Loose Change - Part II

[Apollyon]

As you wish.

Shall I finish the mission in progress at 16607 Rocky River Drive in Westlake, OH? I'm nearly done replacing the dimensional shingle roofing with clay tile.

Please advise.

Did you check for the C4 encapsulated in the tile, or are you sworn to secrecy on the matter?

 

[Mr. Skinny]

Did you check for the C4 encapsulated in the tile, or are you sworn to secrecy on the matter?

Gravy will have to inform me that you have the proper clearance as well as the "need to know". Even then, I can only communicate with you through a secure system.

 

[Polaris]

The Telepgraph article stated that he did four video messages. I think i remember that there were at least more than one. I'll research that ... later.


The problem is that there is NO evidence for a coherent official story. NO evidence to wage war on the world. NO evidence to piss on international law. What about your constitution? What about habeas corpus? You wouldn't accept this "evidence" and things like bombing Zarkawi with two 500 lbs bombs while killing civilians without the virtual castration that 9/11 was.

As i said before - i only want evidence.

Well, true motives come out now.

 

[Polaris]

Quick and dirty math here, if any one sees flaws, point them out.

From here: http://www.bts.gov/publications/national_transportation_statistics/html/table_04_06_m.html

Jet fuel = 37,626,700 joules/liter

10,000 gallons = 37,854.118 liters

So our energy comes out to 1424325541751 joules.

1 Kg of TNT = 4612070 joules

So I'm getting 10,000 gallons of jet fule being inline with 308825.6557 Kg of TNT.

However some things to factor in, TNT is a high explsove and would release its energy much faster then JP4. Also this takes into account total conversion and usage of the JP4 in a single blast. We all saw that the explosion was over a few seconds and was more of a rapid burn, more in line with gun-poweder then TNT.

I'm sure Huntsman can explain the explosives side better then I

I'm still intrigued by the hypothesis that it was a fuel-air explosion, as a result of fuel in still liquid form, that caused the explosive damage to the lobby and the lower floors.

 

[Polaris]

Insults shouldn't be tolerated from anyone.


so get a grip.


Oh, I guess this gets me banned now.

Sentinel

Planning on wrapping that mod around your neck and jumping off a stool?

 

[dubfan]

Interesting, when Bin Laden & AQ take credit for the 9/11 attacks -- the Loosers say OBL & Co. are lying.

When Bin Laden & AQ claim the 20th hijacker was someone besides Moussaoui, then the MSM and Bush admin are lying.

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=6306&view=findpost&p=5296221

 

[Gravy]

As you wish.

Shall I finish the mission in progress at 16607 Rocky River Drive in Westlake, OH? I'm nearly done replacing the dimensional shingle roofing with clay tile.

Please advise.

You may need to stand up again. Either that sixth row from the top is crooked, or I need to get these optics adjusted. N.B.: Factory seconds aren't always bargains, especially when they're Chinese satellites.

 

[dubfan]

Uh oh.

Looks like the wheels are coming off the UK Parliament screening, which is supposed to happen tomorrow.

Is the Parliament thing happening tomorrow?

If it is- they are not telling MPs about it!
I've just had to tell my MP that it has been "canceled at short notice", because I didn't want to look like an absolute twat when it didn't happen. He's been looking into the LC screening for weeks, and was very interested in the 9/11 truth movement. But talking to him now he seems to think that we're a bunch of idiots on the internet making up stories of political backing just to get attention. And the way I'm feeling ATM I'm half inclined to agree with him. When Meacher pulled out of LC2E it would have been one thing to have faced up to this- someone got to Meacher and told him not to screen LC, but instead we get cryptic postings about how it IS going to happen and how we still need to get our members to attend!
After this debarked there is NO WAY ON EARTH that my MP will risk his political career to get involved in a search for the truth- in his eyes we can no longer be trusted to he tell the truth about a film screening, let alone mass murder and treason.

WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE GUYS? I expect distortions and half truths from the gov- but if we want to be taken seriously we need to get ORGANISED not make up flyers for a screening which will never happen, pretending that we already are being taken seriously.

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=4029&view=findpost&p=5284773

 

[Gravy]

Gravy will have to inform me that you have the proper clearance as well as the "need to know". Even then, I can only communicate with you through a secure system.

Apollyon will be cleared as soon as he completes his mission at the LC forum. Until then, the Apollyon missions never happened.

 

[R.Mackey]

So I'm back from work. What have we got here...

