The Fool
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Hmmmmm, all I have is a shotgun...you have access to heavy weapons? I am beginning to distrust you already....Freakshow said:My title will be "Seargeant FS, American, and hence, provider of all the guns to this coup"We've got lots of them in this country. You gonna give me a shopping list?
OK
For the pro-lifers:
What about rape? What about those who will get an abortion by any means possible, and the possibility of driving them to an underground clinic to do so? How many women will die by your policies? I have seen little information about educational imperatives, other than an unfunded mandate from ken. Are you going to help women raise the children they cannot afford?
Isn't it true that you aren't pro-life, but anti-woman?
CFLarsen: Are you seriously proposing we use tax money to bolster the economy of another country when we are running at a deficit of unprecedented proportions?
AS: Are you suggesting that wetbacks are the same as rabbits? Are you suggesting they are less than human?
gnome: How, exactly, would we save Social Security?
Shemp: How, exactly, can you justify only taxing the wealthy. Is this not discriminatory?
Finally, what is your Iraq War Exit Strategy?
For the pro-lifers:
What about rape? What about those who will get an abortion by any means possible, and the possibility of driving them to an underground clinic to do so? How many women will die by your policies? I have seen little information about educational imperatives, other than an unfunded mandate from ken. Are you going to help women raise the children they cannot afford?
Isn't it true that you aren't pro-life, but anti-woman?
CFLarsen: Are you seriously proposing we use tax money to bolster the economy of another country when we are running at a deficit of unprecedented proportions?
AS: Are you suggesting that wetbacks are the same as rabbits? Are you suggesting they are less than human?
gnome: How, exactly, would we save Social Security?
Shemp: How, exactly, can you justify only taxing the wealthy. Is this not discriminatory?
Finally, what is your Iraq War Exit Strategy?
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ok...you are in. But no shooting stuff into the air during the spontaneous parades by the devoted population ok? It gives me a splitting headache. Now all we need is a crooked accountant to manage the swiss bank accounts and the US aid money....Freakshow said:Heavy? No. Better than you could get in Australia? Definately.
(I'm just kidding, because of the US's rep with guns. I actually don't know what the gun laws are in Australia. But its fun giving you a hard time about it.)
thaiboxerken said:
This is politics, baby. "Fair" doesn't enter into it...
thaiboxerken said:
My honorable opponent apparently believes in impossible solutions. To think that illegal immigration can be eliminated is to delude not only oneself, but also the voters.
(Politics, baby...)
1. What are your thoughts regarding the deficit and debt?
The deficit should be eliminated, but I will accept a planned, controlled period of debt, if necessary.
2. Would you favor or oppose changes in the tax rates?
I would raise the taxes. I would diminish tax deductions, especially for the rich.
3. What about spending cuts or increases and where?
I would increase spending on social programs, environmental programs, educational programs and scientific research.
I would increase the use of technology, especially IT systems within the public sector.
4. Any plans for social security?
Social security for all.
5. Any plans for medicare/medicaid?
I would abolish them, and create one government body to handle it. Free health care for all.
The deficit should be eliminated, but I will accept a planned, controlled period of debt, if necessary.
2. Would you favor or oppose changes in the tax rates?
I would raise the taxes. I would diminish tax deductions, especially for the rich.
3. What about spending cuts or increases and where?
I would increase spending on social programs, environmental programs, educational programs and scientific research.
I would increase the use of technology, especially IT systems within the public sector.
4. Any plans for social security?
Social security for all.
5. Any plans for medicare/medicaid?
I would abolish them, and create one government body to handle it. Free health care for all.
clarsct said:
For the record: I am pro abortion.
clarsct said:
No. It would help if the honored pundit would not only read but also understand what I say. Try again.
clarsct said:
Include all factions in building a strong police force. Get a constitution approved that ensures free elections, no death penalty, equal rights for all, etc. Gradually withdraw troops provided that violence is diminishing. Quid pro quo.
clarsct said:
"The deficit should be eliminated, but I will accept a planned, controlled period of debt, if necessary."
"The reason illegal immigrants are fleeing is because of poverty. So, we have to solve the long-term problem, instead of just knee-jerking. We need to support, with money, with educational programs, with infrastructural programs, etc, the country in question (Mexico, I believe - Canada is probably not a contender), so it can develop a sound society where it shouldn't be necessary to flee to the US in the first place.
Yes, it will take time and money. Yes, it is the most complicated solution of all. Which is why we should choose it. Cue: Kennedy, Moon missions. That ought to invoke the necessary will in the American people. If we can go to the moon, surely we can create a sound country?
