Loose Change - Part III

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I'll be sending a letter to the editor of Vanity Fair with some criticisms, and a proposition to do a story about the truth behind the "Truth Movement" for their September issue.

I'm doing an interview next week with a guy who's making a documentary about 9/11 conspiracy theorists. He'll be talking to the head Loosers also.

A local college professor is trying to set up a forum discussion/debate between me and the LC crew for September, but I don't think there's any way they'd go for it. C'mon, Avery, what are you afraid of?

Tomorrow I'll be out at Ground Zero, giving some zeros a bit of grounding.

Three days in a row, I've received "end time" emails. Here's an excerpt from a long email sent by a guy who didn't like the fact that I wrote my LC Viewer Guide, although he hasn't read it. What's going on out there?

May you be found to be sincere and truly interested in finding truth, if not, I leave this as a testimony against you: know that I know there is a God of Heaven who loves his Children, and he will only tolerate so much of the innocence of the rising generation to be squandered, only so much of freedom to be destroyed, only so much of innocent blood spilt which cries from the ground for vengeance upon the heads of those secret works of darkenss which has spilt that blood before his divinity must answer with severe judgements. May you be on the right side in the days and years ahead, and to be on the right side is to be on the side of truth, if not, be prepared to watch your civilization wrecked to pieces, you will know weeping, mourning, lamentation, burning, and sorrow that only God in righteous judgement can turn out upon the wicked who uphold corruption, who love lies, who support and build up secret works of darkness and murder, evil works which will all be destroyed in due time.
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Okey dokey.
 
Brainster said:
So we have the pods which are hot for a year or two, then we have the no-plane at the Pentagon, and now we're getting no planes anywhere. What's next--the no buildings theory?
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The next hip thing could be the "no-conspiracy theory". There's an angle they have yet to consider.
 
Could someone please remind the black hole of stupid (aka "JohndoeX") in this thread at the LC looney bin:

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=7693

...that less than an hour after those engine parts landed in the street, everything got covered by a good 4 inches of dust, much of wich was turned to sludges from firemans hoses thus covering up any damage to the road and sidewalk surface?

NO deductive reasoning ability at all from these people. :p
 
Tomorrow I'll be out at Ground Zero, giving some zeros a bit of grounding.
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Good luck. Have fun. Make lots of noise. What tends to happen for me (all of three times I've been down there) is that after a while I get cornered by two to five of them. That's fine, but those that aren't decided, or are also unhappy by them, tend not to hear my information because I'm stuck talking to these few people.

Raise your voice. You know you've got great stuff, let everyone hear it.
 
Figuratively speaking of course... It is a memorial and a graveyard.
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Absolutely true. I didn't mean to be disrespectful and apologize if it sounded that way.

I meant, um, reverant fun. But believe me, these CTers are loud. And sing the worst folk songs.
 
Arkan_Wolfshade said:
0.7 miles driven, according to google maps:
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The guy originally intended it "as-the-plane-flies." He estimated it's speed at 3600 mph based on the 3 mile figure. But when I pointed out the correct distance, he admitted his mistake. (Since the true distance is less than 1/6th of 3 miles, the actual speed should be less than 1/6th his estimate of 3600 mph. Or less than 600 mph, a reasonable speed for a jet at full throttle.)

Steve S.
 
They haven't heard my repertoire of CT Shanties!
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Oohhhhh, the government isn't to blame.
CTers are lame, for the following 281 reasooons.
Everybody now!


Also, they sometimes show up late. Last week I went down at 12:15 and the little poops didn't show up until after one.
 
Gravy said:
I've received "end time" emails. Here's an excerpt from a long email sent by a guy who didn't like the fact that I wrote my LC Viewer Guide, although he hasn't read it. What's going on out there?
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Assuming he's a christian, you'd think he'd be eager to blame the muslims for the attacks, rather than god-fearing GWB.

Steve S.
 
