Hyper Dimensional Design

[Dutch]

Aren't you celebrating your birthsday on the same day of the year?

On that day Earth is on the same orbital position.

same thing with the other planets

Paul, same question for you: have you noticed the significagance of this 'Pim Fortuyn' expression in June, popping up out of nowhere but confirming the patterns I was talking about?

 

[Paul]

same thing with the other planets

OK, now we're getting somewhere. This implies that your hyperdimesional shapes must be fixed about the earth, meaning that the relationship you describe with the other planets does not exist as all the orbital positions you refer to are about the sun.

Paul, same question for you: have you noticed the significagance of this 'Pim Fortuyn' expression in June, popping up out of nowhere but confirming the patterns I was talking about?

No, for several reasons:

• I don't follow news on dead Dutch politicians hoping to find something I can link to other things
• I don't see how auctioning some personal items is an expression of anything.
• You have yet to demonstrate that there is any pattern to follow.

 

[Blue Mountain]

OK, now we're getting somewhere. This implies that your hyperdimesional shapes must be fixed about the earth, meaning that the relationship you describe with the other planets does not exist as all the orbital positions you refer to are about the sun.

Hi Paul; Dutch and I covered this four months ago. His response was the position of the planets are irrelevant .

Consider the orbits of Mercury and the Earth. Mercury makes a complete revolution of the sun once as the Earth makes 87.9691 rotations on its axis. A particular event occurs on Earth, and then an apparently related event occurs later on. Computing the number of days between the events shows an apparent synchronicity between that number and a multiple of the number of days it takes Mercury to go around the Sun (for example, 1:1, 1:2, 1:4). But due to the different orbital velocities, the position of Mercury with respect to the Earth has no such correlation.

Even if events happen precisely (say) 351.8764 days apart, which is the length of time it takes Mercury to make four complete revolutions around the sun, the Earth has also moved in that time, so things are no longer in the same alignment as when the initial event occurred.

About the only time you could even hint that Mercury might have an effect on events on Earth is when they are aligned, either on the same side of the Sun or the opposite, or perhaps at 90 degree angles. But those events don't happen on 87 or 365 day periods, because both planets are in motion.

Use a planetarium program to position yourself over the Sun's North pole, then watch as Mercury and the Earth orbit. I did that myself, and by using a straightedge to determine when the Sun, Mercury, and Earth were all in a straight line, came up with the following dates:
* 26 Nov 2008
* 28 Jan 2009 (55 days later)
* 20 March 2009 (69 days later)
* 18 May 2009 (49 days later)

His reply:

the actual position relative to Earth is irrelevant, as is the shape of the orbit and the actual 3D position on the orbit. It takes a specific number of Earthday to make a full orbit of the planets. That's it.
It doesn't matter. This is not astrology. I talk about orbits of planets, not as seen from Earth
like I said, thsi has nothing to do with astrology or what it looks like in 3D. I talk about orbits of the rotating elements in our solarssystem, not as seen from Earth or the sun or whatever.

 

[Dutch]

Yes, the actual position as seen from Earth is irrelevant.

I talk about the orbittal positions of the planets around the sun in relation to events in our reality

 

[Paulhoff]

I don’t even know why I’m here, but, the planets are never and never and never in the same place. The sun is moving in orbit around the center of the Milky Way, the Milky Way is itself moving. Nothing is in the same place ever.

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Paul

 

[Paul]

Hi Paul; Dutch and I covered this four months ago

Me too, with similar results:

the platonic solids don't have shape in 3D, their existence is only indirectly detectable by corresponding intersection area's on orbits. The actual 3D position is irrelevant, the platonic solid geometry is still valid.

The reason I brought it up again is because Dutch seems to forget he said things.

 

[Paul]

Yes, the actual position as seen from Earth is irrelevant.

I talk about the orbittal positions of the planets around the sun in relation to events in our reality

At the risk of receiving another non answer, how can the positions be irrelevant if the positions are important?

 

[Blue Mountain]

Yes, the actual position as seen from Earth is irrelevant.
I talk about the orbittal positions of the planets around the sun in relation to events in our reality

If you re-read my original post #1057, I talked about the relative positions of planets as seen from the sun, not from the Earth.

You consistently say that HDD is not about astrology, but you continually talk about "Mercury, the Messenger" How is that not astrology?

 

[Dutch]

I don’t even know why I’m here, but, the planets are never and never and never in the same place. The sun is moving in orbit around the center of the Milky Way, the Milky Way is itself moving. Nothing is in the same place ever.

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Paul

Hi Paulhoff, don't you celebrate your birthsday on the same day?

 

[Dutch]

Me too, with similar results:

The reason I brought it up again is because Dutch seems to forget he said things.

So....? Don't you understand there is no 'shape'?

 

[Paulhoff]

Hi Paulhoff, don't you celebrate your birthsday on the same day?

You are so clueless.

Bye again.

Paul

 

[Dutch]

At the risk of receiving another non answer, how can the positions be irrelevant if the positions are important?

I talk about orbital positions. This something different than astrology

Just like Earth is at the same orbital position every time you celebrate your birthsday, regardless the actual position in the milkyway or the background view. About 224,68 days after your birthsday Venus will be on the same orbittal position again as during your birthsday. etc. for the other planets.

I hope this makes it clear

 

[Dutch]

If you re-read my original post #1057, I talked about the relative positions of planets as seen from the sun, not from the Earth.

You consistently say that HDD is not about astrology, but you continually talk about "Mercury, the Messenger" How is that not astrology?

Astrology? What wrong with Mythology?

 

[Dutch]

You are so clueless.

Bye again.

Paul

later

 

[Paul]

I talk about orbital positions. This something different than astrology

Yes, orbital positions, in this case the positions of orbiting bodies about the sun, being actual positions in actual space.

regardless the actual position in the milkyway or the background view.

Why is this unimportant?

About 224,68 days after your birthsday Venus will be on the same orbittal position again as during your birthsday. etc. for the other planets.

All you're saying is that at the end of it's orbit a planet will be at the beginning of it's orbit again. There is no relationship between a specific event on one planet and the end of the orbital period of another body measured from that event (other than the obvious relative orbital period).

I hope this makes it clear

As usual you seem to be confusing baseless assertion with explanation.

 

[Paul]

So....? Don't you understand there is no 'shape'?

What, no shape to the shapes you use to describe your connections?

 

[Blue Mountain]

If you re-read my original post #1057, I talked about the relative positions of planets as seen from the sun, not from the Earth.

You consistently say that HDD is not about astrology, but you continually talk about "Mercury, the Messenger" How is that not astrology?

Astrology? What wrong with Mythology?

Because here on a skeptics' board mythology has no more weight than astrology.

I note you failed to address my first point.

 

[Dutch]

All you're saying is that at the end of it's orbit a planet will be at the beginning of it's orbit again. There is no relationship between a specific event on one planet and the end of the orbital period of another body measured from that event (other than the obvious relative orbital period).

Well, according to HDDesign there is....and all these 'coincidences' and synchronicities correlating with these relationships seem to confirm.

 

[Dutch]

What, no shape to the shapes you use to describe your connections?

?

reread the explanations of the Hyper Dimensional Platonis solids. They don't have a 'shape', only interference points with orbittal positions .

 

[Dutch]

Because here on a skeptics' board mythology has no more weight than astrology.

So?

I note you failed to address my first point.

Which first point? I don't know what you expect here