Loose Change - Part III

[Hutch]

OK, back to Loose Change....

I thought I had heard about everything, but this one is a new take on it...

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=8868

It appears that the Minnesota National Guard and Andrews AFB were in on the plot..or maybe they picked up the airplane parts on the cheap in the Carribbean...

Is there no end? I will wait a day before replying because if I did so now..

 

[T.A.M.]

Fetzers top 10

MarkyX;

I can't post links yet, but here is one that is very annoying of Fetzer giving his top ten why the phone calls are fake...I think you would have fun killing it.

youtube.com/watch?v=9fbP1lvmBY8

(insert the http and www)

 

[Belz...]

Well, others have whacked you around a bit, let me add a couple of facts to the mix.

Germany invaded 10 May 1941 and France surrendered on 25 June 1941--about seven weeks, not two.

Nearly 90,000 French troops died in those 46 days, and 220,000 were wounded. So someone was doing some fighting...

Over 20,000 French soldiers died in Nazi prison camps.

So I would cut them a bit of slack, I think, SOT.

stats are from answers.com

Also, I do believe the resistance had some role to play, later on.

 

[T.A.M.]

Ok, I hate to post a pointless message, but I am getting annoyed with not being able to post links, and I think I can after 15 messages, so here is #15

 

[Hawk one]

Point taken.

I stand humbled and corrected.

I'm also noticing this post, and will as a result lay off any more snide comments in return. OK?

 

[Hawk one]

And T.A.M., you still have more content in that 15th post than the entire Loose Change video...

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Point taken.

I stand humbled and corrected.

Sincere appreciation for your post.

 

[chipmunk stew]

The British 9/11 Truth Campaign's "Critic's Corner", I'm reluctant to admit, appears to be a pretty effective compromise. The level of debate has taken a much more sober tone (for the most part.) The real zealots tend to avoid it. The mod who created it ("ian neal") is very level-headed and protective of the subforum as an experiment.

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewforum.php?f=24&sid=cb757329983b9fa75a8fd29f15fa5f80

 

[Hutch]

Point taken.

I stand humbled and corrected.

You'll never last long on the Politics Forum with that attitude, kid...

Seriously, hope you don't feel like we were 'dogpiling' you there, SOT, I guess in dealing daily with Muttons and Sir Phillips and some of the other CT'ers (not too mention reading LC) we just have gotten a bit sensitive to claims these days...

In case there is any doubt, you have my utmost respect. And I think that goes for the rest of the gang here.

 

[MarkyX]

MarkyX;

I can't post links yet, but here is one that is very annoying of Fetzer giving his top ten why the phone calls are fake...I think you would have fun killing it.

youtube.com/watch?v=9fbP1lvmBY8

(insert the http and www)

Thanks.

Anyone got some good VISUAL evidence I can use to debunk all ten points?

 

[kevin]

More info on Dr. Wood. Got her bachelor, masters and doctorate at virginia tech, although specialization is not listed.

http://www.ces.clemson.edu/me/mefaculty/Wood.html
http://www.ces.clemson.edu/me/mefaculty/pdfs/Wood1.pdf

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

You'll never last long on the Politics Forum with that attitude, kid...

Seriously, hope you don't feel like we were 'dogpiling' you there, SOT, I guess in dealing daily with Muttons and Sir Phillips and some of the other CT'ers (not too mention reading LC) we just have gotten a bit sensitive to claims these days...

In case there is any doubt, you have my utmost respect. And I think that goes for the rest of the gang here.

I'm not too worried.

I think the responses to my last post show that around here you can get more respect by admitting when you're wrong than with all the fake PhD's held by the associate members of "Scholars for Truth".

Thanks, guys.

 

[T.A.M.]

Top 10 reasons hijackers were fake

MarkyX;

gotta get Paul Scheaffer in their.

Gotta get some TUMS in there. Fetzer belches or grimaces from reflux about every 30 seconds in the video.

 

[T.A.M.]

If your gonna debunk his top 10, which is easy enough to do (his top 10 is the same old crap we always hear), then here are some things that might help.

(1) The Mcdermott passenger lists from 911myths
(2) The Boston Globe Flight #11 Seating plan
(3) screenshot of BBC article of "still alive" crap
(4) a cartoon of an american flag with eyes and an FBi badge

It is kind of hard to do VISUALLY, because most of the REAL evidence are reports, eye witness testimony, REASONING, and COMMON SENSE.

 

[MarkyX]

What I do is HIGHLIGHT the visual evidence. I've done a few articles already and just use a light red box over the evidence.

By the way, as of today, I've done twenty minutes of 9/11 Deniers Speak. Most of the end footage was two Jimmy Walter's reviews AND the Loose Change Extra Footage (Isaac and Dylan giving his video to the widow).

I think Gravy would like my use of "The people are really secondaries" quote.

Again, if anyone is interested, I'll pass it along. However, DO NOT pass it around just yet. Screw Loose Change could write first impressions if they want also.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

"Public access cable" and "9-11 truth" are two terms that when put together will usually make most people cringe with fear of getting "bukkaked with stupid".

Not this time, however. Ronald Weick posted the following link today on Conspiracy Smashers blog. For an amatuer production, it is very even-handed and fair to both sides of the debate. The truther presents his side and the responses are given calmly and without judgement. Both participants keep thier cool and remain civil throughout.

Mostly it's stuff we've all heard before, but it's still good.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4732132614662229339

 

[Apollyon]

More info on Dr. Wood. Got her bachelor, masters and doctorate at virginia tech, although specialization is not listed.

http://www.ces.clemson.edu/me/mefaculty/Wood.html
http://www.ces.clemson.edu/me/mefaculty/pdfs/Wood1.pdf

w00t! She's a Hokie.

How appropriate.

 

[Gravy]

I made a new thread on my video idea. And I updated the intro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBT0lC77ayA

Much better. A few comments:
–Avery's quote is "Laugh in their face."
–I still think the speakers should be introduced first, before any audio. It's important to know that it's Avery speaking and that he's the creator of "Loose Change." (See next point.)
–"Dedicated to the lives we lost..." should be identified as the opening to "Loose Change."

 

[Blackadder_no]

Germany invaded 10 May 1941 and France surrendered on 25 June 1941--about seven weeks, not two.

Uh, that would be 1940, not 1941 on both dates.

Sorry, had to nitpick

 

[Gravy]

"Public access cable" and "9-11 truth" are two terms that when put together will usually make most people cringe with fear of getting "bukkaked with stupid".

Not this time, however. Ronald Weick posted the following link today on Conspiracy Smashers blog. For an amatuer production, it is very even-handed and fair to both sides of the debate. The truther presents his side and the responses are given calmly and without judgement. Both participants keep thier cool and remain civil throughout.

Mostly it's stuff we've all heard before, but it's still good.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4732132614662229339

That's the show I was supposed to be on, but apparently Les doesn't "do" televised debates. Funny, because just a few days before he suggested that he and I have a debate. (That was before I tore him to shreds on every 9/11 topic he brought up at Ground Zero.) If anyone wants to see that happening live, come on down to GZ Saturday at 1 pm. and watch Les accuse the NYFD of being "In on it." Is there something about the name Les that makes a person hate the FDNY?