That's not thin. That sounds like a statement from an islamistic, antisemitic fundamentalist. I think this is authentic. [...]

The Taliban offered to hand him over in exchange for evidence of his envolvement in 9/11.

OK, so now we're seeing some details of the "coverup" that you believe in. You would save us all some time, and reduce the chance of being misunderstood, if you'd simply explain your theory all at once. I've asked you to do this already.

It's perfectly fine if your theory is limited to a segment of the Sept. 11th tragedy, it doesn't have to be all-encompassing, but just tell us what it is!

Yes. I think he [Bin Laden] is dead since late 2001 and the later videos are faked.

Got it. Let's think about this.

So you're saying that:

1. Bin Laden's initial denials of involvement in 9/11 were the truth.
2. The Taliban handed over Bin Laden to the US Government after we gave them evidence of his involvement.
3. Bin Laden was killed at some point during or soon after this process.
4. Later statements made by Bin Laden, claiming responsibility, were forgeries.

This is what you believe, correct?

Why do you believe this? Please, please tell me you have some reason to believe this other than the fact that he reversed his statements in late 2001.

 

[steve s]

Uh oh.

Looks like the wheels are coming off the UK Parliament screening, which is supposed to happen tomorrow.

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=4029&view=findpost&p=5284773

From that post...

...but instead we get cryptic postings about how it IS going to happen...

Is this like that woman that thought David Letterman was sending her cryptic messages through her TV set?

Steve S.

 

[NobbyNobbs]

Well, I've invited another member of the LC forum to join our little discussion....let's see if she takes me up on it.

QUOTE (jessicajohnstone @ Jun 14 2006, 01:14 AM)
So you are calling me a Liar? And the people on this forum Liars? or aM I piking you up wrong?

Are you from JREF??????????

Give me the freaking addy for that forum.......

Here's the address for the thread you want....


http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57424

 

[Gravy]

Okay, on June 10th, I wrote this

...who will be the first to compare Dylan Avery to Martin Luther King Jr.

Now go here and scroll down to see the whole June 11th entry.
http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/​

Not only are they using King's image, they're using Tommie Smith's Black Power salute from the 1968 Olympics!

Now introducing JessicaJohnstone as Rosa Parks!

All in the name of PROTESTING AT A MEMORIAL!

Can these creeps be any more clueless?​

 

[Gravy]

Well, I've invited another member of the LC forum to join our little discussion....let's see if she takes me up on it.

Outstanding, and timely! I just mentioned her in my last post.
Feel free to use the Gravy/DJ thread...tumbleweeds are blowing there.

(It can take time to get registration cleared, though)

 

[delphi_ote]

Okay, on June 10th, I wrote this

Now go here and scroll down to see the whole June 11th entry.
http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/​

Not only are they using King's image, they're using Tommie Smith's Black Power salute from the 1968 Olympics!

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehost/8790448f7aa64e987.jpg[/qimg] [qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehost/8790448f7aa63dffb.jpg[/qimg]

Now introducing JessicaJohnstone as Rosa Parks!

All in the name of PROTESTING AT A MEMORIAL!

Can these creeps be any more clueless?​

I'm going to be ill...

 

[Ducky]

I'm going to be ill...

Not to be confused with "illin'"...

 

[Gravy]

Not to be confused with "illin'"...

As in Illin' Avery?

 

[R.Mackey]

Somebody help me, I'm going blind -- around the right-hand side of that circle, there are a few extra characters. Does that say "Louder Than Words LLC?" As in "limited liability corporation?" Curious.

Can't say I'm surprised. They've basically called the entire FDNY liars, pissed on the graves of 4,000 Americans and insulted the survivors, and accused hundreds of conspiring to commit one of the worse crimes of all time, all the while willfully ignorant of their literally hundreds of childish mistakes. In contrast, besmirching Dr. King and Tommie Smith is hardly a footnote. The Rubicon has already been crossed.

On the bright side, now they'll be buying bumper stickers, and making themselves even easier to pick out from the crowd. Can't imagine this will get them out of many parking tickets.

 

[Gravy]

Somebody help me, I'm going blind -- around the right-hand side of that circle, there are a few extra characters. Does that say "Louder Than Words LLC?" As in "limited liability corporation?"

It's actually "Limited Literacy Conspiradroids."

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Well, I've invited another member of the LC forum to join our little discussion....let's see if she takes me up on it.

NN:

May I ask what prompted jessicajohnstone's outburst at the LC forum you've mentioned?