Loose Change - Part II

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Gravy said:
I just came across this sticky note on my computer. It's a quote by CT blogger who had just seen the movie "United 93." To me this perfectly sums up the mind-boggling nature of 9/11 CT thought:

"I actually saw the movie yesterday, and being a firm believer of the inside job, I think they did a very good job unfortunately. If someone sees this movie before Loose Change, it would make it twice as hard to try and make yourself disbelieve the Government's story. The movie makes the events much more real to the viewer, it's a shame what this movie will accomplish."

Posted by UNSCleric on Saturday, April 29, 2006 at 7:02 AM

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One of the more bizarre parts of Loose Change is the (terrific) animated sequence of AA 77 hitting the Pentagon, and it's for just the reason cited above. If you don't believe that AA 77 hit the Pentagon, why would they show it happening? It certainly seems to be undercutting their own argument.
 
We backed Iraq?

Apollyon said:
Not to mention that the common refrain of "We were Saddam's buddy in the 80's." is pretty much garbage too. We gave Iraq support, mostly intelligence, but we also gave Iran support very quietly. We played both ends against the middle because we didn't want either side to win their war. A choice between a megalomaniac and a radical theocracy was not much of a choice.

And that picture that people love to post showing Rumsfeld shaking Saddam's hand as some sort of proof of collusion. Most people don't recognize him, but standing at the right hand of Saddam is Jacques Chirac. I always get a good chuckle when people cluelessly post that picture.
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What I get a kick out of are the folks who made, sold, and posted bumper stickers that read "Buy Iraqi War Bonds" during the 1979-81 hostage crisis in Iran, when Iraq and Iran started that 10-year war.

I wonder how those sticker-makers feel now?:D
 
Brainster said:
One of the more bizarre parts of Loose Change is the (terrific) animated sequence of AA 77 hitting the Pentagon, and it's for just the reason cited above. If you don't believe that AA 77 hit the Pentagon, why would they show it happening? It certainly seems to be undercutting their own argument.
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You can't undercut an argument that didn't have anything to hold it up to begin with. That's what scares me about CTs. Lack of any kind of logic, or science, or thinking or anything really
 
Where do they get this?

Pardalis said:
Were their parents around at all when they grew up? Are TV, movies and the internet their only source to formulate their judgment?
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Answer: latchkey kids in one-parent families or families where both parents work, growing up in a nation that is filled with the cynicism that has infected America since Vietnam, Watergate, Billygate, Contragate, reaching its peak with the national obsession over Monica Lewinsky's semen-stained dress.

They don't believe anything they are told by newscasts, newspapers, teachers, or any authority figures any more. Such sources are now all discredited as liars or lobbyists.

They get their news from urban legend websites, conspiracy theory websites, celebrities, and Comedy Central.

If Stephen Spielberg hadn't done good movies on World War II (and Michael Bay a lousy one), they probably would not have known there was such a conflict.
 
Brainster said:
One of the more bizarre parts of Loose Change is the (terrific) animated sequence of AA 77 hitting the Pentagon, and it's for just the reason cited above. If you don't believe that AA 77 hit the Pentagon, why would they show it happening? It certainly seems to be undercutting their own argument.
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I wonder who made that animation in the first place?

I wonder who the source is?

I wonder who owns it?

I wonder if they sold it as stock footage to "like hey, man, Dylan" ?

I wonder if the check cleared?

I wonder if they know it's in there if it wasn't produced by the losers?

I wonder.
 
Sorry if this was raised before (too many pages, posts and threads for my old rotten chemtrail-affected neurons)...

Those TCs... They pay their taxes don't they?

If they do, they are supporting teh conspyracies...
 
Correa Neto said:
Sorry if this was raised before (too many pages, posts and threads for my old rotten chemtrail-affected neurons)...

Those TCs... They pay their taxes don't they?

If they do, they are supporting teh conspyracies...
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You pay taxes if you have an income.

Live in your parent's basement?

Tax free. . .
 
Pardalis said:
Why is this neonazi piece of ◊◊◊◊ allowed to post there?
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The 911 CT movement is gaining a rep as being unwilling to purge its ranks of its most odious members. Loose Change is simply the most obvious demonstration of that fact.

JFK CT'ers managed to keep a better 'control' over their ranks. Heck, even the nutjobs who speculated that OK City was a conspiracy managed to keep the racist nonsense out of the public arguements for the most part.

For Loose Change, a guy in an SS Uniform whose hobby is throwing lit matches at minorities is merely another increase in the ranks.
 
Trifikas said:
Well, hoping we can finally stamp "Busted" (a 'la Mythbusters) on the controlled demo theory:
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Quote from: http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=aCuh.ATdfOXc&refer=top_world_news
Buckling Steel

According to Shyam-Sunder, the concave bowing of the steel was seen on the sides of the towers opposite where the planes hit them. At 10:06 a.m. that morning, an officer in a police helicopter reported that ``it's not going to take long before the north tower comes down.'' This was 20 minutes before it collapsed. In another radio transmission at 10:21 a.m., the officer said he saw buckling in the north tower's southern face, Shyam-Sunder said.

The report includes photographs taken from police helicopters showing the bending columns.
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If explosives were used, the Towers wouldn't show signs of Buckling 20 minutes before hand. Can we get further info on it? and pics, if the report is available.
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You can see a couple pictures in the executive summary of Project 6 of the NIST reports, starting on page lv:
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/NCSTAR1-6ExecutiveSummary.pdf

More detailed analysis is available in the full report (warning: long load time):
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/NISTNCSTAR1-6Draft.pdf

I've never heard an Inside Jobber explain how this buckling fits in with the CD theory.
 
kookbreaker said:
The 911 CT movement is gaining a rep as being unwilling to purge its ranks of its most odious members. Loose Change is simply the most obvious demonstration of that fact.

JFK CT'ers managed to keep a better 'control' over their ranks. Heck, even the nutjobs who speculated that OK City was a conspiracy managed to keep the racist nonsense out of the public arguements for the most part.

For Loose Change, a guy in an SS Uniform whose hobby is throwing lit matches at minorities is merely another increase in the ranks.
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So basically the LC admins prefer filth over critical debate.

ETA: "LC administrators", that would inculde Dylan Avery right?
 
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Pardalis said:
So basically the LC admins prefer filth over critical debate.
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They prefer anything over critical debate. Look at the ban-o-ramas that happen when one of the moderators (such as The Quest) get their arse handed to them in a debate! He banned at least three participants, some of whom were 911 CT supporters.
 
Some fun to be had here. The Loosers are all registering to boost the votes. Smarter ninjas know you don't need to register to vote...

http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/32619/Loose_Change_2nd_Edition_Part_One.html?autoplay=true

From a poster named OJX:

Sorry to spoil the fun, I was also once under the impression that this video was gold, then I read this.

http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html

It pretty much sums up how this is completely wrong in every way second by second of the video, learn like I did.
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Curiouser and curiouser.

I've been fairly active on the "moon hoax" thread over at LC, because I find it simply fascinating that people don't believe we've been there, despite the mountain of evidence (which more than rivals the 911 OT evidence).

I have a theory that the thread is rapidly devolving into the following......

Me: Here's what's wrong with your theory.
Them: Yeah, well I believe it anyway!
Me: But there's a major hole in it!
Them: I don't care. I believe in it anyway. Plbbt!


The whole thing amazes me.

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=4560&st=270#entry5119910
 
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