More Truther Legaltainment!

plague311 said:
Once again, I'll put it into a different context so it's a bit easier to understand.

I, personally, do not like Wal-Mart. I prefer to shop locally to help my local economy grow, and encourage small business.

So, since I don't like Wal-Mart...I just don't go. I don't take time out of my day to drive over to Wal-Mart, grab a manager, and a few employees to explain to them why I don't like Wal-Mart. I just...don't...go...to...Wal-Mart.

I hope you're smart enough to catch that, and it goes for anyone else that is taking the time to complain about something so dumb.

The gist of it. Manny didn't have to be a voice of the truth movement. He made the choice to be a figure of the truth movement, and have the attention on him. He then made the decisions that landed him in this situation. Guilty, or not guilty, it's something that he is dealing with. Since this sub-forum is relative to 9/11 truth, which blankets the movement and participating members, then it is perfectly within the standards to be here.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THEN MAKE IT YOUR WAL-MART
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Way too complicated for a twoofer to understand. Try to dumb it down a lot more.
 
You think Manny is in court right now, jumping from point to point about why he's innocent without any real proof?
 
Zeuzzz said:
For legal reasons this thread should technically be closed. We are singling out a single person (heaven knows why*) awaiting charges that are in the hands of a jury that could be heavily influenced by reading peoples opinions published for anyone to see on a public forum here.
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Your understanding of the United States legal system is on par with your understanding of the events of 9/11.
 
Zeuzzz the concern troll is concerned,,,still

Zeuzzz said:
For legal reasons this thread should technically be closed. We are singling out a single person (heaven knows why*) awaiting charges that are in the hands of a jury that could be heavily influenced by reading peoples opinions published for anyone to see on a public forum here. The magnitude of resentment held against people wanting to (re)investigate 9/11 further ["truthers"] on this forum is in no way representative of the general populations attitude, and could influence things it should not.


Why are we singling this guy out again? I'm still confused why we have an entire thread dedicated to a child molestation case in a 9/11 conspiracy theory sub forum.

* Do you know why? If so, reply below.
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January 27, 2011 Urban Word of the Day
A person who posts on a blog thread, in the guise of "concern," to disrupt dialogue or undermine morale by pointing out that posters and/or the site may be getting themselves in trouble, usually with an authority or power. They point out problems that don't really exist. The intent is to derail, stifle, control, the dialogue. It is viewed as insincere and condescending.
A concern troll on a progressive blog might write, "I don't think it's wise to say things like that because you might get in trouble with the government." Or, "This controversy is making your side look disorganized."
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I've decided beyond a doubt that this is nothing more than a conspiracy by the truther brigade to bring them and Manny more attention. Notice how we can't get anything like videos of the trial? Extremely staged, if you ask me. That mugshot? Photo trickery at it's finest. EVERYONE KNOWS the photo background in Florida booking offices is BLUE and not GREY. Richard Gage is also financially benefiting from this, as well.

This is an absolutely despicable way for Manny and the Truth Movement to gain attention.
 
Zeuzzz said:
Are you in correspondence with him? I would like to speak to him if possible on a less public forum than this one having realized no verdict has yet been reached and jumping the gun as I did (as others did too). Still, the premise of this thread + the motivation behind it, and many of the posts by involved members here, remains bizarre to me.

For legal reasons this thread should technically be closed. We are singling out a single person (heaven knows why*) awaiting charges that are in the hands of a jury that could be heavily influenced by reading peoples opinions published for anyone to see on a public forum here. The magnitude of resentment held against people wanting to (re)investigate 9/11 further ["truthers"] on this forum is in no way representative of the general populations attitude, and could influence things it should not.


Why are we singling this guy out again? I'm still confused why we have an entire thread dedicated to a child molestation case in a 9/11 conspiracy theory sub forum.

* Do you know why? If so, reply below.
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Highlight One: It took you THREE MONTHS to realise this? one might almost think you hadn't actually paid attention to what was being discussed.

Highight Two: But you have nevertheless, despite your mental confusion about whatever is going on, been posting for three months about an issue you apparently don't fully understand.

Highlight Three: Please refer to LashL, who am genuine legal expert (kneel bow sacrifice first-born to Canada)

Highlight Four: Your idea of "heavily influenced" and the real-life interpretation are separated by an abyss of Challenger Deep proportions.

Highlight Five: Indisputably true, since the "general population" has no idea that the "9/11 Truth Movement" actually exists.

Highlight Six: Refer to - oh what the heck, go back and read every post on this thread.

Highlight Seven: As the OP put it, and numerous posts since, this is an allegation. Manny Badillo has not yet been convicted, although if he has internet access he must be thinking 'Thanks Zeuzzz, thank you so bloody much for standing up for me!'

