Loose Change - Part II

[WildCat]

It's no wonder why you can't see the obviousness of the us government's complicity in sept 11, joker.

It's as plain as the trunk on the giraffe...

 

[delphi_ote]

Mock mock mock

It's no wonder why you can't see the obviousness of the us government's complicity in sept 11, joker.

You're mocked because you've made so many claims without backing them up. If you'd back up one claim, people might start listening to you instead of laughing at you. Until then, you've already shown you don't take this day in history seriously at all. For you, it's just an exciting Dan Brown novel.

 

[Pardalis]

Wow bobkark that was a quick response. I doubt you even clicked on the link.

Unless you took up speed reading courses.

uhh.. Maybe that's because he's already talked about it in post #833, dumbass.

They finally have proof of the conspiracy!! Wow, you must take a look at this:

Whistleblower





Ooooh!! Software that predicts the future?! How can you now deny that 9/11 was a conspiracy? I bet they had hoverboards and holodecks and stuff too!

ETA: Wow, that is the best intro to any podcast I've ever heard.

 

[Gravy]

Mock mock mock

It's no wonder why you can't see the obviousness of the us government's complicity in sept 11, joker.

As we all continue to learn more about this topic, we start to comprehend the grandiosity of the thefts and fraudulent transactions that took place under the umbrella of 9-11- specifically hundreds of billions of dollars worth of gold bricks which were surreptitiously liberated from their safety deposit vaults under the World Trade Center. Couple that with the realization of the verifiably true statement made by Donald Rumsfeld on September 10th 2001- wherein he announced that $2.3 trillion dollars in U.S. taxpayer funds had been misappropriated by Pentagon accountants and “lost”.

geggy, once again I implore you to reconsider your embarrassing and insulting behavior.

 

[JamesB]

I tried reading that earlier, but I gave up after 10-15 minutes. Was anyone able to find a point hidden in there somewhere?

Even his chess analogy is wrong.

 

[Gravy]

I tried reading that earlier, but I gave up after 10-15 minutes. Was anyone able to find a point hidden in there somewhere?

Even his chess analogy is wrong.

I think what we're supposed to glean from this blithering idiot is that the truth of a conspiracy theory is inversely proportional to the length of its preamble.

 

[Pardalis]

Mock mock mock

It's no wonder why you can't see the obviousness of the us government's complicity in sept 11, joker.

You want me to show you something obvious? Your 194 posts that have been shown wrong.

 

[bob_kark]

uhh.. Maybe that's because he's already talked about it in post #833, dumbass.

Or maybe I was the one who stole the "software that predicts the future!!"

ETA: Er, yeah, what 60hzxtl said.

 

[60hzxtl]

Mock mock mock

It's no wonder why you can't see the obviousness of the us government's complicity in sept 11, joker.

Don't worry your name calling is just like petroleum off a ducks back, it's just water under the dam, we're just two ships that go bump in the night.

 

[60hzxtl]

Or maybe I was the one who stole the "software that predicts the future!!"

ETA: Er, yeah, what 60hzxtl said.

See Bob, you knew too!

We had ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE!

 

[bob_kark]

See Bob, you knew too!

We had ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE!

Yeah, but I discredited myself just enough, by not remembering your previous post, to make it appear that I didn't. That's why I get paid the big socks.

 

[delphi_ote]

Yeah, but I discredited myself just enough, by not remembering your previous post, to make it appear that I didn't. That's why I get paid the big socks.

Yep. 43 gets a load of XLs every week.

 

[WildCat]

From the article geggy posted:

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]On December 24, 2002 my apartment was burglarized, and by this time I was living with my current fiancée, in NYC, but we were spending Christmas in CT. When we returned on the 27th, everything seemed fine, and then I started to notice odd things missing; and most peculiar about the situation was that the only items that were missing, were items which were hidden, items only a professional could find… and indeed had. [/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Once we secured the apartment, we called the police and filed a report. At the time, I had let my insurance lapse, so there was no insurance to collect; and besides, some of the items taken weren’t exactly things you list on your insurance policy, but let’s suffice to say that when someone invades your home and steals your measures of security and your research only, it sends a message that it wasn’t a normal burglary. That, and the fact that there was easily $100,000 worth of fence-able loot lying around the apartment, but the only items taken were items which pertained to my investigation of 9-11… my company laptop, my video camera (which I had with me on the morning of September 11th), my global cell phone, and all of my disaster-recovery copies of my data… well, almost all of them.

