New Disclosures on Benghazi

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But Benghazi!!!! Oh Bummer....

A two-year investigation by the Republican-controlled House Intelligence Committee has found that the CIA and the military acted properly in responding to the 2012 attack on a US diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, and asserted no wrongdoing by Obama administration appointees.

Oh dear, now that the Republicans have come to the conclusion that there was nothing here, what will their radicals use against Hillary now?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/63441001/committe-clears-cia-over-benghazi-attack.html
 
Too bad all the people who foamed at the mouth about Benghazi won't ever read that and will continue calling it a scandal until the end of time.

Just like Ted Cruz and net neutrality, or a good number of republicans and climate change.

Evidence is irrelevant.
 
Just like Ted Cruz and net neutrality, or a good number of republicans and climate change.

Amazing that Alan Dershowitz called him one of the most brilliant students he ever had. Alan Dershowitz is the well known liberal Harvard Law School professor.
 
Amazing that Alan Dershowitz called him one of the most brilliant students he ever had. Alan Dershowitz is the well known liberal Harvard Law School professor.

Smart people can be sleazy or sociopaths or willfully ignorant whenever they darn well please.
 
Wow. But ... Benghazi!!

Here is a report that is just a little more complete. this is typical reporting from Fox News, a big reason why they are the top of news coverage.

Doing my part to keep people FULLY informed.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ouse-probe-benghazi-attack/?intcmp=latestnews
Minoosh wins the Name That Tune contest.

Thanks, logger. I like your idea of "a little more complete". They cite not a single word in the 47 page congressional report, but paraphrase several times and use that solely to repeat "Fox Was the First To Break This"....
And if you read the headline, they're ignoring that the report says that the CIA essentially did what they could have done and would be expected to do, but latch onto "weapons to Syria". This is just Fox attempting to shift to a new and current argument that may have some play in the coming election cycle now that their fevered supporters have gone back to wondering why everyone's going on about Ben Gazzara all the time.
 
Wasn't this the eighth Congressional investigation of Benghazi? And it reached the same conclusion as all the prior ones?

And the next investigation is set for this spring. I wish I were making that up, but I'm not. They're going to investigate it repeatedly until the facts change. Our tax dollars at work!
 
Actually, I take it all back: I looked it up. This was only the seventh investigation.

I'm sure the eighth will yield radical new results!
 
Amazing that Alan Dershowitz called him one of the most brilliant students he ever had. Alan Dershowitz is the well known liberal Harvard Law School professor.

Who also stated (some six months after the paleos' favorite quote) that what he was doing re the ACA, was "deeply unconstitutional" and that since he believes that Cruz is principled, he ought to sit back and ask himself, "What would Alexander Hamilton do?"

Hannibal Lechter was brilliant, too.
 
Actually, I take it all back: I looked it up. This was only the seventh investigation.

I'm sure the eighth will yield radical new results!

The eighth Benghazi investigation is being carried out by a House Select Committee appointed in May.
I've no doubt that they will act like they've never heard about this report.
 
And just in time to help inform the electorate for the mid-term elections.
Nearly.
 
I read the report, which I doubt anybody else here has. As it was produced by the House Intelligence Committee, it focused exclusively on the role of the CIA in the Benghazi attacks. Except for the shoddy process of producing the talking points (in which both the White House and State Department participated), the report exonerates the CIA. It does not exonerate either the State Department, the White House, or the military. In fact, although the appendix produced by the minority (i.e. the Democrats) tries to highlight the muddled and conflicting intelligence at the time of Susan Rice's infamous testimony on Sunday morning new shows, a fair reading of the evidence is that the administration cherry-picked a narrative it felt was least politically damaging out of the confused melange of reports available at the time.

The questions concerning the military's lack of preparedness, the State Department's inadequate planning, the actions and decisions made by the President during the attack, the weird focus on an internet video (as if that was worth mentioning, even if it had been the spark for violence), the subsequent arrest and imprisonment of the video producer, and allegations that State Department whistleblowers were punished, remain unanswered.
 
I read the report, which I doubt anybody else here has. As it was produced by the House Intelligence Committee, it focused exclusively on the role of the CIA in the Benghazi attacks. Except for the shoddy process of producing the talking points (in which both the White House and State Department participated), the report exonerates the CIA. It does not exonerate either the State Department, the White House, or the military. In fact, although the appendix produced by the minority (i.e. the Democrats) tries to highlight the muddled and conflicting intelligence at the time of Susan Rice's infamous testimony on Sunday morning new shows, a fair reading of the evidence is that the administration cherry-picked a narrative it felt was least politically damaging out of the confused melange of reports available at the time.

The questions concerning the military's lack of preparedness, the State Department's inadequate planning, the actions and decisions made by the President during the attack, the weird focus on an internet video (as if that was worth mentioning, even if it had been the spark for violence), the subsequent arrest and imprisonment of the video producer, and allegations that State Department whistleblowers were punished, remain unanswered.

So...what? You need a couple dozen more investigations? Maybe they can find Vince Foster's killer while they are searching.
 
So the government did nothing wrong save the usual mea culpa it could have done more, and afterward some hyperventilating blame-America-first descendants inside and outside government believed a connection with a current event video because they wanted to see it?
 
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So the government did nothing wrong save the usual mea culpa it could have done more, and afterward some hyperventilating blame-America-first descendants inside and outside government believed a connection with a current event video because they wanted to see it?
This bit of rhetoric was once in my repertoire. I sincerely held the idea. Since realizing that much of political rhetoric is simply made up of straw man arguments I've started to look for evidence that such a group of people exist. Turns out yes, they do. They are primarily fringe cooks dismissed by most liberals and moderate democrats. Folks like Ward Churchill. Most folks on the left love America and do not, as a matter of course, "blame America". They simply want the U.S. to live up to its principles and are unwilling to let corruption and bad policy slide for sake of patriotism.

I'm a proud patriot BTW. At numerous times, usually on the 4th of July I've started threads with the title of something like "Why I'm a Patriot".

That said, the people who are in reality blaming America are the ones claiming that America (the Obama Administration) dropped the ball on Benghazi. The video in question wasn't produced or distributed by America.

FWIW: I participate every year in Draw Mohammad day. I also think that the person who made that video had every right to make it and distribute it. However, the right to free speech does not protect one from criticism nor does it mean that those who do criticize others for their speech blame-America for anything.

Finally, the claims made by the right about Benghazi are demonstrably wrong.
 
This bit of rhetoric was once in my repertoire. I sincerely held the idea. Since realizing that much of political rhetoric is simply made up of straw man arguments I've started to look for evidence that such a group of people exist. Turns out yes, they do. They are primarily fringe cooks dismissed by most liberals and moderate democrats. Folks like Ward Churchill. Most folks on the left love America and do not, as a matter of course, "blame America". They simply want the U.S. to live up to its principles and are unwilling to let corruption and bad policy slide for sake of patriotism.

I do not hate America. Just as I do not hate my dog when it poops on the floor. I am upset with my dog, but I am also upset with myself. It is my responsibility to train my dog not to do that. I have failed, and must do better in the future.

I am upset with America, and also myself. It is my responsibility to vote for representative that won't poop on the metaphorical carpet. That's why I started voting in 2012. I was failing in my duty. Now my upset-ness has spread to the so many others who still don't vote.

I do not hate America. I just think it's gotten to the point that it should have its nose dragged through its mess.
 
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