Expect this thread to get resurrected in May. By which time MirageMemories will still have managed to avoid replying to LashL (kneel bow - you know the rest)
 
Thanks for the bump - made me check for any new developments and it seems my OP link to the docket is off-line for some reason:

Palm Beach County Court said:
Case ID: 502011CF006039AXXXMB
Docket Start Date:
Docket Ending Date:

No case was found.
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However there is another site for searching their court records:

https://showcase.mypalmbeachclerk.com/showcaseweb/#Home

Login as a public user and searching by name brings up the case.

Also I see that a 2008 misdemeanor case (4) for DUI/reckless driving/possession, etc is under "reopen" status. The ShowCase site seems to have a bit more detailed info than my original link had.

Cheers.
 
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AJM8125 said:
Thanks for the bump - made me check for any new developments and it seems my OP link to the docket is off-line for some reason:



However there is another site for searching their court records:

https://showcase.mypalmbeachclerk.com/showcaseweb/#Home

Login as a public user and searching by name brings up the case.

Also I see that a 2008 misdemeanor case (4) for DUI/reckless driving/possession, etc is under "reopen" status. The ShowCase site seems to have a bit more detailed info than my original link had.

Cheers.
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Cheers, AJM! Took me a while to get the software working, but I got there.

Yep, Manny Badillo's jury trial is still set for 14 May 2012.

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ETA: And here's the situation with the charges:

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I am very curious on how this would be played out in the court trial. Since this guy was the largest outspoken member of the truth movement and zeuzzz thing of this doesn't make a difference and automatically accusing the person of child molestation. Really I was reading this thread and i got to see no defense for Badillo that would at least do something to enhance the discussion, that I would love to see in this thread.
 
Orphia Nay said:
Cheers, AJM! Took me a while to get the software working, but I got there.

Yep, Manny Badillo's jury trial is still set for 14 May 2012.

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ETA: And here's the situation with the charges:

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I can't believe it. While I was reading up on Tony Hall & Josh Blakeney. I just came across Manny. He was just on CHLY conspiracy radio. It's the student radio station of Vancouver Island University, where I was once a student. They run a program by Ray Geisler called Unbought and Unbosses. Ray just interviewed Manny and this was followed up by a discussion about his arrest record. you can listen to the whole show here.

Telephone interview with 9/11 Truth activist Manny Badillo. Starts at 13 minutes, lasts for 38. Manny is a native of and lives in NYC. He is also a 9/11 victim family member, as his Uncle, Thomas Joseph Sgroi was murdered on Sept 11th. Manny is an outspoken advocate for family members, rescue workers, residents and survivors of the crimes of Sept. 11th. He is Outreach Director for NYC CAN, and he has helped raise funds for WTCRescuers.org, FealgoodFoundation.com, AE911Truth.org, as well as many individual first responders and rescue workers in need. Manny has appeared on international TV broadcasts, radio shows, and award-winning documentaries. http://investigatebuilding7.org/
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Ray has also interviewed Josh and Tony and is as deep in the struggle against the New World Order super secret global government as one can be.

Raymond Geisler
this week's edition of the Unbought and Unbossed radio show is archived at http://archive.org/details/UnboughtAndUnbossed257March212012. three great interviews, Manny Badillo- 9/11 victim family member, Kevin Annett- human rights whistle blower, and Paul Stein- truther activist. also, am looking forward to meeting Richard Gage again tomorrow in Victoria, BC.

Unbought and Unbossed #257 March 21, 2012 : Raymond Geisler : Free Download & Streaming : Internet A
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Manny Badillo, Beata Van Berkom, Dallas Hills and 2 others like this.

Jay Scholl I thought Manny Badilo was in jail? Did he get released or what?
http://www.firetown.com/blog/2011/0...io-of-wearechange-is-an-accused-sex-offender/
http://www.firetown.com/blog/2011/07/21/911-victim-family-member-manny-badillio-of-wearechange-is-an
www.firetown.com
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Raymond Geisler news to me
Tuesday at 04:21 · Like

Manny Badillo News to me too. Jay, do you work for firetown?
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Jay Scholl Manny, is that really you? If it's not true, then I owe you an apology. I hope you can accept it. That's a pretty bad thing I said if I got it wrong. Can you straighten me out on this?
Tuesday at 16:42 · Like

Manny Badillo Jay, that's just a portion of what I've had to deal with since speaking out years ago ... no need to straighten out - your apology is accepted. I just was curious if you worked for or new anything about firetown.
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Jay Scholl Thanks Manny. I don't mean any disrespect. No, I don't work for anyone. I know a lot of people from WAC in NY. Just from FB but I used to talk with them a lot. I saw a link that claimed to be to an arrest record and a mug shot. I just want to clear this up so if anyone asks me about it I know what to tell them. A lot of those guys are still saying stuff. What's up with this crap?
Tuesday at 20:49 · Like

Manny Badillo Immaturity on top of suspect behaviors I guess. Could you message me any links that show some of their more recent shenanigans? I would be more than appreciative. Thank you in advance kind sir.
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Jay Scholl Thanks again. I'm trying to, but FB has blocked me from messaging and getting new contacts. If you friend me, that might be better.
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Jay Scholl I just want to say that I know what you mean. Those guys talk **** about everybody. They talk **** about their each other and then call each other their friends. They're a little to deal with, even you don't have much to do with them.
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Maybe someone wants to tell Ray he's been lied to...maybe e-mail him Manny's arrest record. He's pretty easy to find. He runs the broadcast and his Facebook very openly. A friend of mine has actually met with him about his show.
 
