Loose Change - Part III

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Effing hell. Loose change is still out there......on google video......and youtube.....
Given the fact that I didn't hear from ms. Davis (The naudet's lawyer) when i wrote the last time, I'm a bit leary about contacting her again unsolicited.
Any ideas?
 
MarkyX said:
Look what I whipped up in an hour
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I looked througt the whole three parts last night. Up to now, I must admit I was not must interested in this controversy because I thought the LCers were just another wacky group. Sorta ho-hum, aren't they weird.

But I now see why the passionate involvement of many of you. Yeah, they're nuts, but unlike many others whose impact is quite limited, these guys are doing real damage both personally and publically to the national dialog. I get that now. So, MarkyX, if your site has that effect on others, that will be an added benefit.

PS: Despite only a couple of points I questioned, it was very well done. FWIW, you have my thanks.
 
OK, maybe not technically sexist. But as a woman, I was getting pretty tired of the mysogynistic nature of the comments about Gypsy. Criticise her politics all you like, by why descend into stuff about her appearence? (SOT, I'm looking at you.)
The Loosers already do plenty of that.
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I hear you, but the lady is naked. Kind of tough to avoid it.

If it was a guy who was nude, you'd bet they'd be talking about it.
 
The_Fire said:
Effing hell. Loose change is still out there......on google video......and youtube.....
Given the fact that I didn't hear from ms. Davis (The naudet's lawyer) when i wrote the last time, I'm a bit leary about contacting her again unsolicited.
Any ideas?
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The loosers claim to be dealing:

http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/

"We have to take some of the Naudet's footage out (nothing imperative). Just making it a little bit better. I can't spend too much time on it, it's already set us back considerable.

Theater distribution deals are locked and loaded, all we have to do is finish the movie. That means interviewing people, tracking down footage, licensing it, etc."


Or in reality, they are telling themselves that they are just fine, and can do a re-edit, mix, etc. in time for Sept. 2006 (I predict the new version including the credits, with all the inaccuracies removed will be about 4 minutes. )

When they say "Theater distribution" rather than "Theatrical distribution" I think they've given themselves an out when it plays at the local Pantages, that has been a Bingo Hall for 25 years, but used to be a theater. . .
 
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sophia8 said:
OK, maybe not technically sexist. But as a woman, I was getting pretty tired of the mysogynistic nature of the comments about Gypsy. Criticise her politics all you like, by why descend into stuff about her appearence? (SOT, I'm looking at you.)
The Loosers already do plenty of that.
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Maybe you didn't notice it, but the woman was naked! If you're going to protest naked, this is what you get. If her message was her point maybe she should have kept her clothes on.

eta: Abby beat me to it.
 
Loose Change is awesome.

don't care what you say.

it's awesome.

even if it's not true.

it's awesome.

they lay out their facts in a clear way so people can understand them, I don't see why you people argue about it so much.
 
blue_eastcoast said:
even if it's not true.

it's awesome.

they lay out their facts.
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Uh, do you see a contradiction here?

The Lone Ranger was awesome too.

Though not true.

We call that fiction.

In this case, close to 3,000 real people died. Unlike a video game, they don't get up again.

That's fact.

Loose Change is a laughing stock. As are the "creators" in the news rooms of NY.
 
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blue_eastcoast said:
Loose Change is awesome.

don't care what you say.

it's awesome.

even if it's not true.

it's awesome.

they lay out their facts in a clear way so people can understand them, I don't see why you people argue about it so much.
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Name 1 fact.
 
blue_eastcoast said:
Loose Change is awesome.

don't care what you say.

it's awesome.

even if it's not true.

it's awesome.

they lay out their facts in a clear way so people can understand them, I don't see why you people argue about it so much.
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What are you, 12 years old?
 
blue_eastcoast said:
Loose Change is awesome.

don't care what you say.

it's awesome.

even if it's not true.

it's awesome.

they lay out their facts in a clear way so people can understand them, I don't see why you people argue about it so much.
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It's a bad piece of investigative journalism, the sources are not credible, the questions they ask are uninformed and the answers are often taken out of context, some of the facts are distorted so people who are unfamiliar with the subject will draw the wrong conclusion, and they took much of their footage from other sources without giving proper credit.

The voice-over is bad. It's high pitched, nasal, fast, and not very well articulated. The original footage that was shot was at a bad angle for documentaries (it should be at least at eye-level). The audio for those segments was distorted, and the lighting was also sub-par.

So it was poorly researched and poorly crafted. What about it do you find "awesome?"
 
Pardalis said:
What are you, 12 years old?
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OK Pardalis, show a little respect for 12 year olds, not all of them know that there is no easter Bunny. They are the ones we call special and we must be tolerant with them.

We really should chill out about the 3,000 slaughtered, after all someone is being entertained, gotta be the music.

I would stick a link to Screw Loose Change but I have already discovered that some of the denser ones do not pick up on the subtitles. It's operantly way to much work to read while watching a movie.

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OPINION TIME

Someone sent me a link to a rather professional documentation called "Brotherhood of Terror: The Muslim Brotherhood", which goes into get detail about the Muslim religion and it's rather dark past.

Which begs the question, should I post this on the site for the sake of understanding Al-Qaeda more and that they are more then just a dozen pissed off Muslims, or should I back away from this?
 
MarkyX said:
OPINION TIME

Someone sent me a link to a rather professional documentation called "Brotherhood of Terror: The Muslim Brotherhood", which goes into get detail about the Muslim religion and it's rather dark past.

Which begs the question, should I post this on the site for the sake of understanding Al-Qaeda more and that they are more then just a dozen pissed off Muslims, or should I back away from this?
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Personally, I'd back away. What religion doesn't have a rather dark past?
 
CptColumbo said:
It's a bad piece of investigative journalism, the sources are not credible, the questions they ask are uninformed and the answers are often taken out of context, some of the facts are distorted so people who are unfamiliar with the subject will draw the wrong conclusion, and they took much of their footage from other sources without giving proper credit.
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Investigative journalism would presuppose that there was any investigation or journalism being conducted. As I have yet to find evidence of either, referring to it as investigative journalism, bad or otherwise, is inherently misleading.
 
blue_eastcoast said:
Loose Change is awesome.

don't care what you say.

it's awesome.

even if it's not true.

it's awesome.

they lay out their facts in a clear way so people can understand them, I don't see why you people argue about it so much.
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That you, Dylan?
 
Stellafane said:
Personally, I'd back away. What religion doesn't have a rather dark past?
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Well looking at the video, they do show the reasons why an organization like AQ would be after the west, along with every other muslim. In fact, this entire video shows how exactly the anti-western Islamic movement began, including World War 2, the birth of Israel, and Russia.

A lot of CTs seem to believe that there is no reason for Muslims to go after the West, and this video does show a tale not often cited in the media.
 
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