Moon Hoax conspiracy

[kookbreaker]

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So where is the air-conditioner on the Lunar Lander ERich?

Its very arrogant to claim and undeserved victory.

Besides, we know you are clicking the "View Post" button every time. How ya doin'?

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Would any of you walk on the light side of the moon in a suit without air conditioning?

Depends... what is the suits albedo level?

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Would any of you walk on the light side of the moon in a suit without air conditioning?

No, and neither did the Apollo astronauts

Lunar crews wore suits with a total of 21 layers, including the five-layer pressure suit assembly, a three-layer Liquid Cooling and Ventilation Garment or "union suit" with plastic tubing which circulated water to cool the astronaut down, minimizing sweating and fogging of the suit helmet, and a Thermal Micrometeoroid Garment, which insulated the suit and protected the astronaut from harmful solar radiation and micrometeoroids which could puncture the suit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo/Skylab_A7L

 

[Loss Leader]

Here's more information on the Apollo's guidance computer than you actually deserve, ER: http://www.ibiblio.org/apollo/index.html

The question I have is this: If the Apollo landings were a hoax, why did NASA commision and pay for a guidance computer that worked? I mean, if the whole thing were a hoax, the plans for the guidance computer would make no sense or would be classified or would have been long buried. Instead, the plans are widely available, a regular desktop can be made to act like the guidance computer and the thing actually functions.

Please bear in mind the new guidelines for the CT forum. Be civil and polite.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: chillzero

 

[kookbreaker]

However, the Apollo ships were not in deep, dark space. They were being shined on by the Sun. I don't know for sure, but it wouldn't surprise me to find out that the color and shinyness of the capsule were chosen so that the solar heat, body heat, and electronics heat generated, balance with the heat lost through radiation. On the other hand, maybe there was a net heat gain from the first three, so they painted the command module white and still had to get rid of some heat.

Of interest is the Gold Foil you see on the Lunar Module. Gold is a very, very, very good reflector of the Infrared portion of the spectrum. It can reach 99% efficiency at certain wavelengths.

 

[ConspiRaider]

However, the Apollo ships were not in deep, dark space. They were being shined on by the Sun. I don't know for sure, but it wouldn't surprise me to find out that the color and shinyness of the capsule were chosen so that the solar heat, body heat, and electronics heat generated, balance with the heat lost through radiation. On the other hand, maybe there was a net heat gain from the first three, so they painted the command module white and still had to get rid of some heat.

Also: The spacecraft going to the Moon were spun, slowly and continually, to assist in equalizing the temperature. That way, the Sun's rays were not being constantly focused on any one particular area of the spacecraft's skin.

This is called: Passive thermal control roll.

 

[TellyKNeasuss]

In 1969 computer chips had not been invented. The maximum computer memory was 256k, and this was housed in a large air conditioned building. In 2002 a top of the range computer requires at least 64 Mb of memory to run a simulated Moon landing, and that does not include the memory required to take off again once landed. The alleged computer on board Apollo 11 had 32k of memory. That's the equivalent of a simple calculator.

And the guys who designed and built functioning nuclear bombs in the early 1940's had how much computing power?

 

[TraitorBasher]

The light side of the moon? There is no light side of the moon. I think an elementary school astronomy class would do you a lot of good.

This composite image of the Moon's dark and light sides suggests that the Sun isn't the only light source illuminating our closest neighbor. Researchers placed a blocking filter over the brightly lit quarter Moon to reveal the ghostly glow of the dark side, also known as Earthshine. The light side's Moonshine glows typically about 10,000 times brighter than the Earthshine. NASA funded researchers now look to the dark side of the Moon to study global climate change by measuring the result of Earth's reflectance on it, or what they call Earthshine.

I think you need the astronomy class.

 

[apathoid]

So... About them there Van Allen Belts...

He has to get through all the other nonsense claims first before he starts recycling. We still need to hear about the waving flag, anomalous shadows, lack of a blast crater, and the lack of stars in all the shots before he starts repeating his nonsense..

 

[TellyKNeasuss]

I didn't say it was. My point is that there were none of these fatal malfunctions 30 years earlier during 6 missions with less sophisticated equipment travelling a thousand times further.

