Loose Change - Part II

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

XXX, Arkan - GET OUT OF MY MIND!!!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhh.


OK, so I was going to post something along the same lines, have you 2 thought of going to the million?

No, then we'd have to reveal the existence of the neural-taps in your skull.... err, I mean, Randi's presence would disrupt our vibe.... or something.

 

[chipmunk stew]

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[Sentinel]

WTC initial explosion South Tower

I have to admit the math is excelent.

I have seen tanker crashes with more fires, though.

LoL, but the comedy in here is even better, Bwaa haa !!


PARLIMENT, OMG !!!



GOD BLESS THE MESS

SENTINEL

 

[Hellbound]

I have to admit the math is excelent.

I have seen tanker crashes with more fires, though.

I assume you're talking of 18-wheeler tanker trailers, rather than, say, oil tanker ships.

Can you be specific? What were they carrying, what were the conditions?

There should be abundant sources, because a tanker fire larger than the WTC explosion would have definately made national news.

I hope you realize that the "little blast" you are talking about has a cross-section of over two acres? Something on the order of 500 to 600 feet wide? That's enough to cover several 8-lane freeways.

 

[Apollyon]

I had no idea tankers were capable of doing 500 mph. Who knew?

Damn government is always keeping something from us.

 

[brodski]

Uh oh.

Looks like the wheels are coming off the UK Parliament screening, which is supposed to happen tomorrow.



http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=4029&view=findpost&p=5284773

Well Dylan is claiming that Meacher may have screened LC2E in the Palace of Westminster, but he's "not sure", which is strange because Dylan has been claming for weeks that he knew that Meacher wouldn't be showing it, but another mystery MP had stepped into the breach.
My prediction- the LC crowd will continue to tell people (and believe themselves) that the screening did go ahead despite evidence to the contrary, until Meacher (and his researchers/ assistants) gets so sick of hearing about this that he publicly denies the screening, at which point the loosers will claim that Meacher life was in danger. Mind you they are claiming that already.

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=6332

 

[Gravy]

I had no idea tankers were capable of doing 500 mph. Who knew?

Damn government is always keeping something from us.

He may be talking about mid-air refueling planes, but who knows?
Who knows?

 

[Gravy]

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=6332

I was trying to get my MP there, he was VERY keen to see it, but there was no info available to members on the screening. However sever poster here have been assuring me that Dylan had assured them that the screening will defiantly, defiantly go ahead, and to tell my MP the same. Now Dylan is "not sure" WTF is this? are we SERIOUS about getting the message out or aw we just involved n some kind of giant ego stroke?

If it’s the latter I’ve been wasting sever pretty important peoples time over this parliamentary debarkel, which has done the movement a lo more harm than good.

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=6332&view=findpost&p=5315909

Can one of you Brits tell me what region this slang is from?

 

[Sentinel]

Tankers Tracter Trailers

Yeah, and they carry much more than 10K too.

They burn for hours, sometimes the burn asfault and melt bridges and steel but not in an hour and a half.


Why didn't Amb Barbara Bodine (Yemen) let John O'neil return to Yemen to continue his investgation on the U.S.S Cole?

Why did Ambasador Barbara Bodine (Yemen) become the head of the Goverment change over in the early stages in Iraq?


Why were there no WMD in Iraq when intel was 100% ?



These are just some legit questions that need to be focused on.



GOD BLESS



Sentinel

 

[Gravy]

Can one of you Brits tell me what region this slang is from?

Okay, I've been sitting here cracking up. Whenever you're feeling down, just say the words "parliamentary debarkel" to yourself. It's a great stress-reliever. Thank you LC!

 

[Apollyon]

Well Dylan is claiming that Meacher may have screened LC2E in the Palace of Westminster, but he's "not sure", which is strange because Dylan has been claming for weeks that he knew that Meacher wouldn't be showing it, but another mystery MP had stepped into the breach.
My prediction- the LC crowd will continue to tell people (and believe themselves) that the screening did go ahead despite evidence to the contrary, until Meacher (and his researchers/ assistants) gets so sick of hearing about this that he publicly denies the screening, at which point the loosers will claim that Meacher life was in danger. Mind you they are claiming that already.

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=6332

LOL. I've discovered a new favorite non-word in that thread over at LC: "debarkel"

Sounds like a something you'd have a vet do to your dog. "Fifi is a quiet dog now. We had her debarkeled."

Edit: Damn you Gravy!