Yes, it will mean higher taxes. But we are not just living in the US. We are living in the world, and the US is - no contest - the most powerful nation in the world. If the US is not able or willing to help its neighbours, who is?
I am perfectly aware of how much Christian the US is. But if this isn't being "Christian", what is? I know this much of Christianity, and that is: Selfishness is anathema to Christianity."
I prefer a thorough explanation instead of relying on sound bytes. I know that Americans love a good sound byte, but I'm afraid they won't get that with me. Oversimplications do not solve problems. With me, they get solutions instead.
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clarsct said:
Of course not. I'm suggesting that humans are perfectly good targets. Actually, they are much easier to hit at a distance than cute widdle bunnies. It doesn't matter to me what ethnicity a target has.
BTW, "wetbacks" isn't a very nice term. It's usually derogatory. I would never use such a term myself. I'm more sensitive than that.
We shouldn't exit. We should stay until we can pacify the population enough so that we can turn the whole country into a great big American amusement park, you know, sort of like Disney World, only without the outrageously high prices. Subsidies from the country's oil industry and slave wages paid to the local workers will make this possible. It will be great for the local people, as tourism, rather than terrorism, becomes their predominant industry. It's much more profitable. Everybody wins.
AS
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What are the candidates' opinions on a flat tax, seeing as many feel it could eliminate loopholes that allow the rich to avoid paying a fair percentage of income, while saving on administrative costs? Do you feel that this a good interpretation of the idea, and would you support such a tax if it made it's way to you for signature?
Edited for apostrope use.
Edited for apostrope use.
ranson said:
Flat tax is a bad idea. If the % is too low, the rich make too much money and the state doesn't get enough money. If it is too high, the poor are punished.
What is needed is progressive tax: The more you make, the more you pay in taxes. The poor will pay a pittance (if you're on welfare and have no income, you don't pay anything - it's silly to give with one hand and take with the other), while your taxes increase the more you pay.
Tax is a means to finance the developing of a society. We need to be able to fine-tune the taxes as much as possible, as well as making it fair for all. To achieve this, we need:
- A unique citizen's number for identification in the central tax system
- Free, online tax calculation systems
- Free, online tax reporting systems
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ranson said:
If you feel like paying taxes, you should. My system is voluntary.
Tax collectors also make very good targets. I don't suggest using a .50 cal. I prefer to put them about three miles down range and to practice my skills with the 105 mm Howitzer. It's fun to experiment with the different kinds of rounds. Not everyone should be blown up with a HE round. That gets kind of boring after the first 50 times or so.
In a pinch, a TOWII missile will do, but holding it on target and waiting for the detonation is dull.
AS
shemp said:
This sentiment always bothered me. The song rocks, but the idea is ridiculous on the face of it.
I would be more inclined to trust someone who'd tax the rich till there are no POOR no more. Apart from being a better rhyme, it actually solves a bigger problem than class envy, which seems to be a perpetual staple issue in some circles.
Comments, candidate Shemp?
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Jocko said:
Can't be done. Economic disparity is a fact of civilization and natural resources. There have always been occupations and professions which are in high demand and/or require highly specialized education or skill. Those who engage in them tend to be better compensated than persons in unskilled positions. That's just the way it is.
Also, some persons are more ambitious than others. Some will find a way to accumulate wealth, whereas it may not be important to some others, or some may simply lack skill or luck in doing so. Some will manage money poorly and always live from paycheck to paycheck. Some may inherit wealth or come upon it fortuitously.
Some people are stuck in a poor person's approach to life, for lack of a better way to describe it. Some of those work two or three low paying jobs and still can barely support their families. There may be a number or reasons for that circumstance, but the fact remains that many of such persons will remain poor, even if wealthy persons are taxed out of their wealth. Face it; working in an unskilled position is usually not a fast track to financial success. There are exceptions, but generally an unskilled worker needs to obtain valuable skills in the job marketplace to achieve better financial success. No civilization has managed to eliminate poverty, although some have certainly fared better than others.
Natural resources are unevenly distributed. They always will be. This makes for economic disparity among nations, and within nations as well.
OK, returning to my basic theme and campaign platform, I say the only sure way to eliminate poverty is to eliminate the poor. Shipping them to other countries would work, but it would be expensive and a logistical nightmare. A much simpler solution is to invade poor neighborhoods with M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tanks, and lots of them. Even relatively heavily armed neighborhoods will be no match for 68 tons of steel and depleted uranium. The 120 mm canons do a lot of damage in short order.
AS