Do the names Roger Chaffee, Gus Grissom, and Ed White mean anything to you?

 

[Yllanes]

What temperature would the thermometer show?

Temperature does not equal heat capacity. You may be surprised to know that the temperature inside fluorescent lamps is of thousands of degrees, yet they don't melt. Cigarette ash may fall on your hand and not burn you, even though it is very hot, because it is a very small amount.

In the same way, the interplanetary medium is a plasma with a temperature of maybe 100 000 K but, at only 5 particles / cm³, its heat capacity is completely negligible. There simply aren't enough particles to heat anything.

A more commonly quoted temperature for outer space is 3 K. This is the temperature of a black body whose spectrum would coincide with that of the microwave background. There are other concepts of temperature, but one mus t be careful when employing them.

A body in outer space wouldn't lose almost any heat by conduction (we have seen there are not enough particles there) and would only slowly radiate. Notice the word slowly. Even if the termometer were somehow able to register accurately temperatures down to 3 K, it wouldn't until quite a long time.

 

[kookbreaker]

I think you need the astronomy class.

Not with that quote, he doesn't.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

In 1969 computer chips had not been invented. The maximum computer memory was 256k, and this was housed in a large air conditioned building. In 2002 a top of the range computer requires at least 64 Mb of memory to run a simulated Moon landing, and that does not include the memory required to take off again once landed. The alleged computer on board Apollo 11 had 32k of memory. That's the equivalent of a simple calculator.

Computers in 1969 weren't required to run Windows™.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

He has to get through all the other nonsense claims first before he starts recycling. We still need to hear about the waving flag, anomalous shadows, lack of a blast crater, and the lack of stars in all the shots before he starts repeating his nonsense..

dont forget no exhaust plume when they lifted off, crosshairs behind scenery, same hill 5 miles away from itself, "perfectly" framed shots with camera attached to chest

oh yeah, and the C rock (AKA, the crock)

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Temperature does not equal heat capacity. You may be surprised to know that the temperature inside fluorescent lamps is of thousands of degrees, yet they don't melt. Cigarette ash may fall on your hand and not burn you, even though it is very hot, because it is a very small amount.

In the same way, the interplanetary medium is a plasma with a temperature of maybe 100 000 K but, at only 5 particles / cm³, its heat capacity is completely negligible. There simply aren't enough particles to heat anything.

A more commonly quoted temperature for outer space is 3 K. This is the temperature of a black body whose spectrum would coincide with that of the microwave background. There are other concepts of temperature, but one mus t be careful when employing them.

A body in outer space wouldn't lose almost any heat by conduction (we have seen there are not enough particles there) and would only slowly radiate. Notice the word slowly.

Question:
Does the above mean that sci-fi and space-horror movies showing dead people in space all frosty is bunk?

 

[Spindrift]

He has to get through all the other nonsense claims first before he starts recycling. We still need to hear about the waving flag, anomalous shadows, lack of a blast crater, and the lack of stars in all the shots before he starts repeating his nonsense..

And don't forget the letter 'C' on that photo.

 

[qarnos]

ERichardson-

What computational tasks were required for going to the moon?

Off the top of my head...

F=Ma (for thrust)

F=G(m₁+m₂)/r² (for gravity)

Yep, better get those P4's ready.

 

[TraitorBasher]

dont forget no exhaust plume when they lifted off, crosshairs behind scenery, same hill 5 miles away from itself, "perfectly" framed shots with camera attached to chest

oh yeah, and the C rock (AKA, the crock)

Yes those are strange, could I see your refutation of all those things?

 

[kookbreaker]

Question:
Does the above mean that sci-fi and space-horror movies showing dead people in space all frosty is bunk?

Well, frost implies frozed water. So I guess the issue is if they are exposed to vacuum will the water evaporate from lack of pressure before it loses temperature from radiating.

I don't think the radiating is all that slow. But I think Ylannes point is that its not like tossing someone in the freezer.

How did Apollo 13 lose heat on the return journey? I can only surmise it was from radiating it.

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Yes those are strange, could I see your refutation of all those things?

How about if we come to an agreement on the Van Allen Belt first, then move on to the next point of discussion?