Loose Change - Part III

[Sword_Of_Truth]

As entertaining as KKKilltown and JDX are, has anyone looked at the 9-11 Studies board over the last day or so?

Truthseeker1234 has his head planted so far up his hershey highway that he's (temporarily?) converted Brumsen to our side.

 

[Shrinker]

Only that first email is from somebody who lost someone on one of the planes - most of the rest are just from people who are asking for a DVD. Only a minority have actually seen the movie.
The plane that person was lost on was flight 77 - the one that hit the Pentagon. I wonder if this person is aware that most of the Loose Change crew don't believe that a plane hit the Pentagon? She's clearly in a fragile mental state and I don't think that seeing the dammed DVD is going to help her at all.

He clearly fails to realise that printing letters like that isn't a defense against the anti-CT people here and elsewhere. In fact, it's one of the main reasons so many people are trying to fight his lies. If nobody was falling for it and getting themselves needlessly distressed, and pinning their hopes for closure on some never-gonna-happen trial of the century, then we'd probably leave him alone, what with free speech and all...

 

[Brainster]

Look what I whipped up in an hour

http://www.lolloosechange.co.nr

EDIT: Anyone got a link to that nude photo shoot of gyspy and the unfortunate flag? I want to add that to Fun Stuff.

You can find it here. There are 3 other galleries in the series, just change the last number in that URL to 1-3 to see the others.

 

[brumsen]

As entertaining as KKKilltown and JDX are, has anyone looked at the 9-11 Studies board over the last day or so?

Truthseeker1234 has his head planted so far up his hershey highway that he's (temporarily?) converted Brumsen to our side.

I'm on nobody's side, sorry.

This kind of attitude is exactly why I'm starting to think it will never ever be possible to conduct a truly reasonable debate.

 

[Shrinker]

I'm on nobody's side, sorry.

This kind of attitude is exactly why I'm starting to think it will never ever be possible to conduct a truly reasonable debate.

Maybe if there was some way for both sides to commicate directly... Hmmm, perhaps a discussion forum? Where both sides were allowed to post, and both sides had the balls to participate sincerely.

edit: Welcome to the forum!

 

[Stellafane]

I'm on nobody's side, sorry.

This kind of attitude is exactly why I'm starting to think it will never ever be possible to conduct a truly reasonable debate.

Hi brumsen. Welcome to the forum.

I'd like your thoughts as to why you think a truly reasonable debate cannot be conducted regarding 9/11.

 

[brumsen]

Hi brumsen. Welcome to the forum.

I'd like your thoughts as to why you think a truly reasonable debate cannot be conducted regarding 9/11.

Well thanks for the welcome.

I just meant to point out, I guess, is that it seems to me that quite a few of the people I've encountered on the net debating this topic, appear to look at one's statements initially solely with a view to determine which side you're on, and then their attitude to what you say is determined by that, almost regardless of what you say.

So, pff, when someone is amused that I try to point out what I think is a mistake to someone who is supposed to be in the same 911-truthie camp as me, and read that as a sign that I've changed sides...

As if it was interesting "which side I am on". As if it mattered.

 

[WildCat]

You can find it here. There are 3 other galleries in the series, just change the last number in that URL to 1-3 to see the others.

Gypsy really needs to trim her grass.

Interpret that any way you'd like...

 

[JamesB]

Well thanks for the welcome.

I just meant to point out, I guess, is that it seems to me that quite a few of the people I've encountered on the net debating this topic, appear to look at one's statements initially solely with a view to determine which side you're on, and then their attitude to what you say is determined by that, almost regardless of what you say.

So, pff, when someone is amused that I try to point out what I think is a mistake to someone who is supposed to be in the same 911-truthie camp as me, and read that as a sign that I've changed sides...

As if it was interesting "which side I am on". As if it mattered.

Didn't you get kicked out of the "scholars" by Fetzer? To your credit, you seem to have a pretty independent mind. That type of thing doesn't seem to fit in with them too well.

 

[WildCat]

Well thanks for the welcome.

I just meant to point out, I guess, is that it seems to me that quite a few of the people I've encountered on the net debating this topic, appear to look at one's statements initially solely with a view to determine which side you're on, and then their attitude to what you say is determined by that, almost regardless of what you say.

So, pff, when someone is amused that I try to point out what I think is a mistake to someone who is supposed to be in the same 911-truthie camp as me, and read that as a sign that I've changed sides...

As if it was interesting "which side I am on". As if it mattered.

I hope you're not referring to me. I do try to only argue facts, though it's obviously an emotional subject. But you haven't banned me at least!

 

[MarkyX]

Gypsy really needs to trim her grass.

Interpret that any way you'd like...

Yep, she looked like an ugly person in the videos and I dared not see a full screen version. The thumbnails were bad enough.

And I've seen a lot of bad porn..

