Corsair 115
Penultimate Amazing
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The problem these days is that a lot of people equate criticism with hate. Doesn't matter whether the criticism is legitimate, it one criticized it one must therefore hate it.
I read the report, which I doubt anybody else here has. As it was produced by the House Intelligence Committee, it focused exclusively on the role of the CIA in the Benghazi attacks. Except for the shoddy process of producing the talking points (in which both the White House and State Department participated), the report exonerates the CIA. It does not exonerate either the State Department, the White House, or the military. In fact, although the appendix produced by the minority (i.e. the Democrats) tries to highlight the muddled and conflicting intelligence at the time of Susan Rice's infamous testimony on Sunday morning new shows, a fair reading of the evidence is that the administration cherry-picked a narrative it felt was least politically damaging out of the confused melange of reports available at the time.
The questions concerning the military's lack of preparedness, the State Department's inadequate planning, the actions and decisions made by the President during the attack, the weird focus on an internet video (as if that was worth mentioning, even if it had been the spark for violence), the subsequent arrest and imprisonment of the video producer, and allegations that State Department whistleblowers were punished, remain unanswered.
The House committee still investigating (for certain definitions) Benghazi are ready to spend an additional $3.3 million. That would put it's effective yearly budge above the House Intelligence committee.
The predictable rebuke to this is that it's Obama's fault they have to spend so much because he's still hiding the bad stuff. This assumes there is worse stuff. What is the way to tell the difference between actions consistent with nothing worse being there, and actions consistent with worse things being covered up? There hasn't been anything convincing presented here, so restating that isn't what I'm looking for. My point is that no matter what happens, no matter how much time and money is spent, it will never convince those who are already sure something is horribly wrong. Because one can't prove a negative, they will keep hunting for years. It's just like every other unsupported CT, only it has a House committee wasting time and money.
And, it seems they are ready to spend it again:
http://news.yahoo.com/boehner---i-m...benghazi-panel-in-new-congress-001822450.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzBvA2uEjUI
I think it's unfortunate those lives lost are nothing more than irrelevant puppets for the right.
I think it unfortunate those lives were lost, especially from incompetence, they could have easily been saved.
I think it unfortunate those lives were lost, especially from incompetence, they could have easily been saved.
I think it unfortunate those lives were lost, especially from incompetence, they could have easily been saved.
And you felt the same way about previous diplomatic deaths under other presidents, correct?
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If not, why?
I agree. The republicans should not have cut the funding for security.
why did you claim that there were "diplomatic deaths" when no diplomats died in any of those attacks?
In addition, your entire post is a tu quoque fallacy, a point I have explained several times in this thread.
As opposed to "aid workers" deaths in hospitals, "soldier" deaths on battlefields, "civilian" deaths in public markets, etc. These in question occured at diplomatic facilities. Diplomatic as an adjective, not a noun.
I asked if this same level of outrage and demand for ad nauseam investigations existed in those previous attacks. It either did or it did not.
If not, I would like to know why.
why did you claim that there were "diplomatic deaths" when no diplomats died in any of those attacks?
In addition, your entire post is a tu quoque fallacy, a point I have explained several times in this thread.
why did you claim that there were "diplomatic deaths" when no diplomats died in any of those attacks?
In addition, your entire post is a tu quoque fallacy, a point I have explained several times in this thread.
I think the point may have been to ask how Benghazi differs from the political violence that claims US lives no matter who is president. Unless these other attacks were of a fundamentally different quality and were unpreventable, even with the benefit of hindsight, the one in Benghazi doesn't particularly reflect on Obama or his administration.
I will never get what the Benghazi obsession is all about, or what you expect to come of it. Are you thinking this might be good for impeachment or a forced resignation? I doubt it. I think it will be a tiny footnote US history.
I will never get what the Benghazi obsession is all about, or what you expect to come of it. Are you thinking this might be good for impeachment or a forced resignation? I doubt it. I think it will be a tiny footnote US history.