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Noah's Ark found?

See, I never got this...Turkey makes a poop-load of money from tourists. Imagine how much they can charge for "Resting Place of Noah's Ark".

Very dubious justification for not excavating

Well, no one wants to get shot by trigger-happy Turks and it's a long drop from Ararat to the base camp! : )

The newly formed Institute for Creation Research sponsored my first expedition in 1972. While our group of five strong climbers and photo-graphers didn’t find the Ark, we gathered new climbing details and an abundance of photographs and notes regarding the topography. As a result, the search grew in earnest.
I’ve journeyed thirteen times to Ararat, as others have done, including the now-deceased Apollo astronaut Jim Irwin. These trips have met with danger and varying success in helping to narrow the field of search. Not only is the mountain high and treacherous, but wild animals, intense storms, local bandits, and government opposition have been very real impediments. In recent years, Kurdish insurgents have used the mountain as a staging ground for terrorism throughout Turkey, as well as nearby Syria and Iraq.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n2/ark-been-found
 
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Nothing about the flood story makes any sense. That doesn't stop the believers from accepting it and it's a prime example of their tendency to ignore reality once they've predetermined their conclusions.
 
I have a simple question Radrook.

Do you believe that there were no rainbows before the flood?
 
I have a simple question Radrook.

Do you believe that there were no rainbows before the flood?

I believe that such a conclusion might be reached by people reading the text. The problem is that people reading the text sometimes go far beyond what is written. That's why it's better to say we don't know than to dogmatically assert what we think we know basede on what we think the text implies..
 
I believe that such a conclusion might be reached by people reading the text. The problem is that people reading the text sometimes go far beyond what is written. That's why it's better to say we don't know than to dogmatically assert what we think we know basede on what we think the text implies..

So you'd rather simply take things litterally, then ? What happens with contradictions ?
 
And the bacteria. Will no one think of the bacteria? I'm still wondering about smallpox, cholera, syphilis, etc., not to mention all the species-specific diseases.


I suppose that Noah and his family had to carry all of the sexually-transmitted human diseases.

I wonder how they decided who got to carry what?

They must have had a blast just before the skies darkened - 'God wants me to have lots and lots of sex! Kneel and serve the lord...'
 
I see no problem here since there was plenty of water around to place in basins and tanks and keep the animals needing moisture moist.
Syphilis could be carried in the gonads. Just kidding. LOL Those diseases might have developed later since the biblically described post- flood world had undergone some serious atmospheric changes. Some diseases might have been limited to animals and the jumped the animal human barrier like AIDS and Mad COW Disease did.


I'd like to see you keep squid, whales, jellyfish, tuna, sharks, etc. 'moist'.

Answer the points I raised in that post, Radrook, if you dare.
 
I'm really glad this thread is here.

I needed to be reminded of how absolutely insane the people are who believe this garbage.
 
I believe that such a conclusion might be reached by people reading the text. The problem is that people reading the text sometimes go far beyond what is written. That's why it's better to say we don't know than to dogmatically assert what we think we know basede on what we think the text implies..

Why can you never answer a simple question in a straightforward manner?
 
I suppose that if people can believe in Creationism, they can believe in the flood myth. People can believe just about anything.
 
Yep, they sure can.

Like they came from a rock by accident.

I respond to your posts in a civil manner and am ignored. The people who produce snide or insulting comments get responses.

I'll try the polite approach once more.

In a previous post, you told Marduk to "Try opposing him [Satan] for a change."


I am unclear what you mean by this. Would you elaborate?
 
I respond to your posts in a civil manner and am ignored. The people who produce snide or insulting comments get responses.

I'll try the polite approach once more.

In a previous post, you told Marduk to "Try opposing him [Satan] for a change."


I am unclear what you mean by this. Would you elaborate?

Sorry.
Opposing Satan is not saying "Satan sucks, come get me evil tough guy."
It is standing for what he opposes and works against.
Satan doesn't care if you believe in him, only that you not believe and serve God.
 
Sorry.
Opposing Satan is not saying "Satan sucks, come get me evil tough guy."
It is standing for what he opposes and works against.
Satan doesn't care if you believe in him, only that you not believe and serve God.

Thank you. I had completely misunderstood what you meant by that. You have cleared it up.
 
Sorry.
Opposing Satan is not saying "Satan sucks, come get me evil tough guy."
It is standing for what he opposes and works against.
Satan doesn't care if you believe in him, only that you not believe and serve God.

So presumably then you have some evidence that Satan exists, as hes not part of the same "faith" that you claim excuses you from having any evidence for the existence of God.
So lets see it, or are you for some reason just believing in Satan as well without any evidence just because some iron age stories told you to
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also, any idea why Satan doesn't exist anywhere on any text until after the babylonian exile ?
 
I have personal messages from Radrook and 154 to the effect that genetic drift pointing back to Africa (rather than Ararat) is inconclusive, since scientists change their minds and since North Africa is close to the middle east.

Of course, while scientists do change their minds when new data dictates, the preponderance of data continues to accumulate to the effect that shows the present world human population has African roots.

Also, the African source of the human race is more in east and south Africa, not North Africa.
 

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