Added it to the site btw

 

[Hellbound]

Uh oh, I think we're going to need a new explosives expert.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ordnance

Gah.

Fine, I'll take the correction. I've always seen it spelled incorrectly, apparently.

Strange.

 

[delphi_ote]

Gah.

Fine, I'll take the correction. I've always seen it spelled incorrectly, apparently.

Strange.

Maybe this will be helpful:

A law is an ordinance, but a gun is a piece of ordnance.

 

[brumsen]

I hope you're not referring to me. I do try to only argue facts, though it's obviously an emotional subject. But you haven't banned me at least!

I was referring to Sword of Truth's posting here.

Indeed, I've seen no reason to ban you.

BTW, earlier on in the thread here I saw some bets about when some of you would be banned from the 9/11 studies journal forum. Very amusing

 

[brumsen]

Didn't you get kicked out of the "scholars" by Fetzer? To your credit, you seem to have a pretty independent mind. That type of thing doesn't seem to fit in with them too well.

Formally speaking, I resigned. He suspended me for a week for rather unclear reasons, which interestingly were unclear to his co-chair as well; and in the email exchange which I had with him following that I saw reasons to resign from SfT.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

I was referring to Sword of Truth's posting here.

Indeed, I've seen no reason to ban you.

BTW, earlier on in the thread here I saw some bets about when some of you would be banned from the 9/11 studies journal forum. Very amusing

Virtually all of us have been banned from a certain other 9-11 forum for the "crime" of presenting facts and evidence (some of us more or less diplomatically than others).

As for my post about you; to describe the subject matter as "emotionally charged" would be an understatement. Add to that the current political climate, the fact that both our countries are at war (I am a canadian citizen, we have had troops in afghanistan alongside our allies since the almost the earliest US incursion) wich in turn leads to the fact that if the "truthseekers" are wrong, then they have either willfully or out of ignorance aided the enemy and you have a perfect recipe for an atmosphere of "us vs. them" on both sides of the issue.

Ask the others here how many times they have been accused of working for the conspirators by opponents of the "official" version and you'll see what I'm talking about.

 

[brumsen]

Virtually all of us have been banned from a certain other 9-11 forum for the "crime" of presenting facts and evidence (some of us more or less diplomatically than others).

As for my post about you; to describe the subject matter as "emotionally charged" would be an understatement. Add to that the current political climate, the fact that both our countries are at war (I am a canadian citizen, we have had troops in afghanistan alongside our allies since the almost the earliest US incursion) wich in turn leads to the fact that if the "truthseekers" are wrong, then they have either willfully or out of ignorance aided the enemy and you have a perfect recipe for an atmosphere of "us vs. them" on both sides of the issue.

Ask the others here how many times they have been accused of working for the conspirators by opponents of the "official" version and you'll see what I'm talking about.

I've been made out for rotten fish by both 'sides' so I know what you're talking about.
And my country also has troops in Afghanistan.

However, I do not see how truthseekers have aided the enemy. Who is the enemy to whom you refer, anyway?

And what I meant to be saying is that even if the recipe for the us-them atmosphere would seem to be perfect, I would hope that intellectuals and reasonoble people debating the issue could abstain from that kind of thing.

 

[Gravy]

Ask the others here how many times they have been accused of working for the conspirators by opponents of the "official" version and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Four times, by four different people, today alone.
Yes, I'm serious.
I'm also a political liberal.
Go figure.

By the way, Brumsen, I'm Mark Roberts. Welcome to the forum!

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

I've been made out for rotten fish by both 'sides' so I know what you're talking about.
And my country also has troops in Afghanistan.

I've been accused of being a reptilian shapeshifter by one of the David Icke crowd. As well as a COINTELPRO agent agent a few dozen times.

However, I do not see how truthseekers have aided the enemy. Who is the enemy to whom you refer, anyway?

Al-Queada knocks over the WTC.

America and allies go to war against Al-Queada.

Truthseekers rise up, cry "false flag" and (here's where we go into the hypothetical) place nations leaders on trial, withdraw troops from the front and Al-Queada gets the land they lost back again.

As I said, they could be doing it willfully or out of ignorance. Either way, Al-Queada benifits.

And what I meant to be saying is that even if the recipe for the us-them atmosphere would seem to be perfect, I would hope that intellectuals and reasonoble people debating the issue could abstain from that kind of thing.

We may be adults, but we are only human. We will occaisionally falter or screw up despite our best efforts. In my defense, I didn't say anything about you half as offensive as I or the others have said about people like Chucksheen or JohndoeX, did I?

 

[sophia8]

Yep, she looked like an ugly person in the videos and I dared not see a full screen version. The thumbnails were bad enough.

And I've seen a lot of bad porn..

Added it to the site btw

Personally, I think we can do without juvenile sexist comments on this board. Go away and grow up.