Abbyas said:
Oohhhhh, the government isn't to blame.
CTers are lame, for the following 281 reasooons.
Everybody now!


Also, they sometimes show up late. Last week I went down at 12:15 and the little poops didn't show up until after one.
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Ohhh,

What shall we do with the "loose change" makers
What shall we do with the "loose change" makers
What shall we do with the "loose change" makers
Early in the morning

rip their myths to peices, with facts and logic
rip their myths to peices, with facts and logic
rip their myths to peices, with facts and logic
early in the morning



:p
 
Abbyas said:
Also, they sometimes show up late. Last week I went down at 12:15 and the little poops didn't show up until after one.
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Maybe because they operate at the "speed of gravity".

While "It is a memorial and a graveyard" it is also a construction site, and sadly since late Nov. of 2001, a tourist gawking point. I was repulsed and disgusted when the City built a "viewing ramp" on Fulton Street, so the goobers could gawk, and go see what wasn't there.
 
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Maybe because they operate at the "speed of gravity".

While "It is a memorial and a graveyard" it is also a construction site, and sadly since late Nov. of 2001, a tourist gawking point. I was repulsed and disgusted when the City built a "viewing ramp" on Fulton Street, so the goobers could gawk, and go see what wasn't there.
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I respect your feelings about Ground Zero gawkers, but I don't feel the same way. The World Trade Center site is one of the most important places in history, and people are understandably curious about it. I'm in the tourism business, and in my experience Ground Zero is by far the most important thing that people new to New York want to see. I can't speak for all of them, but many people tell me that it's important for them to make some sort of physical connection to the events of 9/11. Also, most of them don't know about the memorial exhibit at St. Paul's across the street, and that's always a powerful experience.

That said, I've decided not to go there today, but to stay in and work on other 9/11 stuff. Projects are piling up! I do think it's important, as a matter of principle, to counter the ignorance being dished out at Ground Zero, but I don't think they're gaining a lot of converts there.

If anyone is interested in picking up some anti-CT "shifts" at G.Z. on occasional Saturdays, let me know. My technique is to simply hand my flyer with to anyone the Troofers talk to. The flyer basically states that everything these people are saying is false, and gives links to the facts of the matter. It takes very little effort to do, and the CTs find it absolutely exasperating, because they've just wasted 10 seconds or five minutes or ten minutes trying to convince people that they stand for the troof.
 
I'm done over at the Loose Change Message Board.

It's full of mentally ill people who I want to punch in the face repeatedly.
 
Gravy said:
I respect your feelings about Ground Zero gawkers, but I don't feel the same way. The World Trade Center site is one of the most important places in history, and people are understandably curious about it. I'm in the tourism business, and in my experience Ground Zero is by far the most important thing that people new to New York want to see. I can't speak for all of them, but many people tell me that it's important for them to make some sort of physical connection to the events of 9/11. Also, most of them don't know about the memorial exhibit at St. Paul's across the street, and that's always a powerful experience.
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Let me clarify - I'm ok with it now - but that viewing ramp was the wrong thing at that time. You'll appreciate this as a tourguide - I would point to it, (from inside St. Paul's) and say it was appropriate, because just across the street (Ann St.) was where Barnum's American Museum once stood.

That and the fence at St. Paul's went from a reverent heartfelt memorial, to "I went to Ground Zero and left my basketball there as a memorial" silliness.

I heard CT stories there, not from day one, but from day 5. I heard about how Guiliani had thousands of homeless people killed at the WTC and no one would ever know the number, I heard about finding pockets of people alive who were spirited away to raise the body count.

I will continue to be a thorn in the side of every CT'er, because the last thing I ever want to live to see, is the capture of a genuine WTC conspirator, followed by a trial where his defense introduce CT tripe in an attempt to get him off.

One ct'er (or a weak minded individual who has heard this stuff) on the jury, and he gets away.
 
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