According to historian Michael Rissmann young Adolf was influenced in school by Pan-Germanism and Darwinism and began to reject the Church and Catholicism, receiving Confirmation only unwillingly. A boyhood friend reports that after Hitler had left home, he never attended Mass or received the Sacraments.
Notable Hitler biographer John Toland writes of Hitler's religion and its effect: "Still a member in good standing of the Church of Rome despite detestation of its hierarchy, he carried within him its teaching that the Jew was the killer of god. The extermination, therefore, could be done without a twinge of conscience since he was merely acting as the avenging hand of god..."
There is less controversy about other statements. Joseph Goebbels notes in a diary entry in 1939: "The Führer is deeply religious, but deeply anti-Christian. He regards Christianity as a symptom of decay." Albert Speer reports a similar statement: “You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[17] In the Hossbach Memorandum Hitler is recorded as saying that "only the disintegrating effect of Christianity, and the symptoms of age" were responsible for the demise of the Roman Empire.[18] In 1941, Hitler praised an anti-Christian tract from 362, Julian's Against the Galileans, saying "I really hadn't known how clearly a man like Julian had judged Christians and Christianity, one must read this..."[19]
Hitler advocated Positive Christianity, traditional Christianity purged of everything that he found objectionable. Hitler never directed his attacks on Jesus himself,[21] but viewed traditional Christianity as a corruption of the original ideas of Jesus, whom Hitler regarded as an Aryan opponent of the Jews.
Hitler believed in Arthur de Gobineau's ideas of struggle for survival between the different races, among which the "Aryan race" — guided by "Providence" — was supposed to be the torchbearers of civilization. In Hitler's conception Jews were enemies of all civilization.
In 1998 documents were released by Cornell University from the Nuremberg Trials that revealed Nazi plans to exterminate Christianity at the end of [[World War II[29] The documents cover the Nuremberg trials of leading Nazis and demonstrate the deliberate genocide of Jews during the Holocaust, in which some six million Jews were killed. One senior member of the U.S. prosecution team, General William Donovan, as part of his work on documenting Nazi war crimes, compiled large amounts of documentation that the Nazis also planned to systematically destroy Christianity.[30]
Donovan's documents include almost 150 bound volumes currently stored at Cornell University after his death in 1959, these documents state
"Important leaders of the National Socialist party would have liked to meet this situation [church influence] by complete extirpation of Christianity and the substitution of a purely racial religion," said an OSS report in July 1945. "The best evidence now available as to the existence of an anti-Church plan is to be found in the systematic nature of the persecution itself.
They also show the different steps involved in the persecution, including the campaign to suppress denominational and youth organizations, denominational schools, and the use of defamation against the clergy, orchestrated to started on the same day over the Reich and supported by the press, Nazi Party meetings and by traveling party speakers.[31][32] The documents show that the Nazis early on wanted the churches neutralized because they feared that the Churches would oppose Nazi plans based on racism and aggressive wars. The Nazis planned to infiltrate churches and use defamation, arrest and assault or the killing of pastors plus the re-education of church congregations. They also suppressed denominational schools and Christian youth organizations.
Hitler was opposed to state atheism, which for example was part of the political system of the Soviet Union, but he nevertheless desired a religiously neutral state system, at least during the years of his dictatorship.[36] He feared the political power that the churches had, and did not want to openly antagonize that political base until he had securely gained control of the country. Once in power Hitler showed his contempt for religion and sought to eliminate it from areas under his rule.
Thanks for the link blauregen
Foster zagote says,
So the suicide bomber is three years old? Actually, your scenario doesn't make the least bit of sense. It is a rambling, disjointed fantasy. Even if the bomber is older, if I shoot him with the crossbow, or gun, or trebuchet, or Wookie bowcaster etc. how is he then going to go on to kill others with his bomb?
He is not if you take him out, you kill the one terrorist, in turn it saves many generations of the innocent.
They are teaching their children to do this, not only that, but it is a form of suicide.
False teachings.
20 "But I did obey the LORD," Saul said. "I went on the mission the LORD assigned me. I completely destroyed the Amalekites and brought back Agag their king. 21 The soldiers took sheep and cattle from the plunder, the best of what was devoted to God, in order to sacrifice them to the LORD your God at Gilgal."
19 Why did you not obey the LORD ? Why did you pounce on the plunder and do evil in the eyes of the LORD ?"
22 But Samuel replied:
"Does the LORD delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices
as much as in obeying the voice of the LORD ?
To obey is better than sacrifice,
and to heed is better than the fat of rams.
