They do mostly have those quaint good-for any excuse ways about them!!!!
-
Security incident: ISF was recently accessed by intruders. Please change your password, and change it anywhere else you used it. Read more
Mass shooting in small town Texas
- Thread starter cullennz
- Start date
They do mostly have those quaint good-for any excuse ways about them!!!!
I miss the days when you could buy an anti-tank rifle from Sears for $199.00.
Of course the cartridges were $10.00 or (afai-recall) 12 for $100.00!!!! I was 15 or 16 at the time.
NoahFence
Banned
Then the blood of these victims are on their hands.
The NRA is not simply some monolithic ogre intent on opposing something that makes very little sense. It is composed of mostly ordinary Americans who want to preserve a basic right written into the Constitution. Not all members agree with some of their positions, but most do.
That would have done NOTHING to prevent the Sandy Hook Massacre anyway.
Closing the myth of a gun show loophole is simply more BS coming from those who want "reasonable gun control". Reasonable to whom?
ALL sales by a gun dealer anywhere requires an NICS background check period. However, a PRIVATE transaction does not in all states. Tell me how you suppose the ATFE or any other Govt agency is going to control that? Good luck.
The ATFE only prosecutes a very small percentage of attempted illegal purchases by prohibited persons now, yet you expect them to even monitor or prosecute someone selling a possession privately at a gun show or elsewhere (for that matter). You want it, you pay for it!
The culprit in the mass shooting near San Antonio reputedly got a Bad Conduct Discharge (BCD) at Holloman AFB in 2012 for DOMESTIC VIOLENCE against his wife and child. He served a 12 sentence in the pokey for that and should have been a prohibited person. We don't yet know how he acquired the weapon. If he got it at a gun show, let me know.
Now, if you want to stop the vast majority of illegal guns instead of punishing legitimate and responsible gun owners, stop straw purchases. Since the ATFE can't do it, maybe you ought to tell us how you expect the same agency to stop private firearms sales at gun shows or elsewhere. Maybe, just maybe it's not the problem slobbering mouth breathing politicians and their supporters think it is....
Last edited:
sir drinks-a-lot
Philosopher
QFT
arthwollipot
Limerick Purist Pronouns: He/Him
That is a terrifying situation. Why do you put up with it?
Can you explain why it's terrifying?
Where do explosives come from in your country anyway? Someone has to mine the earth, build roads and make signaling devices. No explosives fairy here to do it for us.
Over here we have laws and regulations which restrict who can possess and make explosives.
https://www.atf.gov/explosives/docs...ves-laws-and-regulations-atf-p-54007/download
Here are the forms a person fills out; https://www.atf.gov/explosives/explosives-forms?og_group_ref_target_id=196 The applicant gets their explosives on demand as long as the forms are filled out correctly and the fee is paid.
Yeah yeah, you're going to go on and on about how you meant possession of bombs without a license. But I was attacking Hercules56's argument.
Last edited:
BStrong
Penultimate Amazing
Considering you're on the other side of an ocean, you must be easily terrified.
What RanB referenced is the fact that under federal law, but not under the laws of all 50 states, an individual if licensed by the feds can legally manufacture any destructive device their finances allow short of WMD.
There has never been an instance of a licensed individual committing a criminal act with a lawfully possessed destructive device, but there has been at least one non-fatal accident:
http://www.nytimes.com/1986/08/20/u...om-antitank-gun-injures-3-at-gas-station.html
thaiboxerken
Penultimate Amazing
- Joined
- Sep 17, 2001
- Messages
- 35,109
None of this would happen in an open-carry state....
BStrong
Penultimate Amazing
Is that like all Japanese are responsible for atrocities committed by the Imperial Japanese army in China?
arthwollipot
Limerick Purist Pronouns: He/Him
Your explanation has reduced my terror somewhat. It looked from your argument that you were implying that ordinary private citizens were permitted to construct and use explosives - that there was a reasonable expectation that the person next door could be manufacturing explosives in their garage, the way there is a reasonable expectation (in America) that the person next door has a gun.
Thanks for clarifying.
BStrong
Penultimate Amazing
No state that I'm aware of allows unrestricted manufacture and possession of primary or secondary high explosives, or even low order (blackpowder, flash powder, etc)
The binary types like those cited by RanB are impact sensitive and don't fall into either restricted category so are legal for civilian possession, but not here in California.
Sorry mate. My fault
Thought for some stupid reason (me being an idiot and half reading) you were including guns
Sent from my SM-J500Y using Tapatalk
They are. Ordinary Americans like myself have always been allowed to do so; with the correct paperwork. Just like we are allowed to drive a car on public roads, with the correct license.
I manufacture (I'm a maker, there is a difference) firearms in my garage. It is normal here.
Last edited:
I was referring to restricted explosives, not binaries like Tannerite. I would simply use the Application for Explosives Permit here; https://www.atf.gov/explosives/docs...es-license-or-permit-atf-form-540013/download
It's similar to but more lengthy than the form I use to make and register silencers. The fees can be lower though. If my info is wrong, please let me know. I've never actually applied to make explosives before.
thaiboxerken
Penultimate Amazing
- Joined
- Sep 17, 2001
- Messages
- 35,109
As a whole, yes, the WWII Japanese were responsible. They agree, and felt so responsible that they changed their Constitution to reflect it.
arthwollipot
Limerick Purist Pronouns: He/Him
I find that, while not necessarily terrifying, then at least worrying. I don't want to live next door to a person who's manufacturing explosives. I'd like that to be done on dedicated hardened premises that are a long way from population centres.
Remember the risk formula: possibility of something happening times the consequences of something happening. The chance of something going wrong with explosives manufacture may be small, but the consequences of a bomb going off in my next-door neighbour's garage is extremely worrying.
Yes, which is why I found it totally believable that people in America might be making explosives in their garages.
Again, this is the kind of thing (firearm manufacture) that I would prefer not go on in heavily-populated areas.