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I can't find a comment link for Geisler anywhere. I'd just email him a link to Orphia Nay's post above. The persistence and prevalence of Canadian truthers still puzzles me.
 
You can think of Canada as part of the American cultural hinterland. American things have status value. Geisler and all these other Canadian names that keep coming up think of themselves as anti-American leftist. Josh Blakeney publishes his writings with a Holocaust denial venue and Iranian state TV and aligns himself with people in the American Patriot Movement but states on his FB that he's a classical Marxist.

It's just a lot of superstitious kind of belief. You can think of these guys as cargo cult Americans.

If you hear anything back from Ray, post it up here.
 
carlitos said:
I'll do my best.

Oh God, he did a show (shows?) on gang-stalking.

http://osnanaimo.org/

http://targetedindividualscanada.wordpress.com/oseh-cases/

I'm not sure I want to email someone that paranoid with my own info. I'll see if I can find a way to comment somewhere anonymously. The youtube channel took my comment but deleted the link.
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I listened to the whole show.

Ray: Can you pin point when you think this happened?
Carmen: Yes, I can. The week I think this happened, my daughter was away at camp. I have…it takes a few days to do and is easily done in day surgery. It’s easily slid underneath your scalp. So all they…create an incision and slid it underneath your scalp…they seal it with a glue, a surgical glue.
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Ray: Well sadly, it does sound like it’s a large web of conspiracy. Personally, I think that’s the way the world works. I don’t think decisions are made out in the open. That the big decisions are made in secret and we get a real watered version of it on the nightly news.
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David: you can actually collect people’s emotions on a computer and send them back to people
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One of his other 'guests' has photos in her FB of cars and the houses of people who are following her. I'm from the same town as these guys. It scares me to think there are people like this around.
 
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IdiotWhacker said:
I am very curious on how this would be played out in the court trial.
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It will be played out exactly the same as every other court case involving child moestation charges.

Why are you curious?

Since this guy was the largest outspoken member of the truth movement
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Really?

Really I was reading this thread and i got to see no defense for Badillo that would at least do something to enhance the discussion, that I would love to see in this thread.
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Rubbish.

If he posts here (depending on what he says, doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the box) hes just reinforcing the latent inferences this thread is creating.

If he did post here, it would not belong in this subforum and should be moved elsewhere, as this thread has basicaly nothing to do with 9/11.

I could start a similar thread to this in the religion section about the individual case details of a local vicar I knew whos facing paedophilia charges.
Or as he owned a small business maybe an anti capitalist themed thread in the business section.
I think he beleived in homeopathy too so could even start a thread in the science section about what sort of people believe in homeopathy.
 
Zeuzzz said:
Rubbish.

If he posts here (depending on what he says, doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the box) hes just reinforcing the latent inferences this thread is creating.

If he did post here, it would not belong in this subforum and should be moved elsewhere, as this thread has basicaly nothing to do with 9/11.

I could start a similar thread to this in the religion section about the individual case details of a local vicar I knew whos facing paedophilia charges.
Or as he owned a small business maybe an anti capitalist themed thread in the business section.
I think he beleived in homeopathy too so could even start a thread in the science section about what sort of people believe in homeopathy.
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Some good ideas, sounds like you have your work cut out for you. Better get on that, no sense in hanging around here whining about something you can't control or change.

Link your other threads here, maybe some might be interested. As much as you dislike it the fact that the thread is here has been explained to you many times. You just either don't want to accept it or have issues with reading comprehension, possibly both.

Have you taken the initiative to follow up with Manny about your deep seated concern for him? Have you sent him any messages on Facebook, or via email? Have you done ANYTHING at all to resolve this issue outside of coming here randomly and make posts about how bad this thread is?

I'll be patiently awaiting your response.
 
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I'd really like it if we can get Manny's take on the whole thing. I bet if you wrote to Ray Geisler about this, he'd get your message to Manny.

I just checked Ray's FB page. You have to be his friend to post on his wall.

You can leave comments on the show's entry in his archives
http://unbossed.livejournal.com/58789.html
I don't have a Live Journal account and he won't let people post anonymously. I'll keep looking for way I can let him know about this.
 
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