say,... It can't be measured because the people behind physics say so,....Oh I forgot it will take to long to test,… my how scientific.
They don’t want the test to be truly scientific and spend the time and to top it off loose the money that would really suck, better to say no than for that to happen.

Here's how that went in a three-day event.

First day I went there I filmed and dowsed.
The second day I went there, I checked with about three big pan loads, that means I filled my pan with what was in those holes where the other miners dug those two holes in my film to see what they were getting and there were some fines in those glacial deposits, not much left and not worth the risk or time to keep going.

So I dropped back and went in those layers further down and found nothing.
Checked further back in the creek and there was nothing.

Checked one more spot where the book knowledge would say to look in the creek and nothing.

So I spent an hour or two in the non-dowser fashion, book knowledge, using geology and intuition.
Nothing, well a couple of specks, not worth the labor or time.

Sometimes that works but not always.

I then hit a spot that I dowsed, I spent approximately 20 minutes and I hit...4-penny weight.
Same thing the next day.
Then I had a miner come and visit us that stated he had mined that spot on and off for years and told me that some one had dredged that spot last year and I was wasting my time till he saw the gold I was pulling.

He said he had gone over the area with a metal detector.
He had been snipping a couple of days before me further up, I seen his hole in the creek and had pulled three penny weight.

This is SezMes test and the way to optimize the test to eliminate what happened in the office at the JREF.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2722440#post2722440

So just like the sand wave we must look at all the options to be sure and now I am.

I am sure they dropped my protocol because the odds had increased dramatically in my favor.
In other wards, that was one round that we did in an hour so ten of those are need to do the whole protocol.
If the projected out come is 10 misses in all ten tests that would mean 90% success rate.
Obviously the JREF or the IIG isn’t going to risk that!
The IIG won’t even answer me and even SEZME explained it to them.
So they and the JREF can’t say they don’t understand me, because it’s perfectly clear and it’s clear that the odds of wining has increased in my favor.
They are not going to chance it even if I pay for their time.

So that means that my theory of the reasons that I failed the first time was absolutely correct.

Just like religion you only look at one side of things.
I have perfected the protocol and now they won’t play.
I found evidence, but it can’t be.
But then I have the gold to prove it so there’s some evidence!
I almost forgot.
L.M.A.O. on the way to my bank.
There one up on ya.

 

[I Ratant]

Incoherence ratio tracks the desperation ratio in a 1:1 fashion.

 

[HghrSymmetry]

http://www.randi.org/jr/032902.html

Paul

ROFL...
Thanks P. I hadn't seen that one either.


I needed a good laugh this morning.

 

[joobz]

Isn't that strange as I found some.

Now that I have an optimized protocol, JERF and IIG won't even try to test me.

I always thought that dousing was magic derived from satan.

 

[edge]

I always thought that dousing was magic derived from satan.

That's questionable; I see no evidence for that to be true.

I think that it can be explained in scientific terms or at least one day.
I feel that it the reaction has been suppressed and maybe by Satan.
The background of the people testing these things, (atheistic) makes me wonder.

It might be a key or a way to tap into a universal energy that may be linked to Gods sustaining energies that are tied into gravity and I read some interesting stuff about the theory of 4 dimensional space time, event horizons.

To divine is contacting the spirit world.

There is much to contemplate on that idea but it works the same, always when I dowse.
Radrook and I discussed this behind the scenes in here.

There is also the Stubblefield experiments to consider and his theory on earth energies.

At any rate it has lead me to the discovery of the sand wave so I have to wonder.

Silentknight says:

Incidentally, I already showed him the maps of North America from the period when a giant sea covered it, and explained that they would have receded slowly in order to deposit sands. After all, sands are typically associated with shorelines. Despite the fact that the timeline AND the timescale of the receding seas would be way off, he insisted that they support the biblical flood story. There's just the small problem of how there weren't any humans around at that particular time 300 million years ago.

Then you have up lift of these ranges and later uplift from the rescission of the glaciers.
You are right but not quite.
Here is what you need to see, those deposits you are talking about and you will see that these deposits; if you watched my movies, are even a different color and about 1000 feet higher in elevation, (next time I go I will check that), and well known that these were ancient seashores.
The colors vary depending on the clays, which is, finer materials that have been stirred up with the currents depending on locations.
Here is a picture of what you are talking about.

