Hyper Dimensional Design

[The Man]

No you try some random constants that come to your mind, follow the sunchronicities and share your findings with us. And do that consistently. You can't do that, because you will end up with nothing without delay

I'm already quite familiar with random distributions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_distribution


Even those less familiar to most like...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benford's_law

 

[Daylightstar]

But yet, this specific Pi correlation is there. I don't see the manipulation, its an intelligent correlation that shows up repeatedly

This is your unsubstantiated belief, yes!

 

[Daylightstar]

No. pi is just pi

Except when it isn't:

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If we apply this Pi based design as determined here in the HDDesign material we get:
0,3189102 x Pi x Pi = ......................
Pi !!!!!!!!
...............almost Pi, because Pi / Pi /Pi =0,3183098
This is so very close to expressing Pi ... It shows up just like that after an intuitive thought.

.... you still think it effectively is

 

[Daylightstar]

It is Pi based. And Pi has a fixed value. And the 2 pi points on a timeline as described are based on pi. that's it. If they were based on another value I wouldn't call them Pi-points. get over it

Fixed value? Yes sure, when it isn't pi, you'll fix the value by calling it close enough, in your meaningless non-calculations.

 

[Daylightstar]

But yet, this specific Pi correlation is there. I don't see the manipulation, its an intelligent correlation that shows up repeatedly

And yet, with all your projected absolute confidence, you fail to show it.

 

[Daylightstar]

The working is logged on the timeline

What you write down can be seen by anyone. Why you write it down, not so much.

 

[Daylightstar]

Just provide the requested explanation, Dutch:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8887506&postcount=5943

 

[The Man]

It is Pi based. And Pi has a fixed value. And the 2 pi points on a timeline as described are based on pi. that's it. If they were based on another value I wouldn't call them Pi-points. get over it

Once again your "2 pi points " are based on values other than Pi. These "2 pi points" constant values you have chosen are fixed, by you and again neither is Pi. Just some mathematical manipulation of the singular dimensionless value of Pi, by your own assertion, to get your two constants of simply your own choosing and intuitive use. As already asserted before why not Pi³? Perhaps the fine structure constant or some other dimensionless value that you just give a dimension? Who knows, try them you might like them and expanded your correlations to beyond even your own intuitive imagination.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-structure_constant

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensionless_quantity

However I will tell you again that once your try to give a dimensionless value a dimension (even if just time) or dissociate it from it's mathematical basis (like the ratio of circumference to diameter) it is no longer that dimensionless value but just some random value of your own choosing for whatever "intuitive" reason, also of just your own choosing

 

[Daylightstar]

It is Pi based. And Pi has a fixed value. And the 2 pi points on a timeline as described are based on pi. that's it. If they were based on another value I wouldn't call them Pi-points. get over it

For someone who claims:

... ( I'm a financial manager you know). ...

You have a rather poor grasp of numbers .....

 

[Orphia Nay]

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-apophenia.htm

What is apophenia?

"When someone sees patterns which do not really exist, this is known as apophenia. Apophenia can take a wide range of forms, from thinking that the same number turns up too often to be mere coincidence to seeing a man in the moon. In some cases, apophenia is used as a criteria for the diagnosis of mental illness, but having apophenia does not necessarily imply that someone is mentally ill; many extremely creative people, for example, have demonstrated apophenia.

"One of the most common forms of apophenia involves numbers. Many people are under the impression that a particular number keeps appearing in their lives; 23 is a common choice. They may start seeing that particular number everywhere, either in pure form or in the form of numbers which add up to it. This type of apophenia has often been the subject of films and books which involve cursed numbers.

"[...]Learning to recognize apophenia is important, as it is a good idea to be able to distinguish between true patterns and mere coincidence. This distinction is especially crucial in the sciences, where type I errors can radically skew experiment results, especially when people make subtle adjustments to reinforce their ideas. As a general rule, if you keep noticing the same number, symbol, pattern, sound, or event in your life, it is probably a case of apophenia; you might want to seek out evidence which contradicts your impression of a pattern or connection."

It's like they know Dutch as well as we do.

