Loose Change - Part III

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Yeah, Rajter is a skunk....

Brainster said:
Wow, that's pretty disgusting. Rajter appears to be quite a holocaust denier. Better still, from our standpoint is that Morgan Reynolds seems quite happy to associate with him.
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Read his alleged material. He quotes Ernst Zundel and David Cole. The former has been discredited and the latter has recanted his anti-Semitic positions.

Rajter is spouting the broken record of Holocaust denial that has been debunked and discredited.

His main anger is against Israel and the Jews, and denying the Holocaust is part of the effort to paint Israel specifically and Jews generically as evil monsters. In the world of Holocaust denial, the Holocaust never happened, but the Jews deserved what they got.

So given that 9/11 was a product of the endless Mid-East wars, 'm not surprised Holocaust deniers and neo-Nazis latched onto it right away for their own agendas. Some say the Jews did it, others applaud the destruction. All of it is sickening.
 
Very interesting point...

Hutch said:
Well, if you read some of his other threads, I am not so sure about the above...



Indeed. Nearly every reference/rebuttal over there is "Well, have you seen this movie?" or "Have you seen this youtube clip?" It is, I think, a fairly young crowd over there and much more oriented to see and accept things visually than old grouches like me who prefer reading and math.

I am not really sure that is a good thing for the future of my nation...
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Interesting idea....we now have multiple generations that grew up with the almighty box...and they regard what they see on it as real, and anything written as a "story." That's food for thought...or thood for fought.
 
chipmunk stew said:
Wow, MUCH more powerful. I feel far more ill viewing it this time. Nicely done.
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Yeah, I just finished the Bernard Brown section and the Todd Beamer one on AirAmerica (the one listed in Screw Loose Change, ironically enough which was I going to do after I visited the site)

If Alex Jones can do ArnoldExposed.com, I can do the same thing. Freedom of Speech and Expression is my favorite right.
 
Warm fuzzies from Loose Change Forum:

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Kiwiwriter said:
Read his alleged material. He quotes Ernst Zundel and David Cole. The former has been discredited and the latter has recanted his anti-Semitic positions.

Rajter is spouting the broken record of Holocaust denial that has been debunked and discredited.

His main anger is against Israel and the Jews, and denying the Holocaust is part of the effort to paint Israel specifically and Jews generically as evil monsters. In the world of Holocaust denial, the Holocaust never happened, but the Jews deserved what they got.

So given that 9/11 was a product of the endless Mid-East wars, 'm not surprised Holocaust deniers and neo-Nazis latched onto it right away for their own agendas. Some say the Jews did it, others applaud the destruction. All of it is sickening.
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Yes, and the odd thing is that blog he was posting at looks like it's mostly a Libertarian blog, not a Libertaryan blog. I did some looking into him at SLC; he's an MIT graduate student and apparently a good athlete; lots of photos of him participating in track meets. I suspect strongly that he's going to regret making that post if he decides to go into academia.
 
Just got this interesting email from an idiot. Unlike the others, it wasn't a threat!

First let me introduce myself,

I’m french, on september 11 2001, as nearly everybody, i thought that 19 hijakers took control of 4 of your planes to crash them into strategic places and that it was, as your gov pretended, an act of terrorism.

When 2002 came with your afghanistan’s war and all bush lies spammed on every international channels so that everyone would make fun of america and americans i started to wonder if the official story was really true, seeing that your governement can’t do anything but lie.

It took me more than 2 years to change my mind because i though at first that the inside job theory is far too conveniant as all the world hate america.

But you can’t deny the huge amount of evidences so i’m now sure ( like nearly half of the world’s population ) that i twas an inside job perpetrated by the most awful lot of terrorists on earth : your gvt.

Polls in every important country shows that america is far more feared for global peace and global order than any other terroristic country.

The only point of this mail is to thank you from the bottom of my heart, you’re criticizing loose change ( which is used to make people aware of something weird and making them looking answers for themselves ) by doing exactly the same thing.

Ok your opinion is biased, as for loose change you’ll say but yours is so much more far fetched and depending on personnal opinion or on emotional issues that people seeing your doc or reading gravy’s rebuttal will questions far more things that the ones who started with LC… so the result is exactly the same, you have no idea how many truthers you woke.

You and gravy are really a huge help for the truth movement, everyday we see new members coming because they saw your debunking and decided to seak answers for themselves, and when they see that the majority of victim’s family from that dreadful day are asking for a new investigation i let you guess which side they choose.

Just one word : keep up the good work, post links to your doc or to gravy’s page everywhere you can, the truth is coming out and when it does you’ll know that you’ve played a part in this ( even if you didn’t intend to ).
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My reply

You got me until "I'm French"
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:p
 
I’m french... It took me more than 2 years to change my mind because i though at first that the inside job theory is far too conveniant as all the world hate america.
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I must admit they're getting better, last time around, in 1940, it took them two weeks to surrender to a bunch of jew-hating fascists.

I wonder if Rick Rajter, Eric Hufscmidt and KKKilltown are in the market for some free real estate?
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
I must admit they're getting better, last time around, in 1940, it took them two weeks to surrender to a bunch of jew-hating fascists.

I wonder if Rick Rajter, Eric Hufscmidt and KKKilltown are in the market for some free real estate?
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Yes, because well-planned and efficient military tactics that quickly takes control over most of the national infrastructure is just the thing you want to keep up the war against, despite how city wars are messy, messier, and messier than hell.

Oh well, at least they surrendered to a superior military force. More than USA did in 'Nam, eh? ;)
 
MarkyX said:
You got me until "I'm French"
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Sword_Of_Truth said:
I must admit they're getting better, last time around, in 1940, it took them two weeks to surrender to a bunch of jew-hating fascists.
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It seems that, regarding the French, the level of critical thinking on this forum drops to zero.

In your opinion, are ALL french people stupid or just the ones from France ? Is it a genetic problem or does it have some socio-economic roots ?
 
As an American, I'm always frustrated and somewhat embarrassed by the French=derogatory-appelation/comment meme. If it were ever funny, it might have some small value. But frankly, it's never more than idiotic.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
I must admit they're getting better, last time around, in 1940, it took them two weeks to surrender to a bunch of jew-hating fascists.
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Well, others have whacked you around a bit, let me add a couple of facts to the mix.

Germany invaded 10 May 1941 and France surrendered on 25 June 1941--about seven weeks, not two.

Nearly 90,000 French troops died in those 46 days, and 220,000 were wounded. So someone was doing some fighting...

Over 20,000 French soldiers died in Nazi prison camps.

So I would cut them a bit of slack, I think, SOT.


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Hutch said:
Well, others have whacked you around a bit, let me add a couple of facts to the mix.

Germany invaded 10 May 1941 and France surrendered on 25 June 1941--about seven weeks, not two.

Nearly 90,000 French troops died in those 46 days, and 220,000 were wounded. So someone was doing some fighting...

Over 20,000 French soldiers died in Nazi prison camps.

So I would cut them a bit of slack, I think, SOT.


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Point taken.

I stand humbled and corrected.
 
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