 

[Paulhoff]

It might be a key or a way to tap into a universal energy that may be linked to Gods sustaining energies that are tied into gravity and I read some interesting stuff about the theory of 4 dimensional space time, event horizons.

To divine is contacting the spirit world.

There is much to contemplate on that idea but it works the same, always when I dowse.
Radrook and I discussed this behind the scenes in here.

There is also the Stubblefield experiments to consider and his theory on earth energies.

At any rate it has lead me to the discovery of the sand wave so I have to wonder.

Silentknight says:

Then you have up lift of these ranges and later uplift from the rescission of the glaciers.
You are right but not quite.
Here is what you need to see, those deposits you are talking about and you will see that these deposits; if you watched my movies, are even a different color and about 1000 feet higher in elevation, (next time I go I will check that), and well known that these were ancient seashores.
The colors vary depending on the clays, which is, finer materials that have been stirred up with the currents depending on locations.
Here is a picture of what you are talking about.

READ, Plate Tectonics.

LEARN.

Paul

 

[HghrSymmetry]

I always thought that dousing was magic derived from satan.

Good one.

(the whooshing sound is the blast of air as it flies over their heads)

 

[joobz]

That's questionable; I see no evidence for that to be true.

Of course not. Satan has fooled you into thinking it's good.

 

[Paulhoff]

It is funny to hear a dower looking for evidence.

Paul

 

[Foster Zygote]

That's questionable; I see no evidence for that to be true.

Hosea 4:12 My people consult their wooden idol, and their diviner’s wand informs them; for a spirit of harlotry has led them astray, and they have played the harlot, departing from their God.

 

[Madalch]

Hosea 4:12 My people consult their wooden idol, and their diviner’s wand informs them; for a spirit of harlotry has led them astray, and they have played the harlot, departing from their God.

The words "wooden", "wand", and "harlotry" do not belong in the same sentence.

 

[edge]

It is funny to hear a dower looking for evidence.

Paul

I do many things and study many more Paul; I don't sit on the computer all day like most of you.
I am not just a dowser it’s something I have an insight about.
There isn't anything that I can't accomplish or do.

Everything I have shown you is true.
I live in an active zone and have felt the ground move so I am very aware of what plate tectonics are about.

Hosea 4:12 My people consult their wooden idol, and their diviner’s wand informs them; for a spirit of harlotry has led them astray, and they have played the harlot, departing from their God.

I don't know what they were thinking, but it isn't close to what I do I don't consult spirits or ask questions of an idol with a, what ever a diviners wand is/was back then.

I haven't departed from my God, matter of fact if I had, I wouldn't be blessed in seeing and knowing that he works in my life and shows me the truth.

So your judgments of me is false and judge not, least you be judged.

I dig up everything I sense and find every little bit that registers and I know it's an interaction of metals in the ground with the metal I use in the stick.
Along with the field and body electric.
I am not tricking people with it and claiming I can get answers from above or below.

I can do the same with copper wire so that statement isn't true.
It's more like an antenna and free energy and free movement with very little input of electrical energies from me.
The work force is greater than the input of energy.

I have made a working model and have eliminated the human and organic elements with the use of a 9 volt battery so was the model going against the word …No..

The understanding I get from the overall picture is it may be something that can help us not destroys us.


I will have more films of other spots soon that prove a flood happened after the ice age.

The sand that glaciers deposit is very loose and the example that comes to mind is the Indiana dunes, I have been there.
I will speak more on that tomorrow.

 

[Paulhoff]

I do many things and study many more Paul; I don't sit on the computer all day like most of you.

I sit at the computer all day, so you live here with me and know what I do and don't do. By the way I will be going to work soon.

What have you shown to be true, what evidence have you shown, an old black book, pictures.

You show you have a closed mind, no one can show you that dowsing does not work. There have been so many tests for other dowsers and it has never been shown to work. And after all the failures, and they have all been failures, the dowser come up with some excuse has to why they fail, it is never that it doesn’t work, they just can't believe they are wrong.

You sound so much like my friend with his believe in speaker wire. He comes up with so much BS that I know that he just wants it to be true, and no amount of double-blind testing will convince him that he is wrong either.

Edge you need to open your mind to the possibility that you are wrong, completely wrong, until you can look at things from many different directions, your mind will remain closed even if you think that it is open.

I can see you haven’t really studied electronics, gravity, and none of the sciences, just by the way you talk about them, please get some real scinnce books and come back in a few years.

Paul