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Noah's Ark found?

154 said:
You think it's a joke? You want to encounter Satan?
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I'm told he never chips in for beer. I say, "Get thee behind me!"

But....what do you think about eight people caring for thousands of animals on a wooden boat with no electricity?
 
154 said:
You think it's a joke? You want to encounter Satan? Try opposing him for a change. And then ask him, we've met. He knows me.
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They have decent medicines thesedays for people with religious mania who hallucinate. Just ask your doctor, or alternatively you could borrow some from Rory, hes not using them anyway
;)

Meadmaker said:
But....what do you think about eight people caring for thousands of animals on a wooden boat with no electricity?
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I'm thinking that they made Ham look after the pigs, beyond that not much
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Marduk said:
They have decent medicines thesedays for people with religious mania who hallucinate. Just ask yours, or alternatively you could borrow some form Rory, hes not using them anyway
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I am only extremely offensively real.
 
I haven't read all the posts, so someone may have mentioned this. If this ark is as perfectly preserved as the photos make it out to be, then why aren't Christians all over the world raising millions of dollars to excavate the entire thing and put it on display? It would be the greatest find in history. Billions of people would convert to Christianity. But do they do this? Of course not. Deep down inside they all know it's a hoax. In a few months no one will even remember any of this, even the most hardcore fundies will forget it.

Steve S.
 
154 said:
You think it's a joke? You want to encounter Satan? Try opposing him for a change. And then ask him, we've met. He knows me.
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Yes, it is a bit of a joke.
Why would anyone express a wish to meet a fictional character?
How does one oppose a fictional character?
How did you meet this fictional character?
How does this fictional character recognise you?

And lastly, do you believe the bible to be literally true?
 
kerikiwi said:
I had never thought of that angle, but it is spot on.
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Thanks. It's something I hadn't quite developed before now. I must give credit to Vortigern for what I think is the best part of it, though.

I'll have more to say on that later, but I think it's a pretty good argument. Of course, no believers are ever going to say, "You're right! I never thought of that. I'm getting a 'Skeptical Inquirer' subscription tomorrow!" However, the fact that it gets no response is a positive sign that it probably is at least somewhat persuasive.
 
Tricky said:
They mostly stay in their hives in which they control the temperature by various means. But the wouldn't survive being flooded for several days or years, nor could they stay aloft that long without food.

Just add this to the list of many thousands of reasons why there could not be a flood that covered the entire earth. You want more?
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The flood only lasted 40 days. That's just a little over a month. Animals weren't flooded. They are said to have been safe and dry in the ark.
 
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Meadmaker said:
I'm told he never chips in for beer. I say, "Get thee behind me!"

But....what do you think about eight people caring for thousands of animals on a wooden boat with no electricity?
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Here are some interesting articles:


How Were the Animals Cared For?
We must distinguish between the long-term care required for animals kept in zoos and the temporary, emergency care required on the Ark. The animals’ comfort and healthy appearance were not essential for emergency survival during one stressful year, where survival was the primary goal.

Studies of nonmechanized animal care indicate that eight people could have fed and watered 16,000 creatures. The key is to avoid unnecessary walking around. As the old adage says, “Don’t work harder, work smarter.”

Therefore, Noah probably stored the food and water near each animal. Even better, drinking water could have been piped into troughs, just as the Chinese have used bamboo pipes for this purpose for thousands of years. The use of some sort of self-feeders, as is commonly done for birds, would have been relatively easy and probably essential. Animals that required special care or diets were uncommon and should not have needed an inordinate amount of time from the handlers. Even animals with the most specialized diets in nature could have been switched to readily sustainable substitute diets. Of course, this assumes that animals with specialized diets today were likewise specialized at the time of the Flood.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n2/caring-for-the-animals
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How could Noah care for the animals?
http://creation.com/how-could-noah-care-for-the-animals

How Could Noah and His Family Care for the Many Animals on Board the Ark?
by John D. Morris, Ph.D.
http://www.icr.org/article/noah-and-animals/
 
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steve s said:
It rained for 40 days. The flood lasted longer.

Steve S
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True.


The Time Sequence of the Flood

First the rain fell for 40 days (during this time the waters reached their great depth). See Genesis 7:4.
Then the waters prevailed upon the earth (that is, the waters maintained their great depth) for 110 days (Genesis 7:24).
Next, the waters were "going and decreasing" for 74 days (Genesis 8:5).
After 40 more days Noah sent out the raven (Genesis 8:6-7).
After 7 more days Noah sent out the dove for the first time (Genesis 8:8 and compare 8:10).
After 7 more days he sent the dove for the second time (Genesis 8:10).
After 7 more days Noah sent out the dove for the third time (Genesis 8:12).
After 86 more days the earth had dried to the point where they could depart from the ark and settle elsewhere (Genesis 8:13-14).
TOTAL DAYS IN THE ARK: 371
Thus, Noah and his family spent more than a year in the ark!
http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/sciences/scienc9.htm
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steve s said:
Not a Bill Cosby fan, eh?

Steve S
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Did he make that joke? Actually, you are right. I never did find Bill Cosby funny. Neither did I find Jack Benny funny. Or Paul Rodriguez funny. Guess my sense of humor requires a different approach. But maybe if you explain it to me I'll get it. : )
 
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Radrook said:
True.
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You could answer the point I raised in my earlier post. Why aren't Christians all over the world doing everything they can to excavate the most important archaeological find in all of history? This would cinch it for the fundies. If they could excavate this thing (instead of just showing pics of a few boards) all the world would have to admit that the bible is the literal word of god.

Steve S
 
No kidding, if they can raise enough money to create a creation museum, they could fund a dig.

It doesn't matter, the lack of a genetic bottleneck in all extant species indicates that there was no reduction of all species' population to a few individuals at the same time.
 
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