Loose Change - Part III

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dubfan said:
And once again we see that the cult of Dylan Avery's celebrity is louder than any attempt to put any of the substance of the conspiracy theory in front a community of structural engineers or 757 pilots.

Hey Dylan! How's that presentation to the ASCE coming along?
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Fear not!

The higher Master Dylan's profile the harder he'll be smacked down and the further he'll fall. If he is loath now to seek out a friendly structural engineer, perhaps soon enough a Vanity Fair subscribing structural engineer may decide to seek him out?? Maybe even a bunch of them?

Were I Dylan I'd be quite fearful that my burgeoning fame could just as easily turn to infamy.

-z
 
scissorhands said:
Does anyone have a current email address that Dylan uses regularly?
Having seen his heartfelt post on his blog concerning the 7/7 attacks in London I would like to send a message to him.
Obviously it would be in the best possible taste.
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I don't even want to know what he said, I'm afraid my blood pressure will go off the roof (and I'm only 28).
 
The last page of the article calls out a quote from his frakking MySpace page.

Since when does that site lend credit to anything?!? It's like footnoting a reststop men's room on I-45.
 
From the article:

"and now Avery, a South Park -watching video game-writing, self described 'nerd'

He thinks this is complementary.

Vanity fair has put the Chertoff allegation in there without checking it. "Benjamin Chertoff is a cousin. . . could not be reached for comment."

Oh! The opportunities!

Vanity Fair reporter takes dictation! Does not check facts! Whhhheeeeee!


And wait until the South Park producers get a wiff of blood in the water!
 
Its not what he said, its what he didnt say and the pile of garbage of a video that he then linked to.
His lack of respect for the dead and the families involved, seems to have no bounds.
But then I suppose I knew that anyway.
 
scissorhands said:
Its not what he said, its what he didnt say and the pile of garbage of a video that he then linked to.
His lack of respect for the dead and the families involved, seems to have no bounds.
But then I suppose I knew that anyway.
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Being drunk with power will give you quite a hangover when you are brought to sobriety by responsibility.

Ol' Dylan asks on his website if anyone has any thoughts about why his video is off Google.

Psssst Dylan, that's the first sign that they have been told that they are distributing copyrighted material. The kind of material you don't own.

You want to know the second sign?


Bwaaaahaaaahaaahaa!
 
60hzxtl said:
Vanity fair has put the Chertoff allegation in there without checking it. "Benjamin Chertoff is a cousin. . . could not be reached for comment."

Oh! The opportunities!

Vanity Fair reporter takes dictation! Does not check facts! Whhhheeeeee!
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Within hours every CT site will be claiming that Vanity Fair has corroborated Ben Chertoff/Michael Chertoff are cousins "fact".
And wait until the South Park producers get a wiff of blood in the water!
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This is exactly the kind of thing they love to skewer, oh man wouldn't it be great to see a SP episode tearing Dylan a new sphincter... :D
 
WildCat said:
Subpoena?
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At least another "cease and desist" like they got from the Naudet's lawyers.

Funny how that thread of the Troooth is gone.

Funny how the Gypsy smutty pictures thread at the toooothers is gone.

Funny place the Looser's forum.

Funny ideas about the truth.
 
rikzilla said:
In my own experience of "Mormon culture" I'd have to say I'm not surprised that being a part of this cult may have initially attracted Jones to identify with the CT cult.

I'm very sorry SOT if I offend you by refering to the Mormons as a cult but it is above all an accurate description. You, OTOH, I find to be a rational and intelligent person.

Cults have been interpreting an "end time prophecy" of some sort for the last 2,000 years if not longer. Other than the fact that I'm sure there will actually be an "end time" for the human race; the "prophecies" continue to bloom and fade like weeds without ever coming close to being true.

Anyway, sorry for the derail...but to me myths are myths...CT or religion...it's all the same to me.

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I disagree vehemently with the description of mormonism as a cult and would appreciate it if you did not describe it as such.

I know of very few "cults" that endow major universities (where at least the structural engineering professors and most of the physics professors are sane) or produce Presidential cabinet members and National Security Advisors (Brent Sowcroft, Bush 41) or general officers with access to nuclear weapons (General Robert C. Oaks USAF, General Bruce Carlson USAF).

There are as many rational and intelligent people as well as silly, frooty and outright lunatics among us as you'll find in any other faith.

Aside from all this, it has been my experience that most of the "cult checklists" you'll find floating around the web can be bent and twisted to fit any major religion.

EDIT: None of this is to say that people who are naturally prone to cult manipulation can't find thier way into our (or any other faith) and follow it as though they had been sucked into a cult. But I believe that professor Jones behavior condemns only himself. Not the rest of us.

"There is no cause so noble that it will not attract its share of fuggheads. And invariably, it's the fuggheads that get most of the publicity."
-Larry Niven
 
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Sword_Of_Truth said:
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Aside from all this, it has been my experience that most of the "cult checklists" you'll find floating around the web can be bent and twisted to fit any major religion.
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Knowing rickzilla for as long as I have around here, I suspect he'd call most organized religions a cult (correct me if I'm wrong rik).

I was brought up in the Roman Catholic "cult", if it makes you feel any better, SOT. I don't think rik was singling out Mormons.
 
DavidJames said:
My new favorite thread at loose bowels.

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=7287

Clearly the amateur videos of the 2nd plane hitting the tower are faked :D
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Oh good god.

Hmmm well this is easy enough:

The distance between Battery Park and Ground Zero is ~3 miles. The plane is seen for ~3 seconds.

A mile per second = 3600mph. Even if you figure it only travelled half that distance, it still works out to 1800mph or mach 2.5.



Maybe the planes are flying too fast?

Damn.....
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I've never been to NYC in my life but I know for a fact that Battery Park is well under 3 miles from the WTC.
It seems a complete lack of how perspective works is innate for every no planer. My head is going through my keyboard if I read another second of that thread.
 
Try growing up as an altar boy and then finding out that 2 priests in a row were pedophiles later charged with touching children. Apparently I wasn't pretty enough for a priest. :(

Back on topic though, the guy who threatened Roxdog, is that Sentinel? Or some other insane angry person who wound up in their movie?
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
I disagree vehemently with the description of mormonism as a cult and would appreciate it if you did not describe it as such....
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One of my best friends in high school was a Morman. To this day he's one of the most sincere and caring people I've ever known. While I certainly wouldn't classify the Morman faith as a cult, I can see why other's may have that opinion due to the many fringe movements that could only be discribed as cults. They give the LDS a bad name.
 
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bob_kark said:
I can see why other's may have that opinion due to the many fringe movements that could only be discribed as cults. They give the LDS a bad name.
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Fringe nuts will do that to any religion.

Unless fringe nuttism IS the religion (like the loose change crowd). ;)
 
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