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Now, as some of you may know, I do remodeling/repairs etc. to homes and apartments. Years ago a property management company sent me to an apartment to change the locks of a tenent. When I got there, I saw nothing wrong w/ the existing locks, but he was adamant that whenever he was out of the apartment people would break in, take things, and put tham back exactly where he had left them. He was certain of this! Basically, I was sent there to attempt to appease him because he kept hounding the management company about his locks. While I was changing the locks, he told me the stories of how "they" would come in and take things, how they were spying on him, how they wanted special information only he had. He then started playing me cassette tapes he had made, which detailed a great conspiracy of some sort in a rambling, pointless roundabout way very similar to the manifesto geggy linked to. All in all, it was a classic case of an untreated paranoid schizophrenic. I thought the whole incident was somewhat amusing, until a few weeks later when he was found floating in Lake Michigan - an apparent suicide.

I had nearly forgotten about that episode, until listening to that audio brought the memories flooding back, it is eerily similar! The whole pantameter of it, just eerie!

If you ask me, this man is seriously mentally ill - and the CT'ers are holding this up as their great proof and feeding his delusions. This is just really sick...

 

[delphi_ote]

If you ask me, this man is seriously mentally ill - and the CT'ers are holding this up as their great proof and feeding his delusions. This is just really sick...

Like I said before:

Having that many unquestioning believers together with the mentally unstable is like storing gasoline and a box of matches in a 3rd grade classroom where the teacher is on vacation.

 

[Gravy]

Some more highlights from "whistleblower" Richard Andrew Grove.
PLEEEEZE tell me this is a hoax! PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE!

Now I mention in this in passing only because it has everything to do with the Gas Prices these days, and since people are now pawning their possessions to fill their tanks, I figured I’d mention it in case you’re interested. You see, whether or not Oil is truly a fossil fuel (and therefore depleteable) or is actually abiotic (and therefore regenerative) is up for debate; however, I agree that oil is used to exert a measure of control on populations- and to that end, you may want to check out a book called the “Deep Hot Biosphere” sometime, as it explains that oil is not a fossil fuel, and not in danger of running out. But I digress…*

Hundreds of billions in fraudulent transactions took place just prior to the buildings being pulled down on 9-11- not including what I mentioned about Marsh and AIG previously- these transactions which capitalized on the destruction of fellow human beings were also in part facilitated by Marsh & McLennan. I know this because they were captured on hard-drives found in the rubble at Ground Zero… a German Company called Convar recovered the information on these drives.*

For me, it became obvious, only a few moments after the South Tower explosion, that the personnel and vehicles I was observing at Ground Zero were not there to help rescue people.*

Perhaps someone with Patriot Act Authority went to my landlord who helped them gain entry. Interestingly enough, when we were forced into exodus in 2003, the same landlord saw fit to cheat us out of our $7000 security deposit. Ironically, he admitted it to this on tape; and was knowingly defrauding us openly. Why would he take such an opportunity and kick us when we were down, after I had paid him over $100,000 in rent during my stay in New York? Possibly because he knew that due to the nature of the situation, every opportunity was being explored to financially break me, and so he was just doing his part to serve the terrorists.*

It started with American Express. Although I had a verbal agreement with them to pay in full the expenses which I had been left hanging with after an abrupt termination, my account was closed; and they called for me to pay off my card, in full, immediately.*

In August 2003, I found out that one of my clients, DynCorp was engaged in the international sex-slave trade, selling women and children in various parts of the world for the purposes of prostitution, slavery, and use in snuff films; wherein they are murdered for entertainment. Search on the “United Nations +DynCorp” and you may find that DynCorp was convicted of having sold over 200,000 women and children through this black market slave trade, and that’s only a fraction of the illicit business they’ve done over the past several years.

Al Qaeda is the shadow cast by elements of the intelligence community… “Al Qaeda” means the Base, and “Al Qaeda” takes its name from a database file wherein information on miscellaneous terrorists was filed for future classification.*

Getting back to Software companies, they literally print their own money, and if that makes you think of Bill Gates and Larry Ellison, it certainly should, as both Microsoft and Oracle were Pentagon projects turned commercial.

or one might make the connection to today’s Human Trafficking crisis, via a the front cover of the June 29 1989 Washington Times, whereby said connections to the White House and the sex-slave trade, and the Oracle of Omaha, are made clear… noting the connection to the President’s visit to Omaha on September 11th , when Buffett was holding his “last annual” golf tournament. Coincidence?

my Range Rover was repossessed

On December 17, 21, & 27, 2004 and January 12th 2005 I sent a variety of faxes, letters, and parcels to the attention of Harrison Ford, care of his publicist, Patricia McQueeney. Specifically in the 2nd package, which weighed 31 pounds and arrived in a stainless steel briefcase; there was information pertaining to a man-made disaster being created- what was to be the Tsunamis that hit Indonesia- and the contents also referred to the hundreds of thousands who would be killed, arriving just days before the disaster… my hope was to put the information into the hands of someone with a voice, and in my mind, Harrison’s pretty well known… he’s been the President, Jack Ryan, Han Solo, and Indiana Jones- in other words, people might listen to what he has to say- considering we were living in, what seemed to be, a leaderless society.*

To offer some insight into what I can’t share with you right now regarding man-made disasters… Tesla-based weapons like H.A.A.R.P. leave a unique signature which differentiates their manifestations from those which occur in Nature- and if you know what to look for, you can identify man-made earthquakes, such as the Iranian quake which occurred one year to the day before the Indonesian Tsunamis.