Sam. 15:8). They also attacked the Israelites at Hormah (Num. 14:45). Saul and his army destroyed most of the people, and earned Samuel's wrath for leaving some of the people and livestock alive (1 Sam. 15:8-9) against the Lord's command. Saul and the tribal leaders also hesitated to kill Agag, so Samuel executed the Amalekite king himself.
Maimonides explains, however, that the commandment of killing out the nation of Amalek requires the Jewish people to peacefully request of them to accept upon themselves the Noachide laws and pay a tax to the Jewish kingdom. Only if they refuse is the commandment applicable.
"David waged a sacred war of extermination against the Amalekites," who may have subsequently disappeared from history. Long after, in the time of Hezekiah, five hundred Simeonites annihilated the last remnant "of the Amalekites that had escaped" on Mount Seir, and settled in their place (1 Chr. 4:42-43).
Saul disobeyed the order, as we all would have.
From Paul’s link.
Jews, of course, were not the only "holy" victims. In Yugoslavia, Hitler installed a Croatian, Ante Pavelic, as his puppet, and Pavelic, a Catholic like Hitler, began extermination of the Serbs, who were Greek Orthodox. One of my relatives by marriage is a Yugoslavian, a Serb, who survived World War II by going "underground" with the advent of Nazism in his country. Out of his immediate family of 17 (this includes his parents, siblings, aunts, uncles and first cousins), only three survived. His mother and sister just disappeared, his mother shortly after being given the opportunity to convert to Catholicism, an offer she refused. The Vatican was not unaware of the massacres conducted in Yugoslavia In the name of Catholicism, but Pope Pius remained diplomatically quiet. In fact, one of his actions was to receive Ante Pavelic in private audience, thereby giving his blessing to this regime.
Yugoslavian, a Serb, So was my father.
750,000 where killed. The Catholics were give a ransom for eyeballs cut out of Serbs heads, there were many bushel baskets filled with them turned in These are things left out of the history books.
My mother was half French and Half German, her father was in France and married before the war started, when the Germans invaded France and found him, learned, that he was a German, they then shipped him to the Russian front and was never seen or heard from again.
My mother and her mother and sisters were sent to a concentration camp that was liberated by the Americans.
The Catholics have a lot of false doctrines also.
I don't condone it but I still will not judge God and we can't see what the reasons were, only he knows what in the future these people where going to do and were capable of. Obviously their direct linage was a danger of some sort and how it was to be played out against the Hebrews or Gods plan is irrelevant since we have survived it.
Gods plan was fulfilled against them. It was demonstrated in miraculous ways.
So was his promise to the Hebrews and they didn’t even see it or at least the ones in power.
Some of these people’s genes are blended into all the surrounding societies that where present in that part of the world, as were the Hebrew peoples.
You have to remember that their name was eliminated from the world in the sense that they had no heritage no one can say this is the Amalekites country dog cattle or he is an Amalekite.
so you argue in favor of genocide. Then you claim that not all people living within the Axis powers were evil, and it was mostly their leaders who were bad, so you argue against genocide. There's a blatant double standard here. Also, how do you know this for a fact? Are you claiming omniscience for yourself, or is it just a matter of blindly believing everything the winners of genocide wrote to justify their actions?
That’s explained above my mothers linage her father and all of the surviving Germans today that were mislead. Many fled the country before the war.
No I do not. There is not enough information for me to say God was wrong.
Not even I can know all of the mind and thoughts of God.
God has kept many things hidden from the world so that faith can continue.
If he didn’t do this and it is repeated in the bible many times (he Hides things from us) and from the ones that wanted to suppress Christ’s mission especially. Herod would have killed the new king of the Jews before he accomplished redemption, salvation, and forgiveness for us all.
But some time in the future he will with out a doubt, demonstrate it to us all, if we live long enough to see it, that he is God visually.
If we don’t, we will see it anyway when we die, personally.
Did it ever occur to you that the Israelites were also wrong? Or is your argument based on the preschool mentality that two wrongs make a right?
They were wrong in many ways and many times, but not all are responsible for deaths of the past or that their ancestors didn’t all recognize the Messiah.
They are later conquered again by the Romans for disobedience.
After Christ the empire of Rome falls and Christianity replaces their beliefs.
Something that the anti-Jew, mindset, or anti-Semitics didn’t understand eh, do unto others as you would have done to you.
Okay, so you claim to know for a FACT that all of the people comprising the rival tribes that the Israelites waged war with were irredeemably evil, so you argue in favor of genocide.
The fact is that all the tribes weren’t evil since there was a blending of the races on both sides of the fence..
Maimonides explains, however, that the commandment of killing out the nation of Amalek requires the Jewish people to peacefully request of them to accept upon themselves the Noachide laws and pay a tax to the Jewish kingdom. Only if they refuse is the commandment applicable.