 

[Gravy]

Yeah, and they carry much more than 10K too.
They burn for hours, sometimes the burn asfault and melt bridges and steel but not in an hour and a half.
Why didn't Amb Barbara Bodine (Yemen) let John O'neil return to Yemen to continue his investgation on the U.S.S Cole?
Why did Ambasador Barbara Bodine (Yemen) become the head of the Goverment change over in the early stages in Iraq?
Why were there no WMD in Iraq when intel was 100% ?
These are just some legit questions that need to be focused on.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE TELL US WHAT YOUR POSTS HAVE TO DO WITH 9/11. IF YOU'VE READ THIS FORUM BEFORE, YOU KNOW THAT WE DON'T ACCEPT QUESTIONS AS EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING.

eta: and not that it has anything to do with anything, but most tanker trailers do not carry "much more" than 10k gallons.

 

[chipmunk stew]

Can one of you Brits tell me what region this slang is from?

I think the "defiantly, defiantly" part is pretty accurate, though.

 

[Apollyon]

Yeah, and they carry much more than 10K too.

They burn for hours, sometimes the burn asfault and melt bridges and steel but not in an hour and a half.

Thanks for the useless trivia.

When a tanker crashes into the upper stories of a skyscraper @ 500 MPH, do let us know. Until then it's a meaningless comparison.

Another thing you may want to pick up on: The OS doesn't claim that the steel melted.

 

[Sentinel]

Thats right

Sagged was more like it, meaning blow torch conditions, Genius.



Tell me, what sagged first the Steel or the firefighter turnout gear?


And for the bonus point, what is the hight temp limit for turn out gear?


Also, if there was 10K of fuel burning how was it the first units on scene "Saw" numerous 10-45s and two small pokets of fire only needing 2 lines?



Cause you're so smart and so is Hutch, "Sentinal" HUTCH?





Sentinel

 

[Hellbound]

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE TELL US WHAT YOUR POSTS HAVE TO DO WITH 9/11. IF YOU'VE READ THIS FORUM BEFORE, YOU KNOW THAT WE DON'T ACCEPT QUESTIONS AS EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING.

eta: and not that it has anything to do with anything, but most tanker trailers do not carry "much more" than 10k gallons.

Just to second Gravy, we used tnakers in the military on Hemmitt trucks. The fuelers have a tank close to the size of an 18-wheeler tanker, and they're 10,000 gallon tanks.

I could see maybe 15,000 for an 18 wheeler, if that.

Also, does Sentinal understand that there is a difference between burning and explosion? A tanker truck that cracks open (from wreck or turn-over or whatever) and ignites is not under pressure, and is not sprayed out everywhere due to impact force. It will typically burn, rather than explode, and the fireball isn't nearly as large.

The jet fuel from the plane was free of containers (as the fuel tanks would have disintigrated on impact at that speed) and sprayed across and over everything. It was at least partially aerosoled, plus spread over a wider area. Heck, you can test this at home (but only do so at your own risk):

Take 2 gallons of gasoline. Put one gallon in a metal bucket. Spread the other gallon out over the ground/driveway/whatever. Ignite each, and time how long it takes them to burn away. I'll garauntee you the spread out fuel will burn off much quicker.

 

[Pak43]

Can one of you Brits tell me what region this slang is from?

It's from the county known as "◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ Moron", it's a smallish county which is constituted from nothing but marshy swampland.

It's inhabitants only know one means of escape, by an almighty leap to the neighboring county of "Conclusions", gracefully clearing the majestically wide "River of Evidence" in a single bound....

 

[Johnny Pixels]

Yeah, and they carry much more than 10K too.

They burn for hours, sometimes the burn asfault and melt bridges and steel but not in an hour and a half.

UK petrol tankers (ie the trailer ones you see all the time) carry approx 30,000 litres (8000 gallons) of petrol. They are separated into different compartments, which is why they have several hatches on the top, each one is for a separate compartment. This means that a crash does not spill the entire load. (I know this because I have seen them being made)

They do burn for hours because it is liquid petrol, and not vapour, and so the whole thing doesn't go up at once. Kind of like an aircraft crashing into a building. The immediate vapour release burns rapidly, or explodes depending on the conditions, leaving much more fuel as liquid to seep out and add to the fire.

They take hours to weaken steel because they are out in the open, so the heat can escape in every direction. Clearly the conditions are very different in the enclosed space of a tower block. They do melt the asphalt in the immediate vicinity, because the heat is concentrated there, usually in the area under the tanker. The steel need not melt to be weakened. Heat some needles up in a gas flame. Do they need to melt before you can bend them easily?

 

[Orb]

This might be a dumb question, but don't airplanes have oxygen tanks on board in case of emergencies? Wouldn't this exacerbate the fires or increase the explosion? Or wouldn't it be enough to make a difference?

 

[chipmunk stew]

It's from the county known as "◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ Moron", it's a smallish county which is constituted from nothing but marshy swampland.

It's inhabitants only know one means of escape, by an almighty leap to the neighboring county of "Conclusions", gracefully clearing the majestically wide "River of Evidence" in a single bound....

Welcome Pak.