The Brothers Flynt replied… with a Cease and Desist from their attorneys- in response to my recommendation that Hustler cover the 9-11 phenomenon; as I naively envisioned Hustler as being a viable communication mechanism possibly still outside of the controlled mass media, and Flynt as a self-espoused First Amendment advocate, through which this information could plausibly be disseminated, specifically to our Troops.

While many interested in 9-11 have already become well-acquainted with the 2nd Edition of a film called: Loose Change, released January 16th of this year; I specifically wanted to reference the work of Louder Than Words Productions, specifically Dylan, Korey, and Jason because they are an excellent example of the power of a few young minds, and while they seem to be well informed, they’re also very wise for their age. They’re trail-blazers, and have produced what I consider the most palatable and widely consumable documentary of the 9-11 genre, because it presents the facts without fanfare… and it addresses sensitive topics with grace and professionalism.

You see, Our enemy knows that we don’t do our homework, and that in fact is the Achilles Heel of America.*

… and I would also note the photo op on the same morning, where the President is pictured with Lynne Cheney’s book America, wherein he is holding it upside down so that the U.S. Flag is represented as a distress signal.

September 11th, 1971: construction began on both the North and South Tower- that same day, Nikita Khrushchev died, and there was also the famous at Attica Prison, in New York. Noting that the Twin Towers were destroyed 30 years to the day after their birth.*

September 11th, 1995: reports surface of a remote controlled plane that was crashed into the White House.

-and We the People can no longer afford to be ignorant-

Unless you can explain how the Taliban infiltrated the secure vaults under the World Trade Center and stole hundreds of billions in bouillon, why the owners of that Bullion are keeping quiet, or how they got NORAD to conveniently schedule 6 simultaneous drills the same morning they were paying homage to the birthdays of their target buildings

You can reach me telephonically or by leaving a voicemail at 917-779-9215 or you can email me at [email protected]

Canceling out these destructive waves is as straightforward as introducing a simple wave interference pattern- and it is my contention that communication is exactly the type of interference necessary… and while I’m personally still searching for the right frequency which brings it all into harmony, it’s only a matter of trial and error… and any day now, we could get lucky, and strike a chord.*

:END OF TRANSMISSION:*

(bolding mine)

ETA: got that frequency handy, Kenneth?

 

[delphi_ote]

Some more highlights from "whistleblower" Richard Andrew Grove.
PLEEEEZE tell me this is a hoax! PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE!


(bolding mine)

:END TRANSMISSION?

Transmission? What the hell are they talking about? Can you think of any mode of communication that works this way outside of Tom Clancy novels?

 

[Pardalis]

From Grove:

there was information pertaining to a man-made disaster being created- what was to be the Tsunamis that hit Indonesia

Holly cow! This is paranoia to the EXTREME!

So the movings of the Earth's tectonic plates are man-made?!!!!

 

[Polaris]

I'm wondering what their 3rd edition will be like. What if they removed everything that was garbage or misleading or patently false? Oh, sorry. That would be a video consisting of:

Opening credits,

Statement about how the WTC and a portion of the Pentagon was destroyed on 9/11, with no pictures.

Ending Credits

I'd like to thank the people on this thread for helping me talk a friend out of believing loose change (again!). Just goes to show that a degree from the top university in the nation doesn't prevent you from being drawn in by these hucksters.

Considering the amount of legal action and civil litigation they're likely to get now that the Naudets have started the ball rolling, I bet they use Loose Change 3 to claim that the eeeeviiillllllll Korporations did it.

 

[WildCat]

From Grove:



Holly cow! This is paranoia to the EXTREME!

So the movings of the Earth's tectonic plates are man-made?!!!!

Like I said, I really think this guy is seriously mentally ill and needs to find treatment - but that he is unlikely to find treatment so long as he is around his current group of "friends". Really, I sincerely feel bad for this guy - and angry at the mindless idiots that encourage his illness.

 

[JamesB]

I was reminded of Russel Crowe in a Beautiful Mind, or Mel Gibson in Conspiracy Theory. I wonder if he has clippings from newspapers plastered all over the walls of his apartment?