 

[Dutch]

thinking that the same number turns up too often to be mere coincidence to seeing a man in the moon

Well, I'm not seeing a man in the moon, I'm talking about impact on the moon. Chandryaan, Smart, Centaur, Grail and Deep Impact, all connected by the very same Pi based Design and showing up instantly.

Orphia my dear, you have a habit to doubt my sanity. Not once have you tried to communicate with me at the required level in oder to deal with these delicate subjects at hand. You think you can make a strong case against HDDesign because of the 'support' that you find here, but I have yet to see your fisrt clever remark on this regard.

it is true that you can rationalize everything away as mere coincidence, and almost everyone, would agree with you.

But

That doesn't take away these consistent and repeated intelligent confirmations that show up in the HDDesign material.

Dutch is a pattern seeking animal right?

Probably right

But it does happen and it shows up instantly and consistantly.

You do know Orphia, that I doubt your sincerity, but I'm talking to you as a person

 

[Dutch]

This is your unsubstantiated belief, yes!

my calculator agrees, so....

 

[dafydd]

Well, I'm not seeing a man in the moon, I'm talking about impact on the moon. Chandryaan, Smart, Centaur, Grail and Deep Impact, all connected by the very same Pi based Design and showing up instantly.

How did this alleged Pi design cause them to be launched on the correct dates?

 

[Dutch]

And yet, with all your projected absolute confidence, you fail to show it.

you fail to read it

 

[Dutch]

Once again your "2 pi points " are based on values other than Pi.

Are you nuts? What's the value of Pi that I use than?

 

[Daylightstar]

... all connected by the very same Pi based Design and showing up instantly. ...

Which you continue to fail to substantiate.

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Orphia my dear, you have a habit to doubt my sanity. Not once have you tried to communicate with me at the required level in oder to deal with these delicate subjects at hand. You think you can make a strong case against HDDesign because of the 'support' that you find here, but I have yet to see your fisrt clever remark on this regard....

^{Hilite by Daylightstar}She's not alone in doubting your sanity, you know.
The only delicate issue is the issue of Wildfire.

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Please try to add some level to your contributions

^{Hilite by Daylightstar}
Translation: Please, uncritically accept and talk about my 'intuitions' as if they are real.

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That doesn't take away these consistent and repeated intelligent confirmations that show up in the HDDesign material.
...
But it does happen and it shows up instantly and consistantly.
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Wildfire

What you think you see doesn't exist outside of you, no one else can see 'it'.
This is why you will never be able to truly share with others what you think you see.
And this will never change.

 

[Dutch]

How did this alleged Pi design cause them to be launched on the correct dates?

Wouldn't that depend on the time it takes to impact?

 

[Daylightstar]

my calculator agrees, so....

No, your calculator is not in actual agreement with you.

 

[Orphia Nay]

Well, I'm not seeing a man in the moon, I'm talking about impact on the moon. Chandryaan, Smart, Centaur, Grail and Deep Impact, all connected by the very same Pi based Design and showing up instantly.

Orphia my dear, you have a habit to doubt my sanity. Not once have you tried to communicate with me at the required level in oder to deal with these delicate subjects at hand. You think you can make a strong case against HDDesign because of the 'support' that you find here, but I have yet to see your fisrt clever remark on this regard.

it is true that you can rationalize everything away as mere coincidence, and almost everyone, would agree with you.

But

That doesn't take away these consistent and repeated intelligent confirmations that show up in the HDDesign material.

Dutch is a pattern seeking animal right?

Probably right

But it does happen and it shows up instantly and consistantly.

You do know Orphia, that I doubt your sincerity, but I'm talking to you as a person

You see only what you want to see - that's the whole point.

You missed this bit of my post:

"...having apophenia does not necessarily imply that someone is mentally ill".

Thanks for demonstrating my point, Dutch.

Note: "As a general rule, if you keep noticing the same number, symbol, pattern, sound, or event in your life, it is probably a case of apophenia; you might want to seek out evidence which contradicts your impression of a pattern or connection."

If you start looking for evidence that contradicts your initial impulse, you will find it. See, I just helped you see it. Try helping yourself.

 

[Daylightstar]

you fail to read it

I've read failed lousy attempts.