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The real orbital period of Phobos is 0,3189102 Earth days.
If we apply this Pi based design as determined here in the HDDesign material we get:
0,3189102 x Pi x Pi = ......................
Pi !!!!!!!!
...............almost Pi, because Pi / Pi /Pi =0,3183098
(Bolding mine)

Dutch, please answer these questions:
  1. What, exactly, is "Pi based design"? (Note: it is an automatic fail to say "refer to the materials on another website or blog." Explain it here.)
  2. Why did you decide to apply this "Pi based design" to Phobos?
  3. Did you apply "Pi based design" to Deimos as well? Why or why not?
  4. Phobos orbits Mars. So WHY do you arbitrarily use Earth days here? Please state, in detail and for each one, why you rejected using each of the following in "applying Pi-based design" to Phobos:
    • Mars days
    • Venus days
    • Mercury years
  5. Will you apply "Pi based design" to the other moons of the solar system? Why or why not?

Which one is expressing Pi?
I thought Phobos, and she does
Err, Dutch, moons are in elliptical orbits. They "express" Pi all the time!
 
... I also still have to meet mr Sabet from the TU, there's alot to discuss indeed.

Mohammed Sabet, faculty of civil engineering at the TU Delft. Pyramid-, golden ratio (golden mean)-, emerging geomatric patterns- and living energy guy.
Such is life, there are no guarantees.

Apart from Hoagland, you are leeching off Sabet as well.
 
To add more woo to the fire, all this Pi talk neglects the curious fact the Great Hoagland himself believes the value of Pi can (and will) change, along with physics itself.
 
Orphia, or anybody else...

Since I'm not getting an answer on my request about Phobos's orbital period, I have thrown it out at some places.

It is a very serious question, but I was banned nevertheless again today at BAUT ( for the very simple reason that I refuse to use another personality as myself to post with).
Who is going to answer this request?

I have contacted ESA directly and I truly hope something comes out of it.
 
Looks like Dutch missed this the first time around, so I'll ask it again.

Dutch, please answer these questions:
  1. What, exactly, is "Pi based design"? (Note: it is an automatic fail to say "refer to the materials on another website or blog." Explain it here.)
  2. Why did you decide to apply this "Pi based design" to Phobos?
  3. Did you apply "Pi based design" to Deimos as well? Why or why not?
  4. Phobos orbits Mars. So WHY do you arbitrarily use Earth days here? Please state, in detail and for each one, why you rejected using each of the following in "applying Pi-based design" to Phobos:
    • Mars days
    • Venus days
    • Mercury years
  5. Will you apply "Pi based design" to the other moons of the solar system? Why or why not?
 
Orphia, or anybody else...

I was banned nevertheless again today at BAUT ( for the very simple reason that I refuse to use another personality as myself to post with).

Correction you were a banned person who violated the ban and your thread was locked - what else did you suspect would happen?

Damn a banned person being banned when they post on a forum where they have been told not to post.....amazing, absolutely amazing. LOL

Dutch I suggest you try it 40-50 more times - maybe on one of those times it will turn out differently, LOL
 
Correction you were a banned person who violated the ban and your thread was locked - what else did you suspect would happen?

Damn a banned person being banned when they post on a forum where they have been told not to post.....amazing, absolutely amazing. LOL

Dutch I suggest you try it 40-50 more times - maybe on one of those times it will turn out differently, LOL

"A fanatic is someone who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill
 
Dutch, you've been going on about with HDD for what, five, ten years now? Doesn't the fact that you've convinced no-one in that long time tell you anything? Why do you believe posting the same kind of word salad over and over again might someday get you a different response from people?
 
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I was banned nevertheless again today at BAUT ( for the very simple reason that I refuse to use another personality as myself to post with).
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Looks like that happened before.
Page:
http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/68056-Dutch-is-visiting-the-Amazing-Randi-and-the-JREF-folks. Post #23.
Post:
http://www.bautforum.com/showthread...ndi-and-the-JREF-folks.?p=1569103#post1569103

Where you posted the following under the name "Oost":
09-September-2009 10:38 AM #23 Oost View Profile View Forum Posts
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Dutch is not allowed to post at BAUT forum but he would really like to talk about what has been said here in this thread. He would like to invite posters in this thread to come over at HDDesign forum in this specific thread :

Bad Astronomy and Universe Today forum
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about239-hddesign.html

you can login with 'reader' password 'reader'


So, you appear to be a recidivist.
 
I remember that! I got a PM about that, as did a lot of other people. I remember thinking, "Are you kidding me?". To my knowledge, nobody went. Why bother, right?
 
Dutch said:
During Pi-point Steins timeframe around September 5, 2010, I had this intuitive thought while at work.
I had to work it out so it took some time to post it.
I expected somekind of a 'confirmation' of this Pi-based Design as described here in the HDDesign material. This Pi-based Design unveiled that asteroid Stein's orbit is encoded in Earth's orbit based on Pi, indicating that Stein's orbit is intelligently determined.
This very same Design was also applied with spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi comet encounters and other major events in our solar system as explained here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=10246&mforum=hddesign#10246
As I suspect that there will also occur developments that will indicate that Mars' moon Phobos is infact artificial, I had this thought yesterday to apply this very same Pi based design on the orbit of Phobos.
The real orbital period of Phobos is 0,3189102 Earth days
If we apply this Pi based design as determined here in the HDDesign material we get:
0,3189102 x Pi x Pi = ......................
PI
...............almost Pi, because Pi / Pi /Pi =0,3183098
This is so very close to expressing Pi, in the very same way as already shown here with the orbit of Steins, Deep Impact comet encounters etc, that it can't be just a coincidence. It shows up just like that after an intuitive thought.
In fact the perfect expression of Pi with the orbit of Phobos is so close that the difference is even less than a minute. 51,87 seconds to be precise,based on available info.
It is known that Phobos has an orbital decay. According to a mainstream space agency, the ESA:
This tiny moon is thought to be in a ‘death spiral’, slowly orbiting toward the surface of Mars. Here, Phobos was found to be about five kilometres ahead of its predicted orbital position. This could be an indication of an increased orbital speed associated with its secular acceleration, causing the moon to spiral in toward Mars.
Eventually Phobos could be torn apart by Martian gravity and become a short-lived ring around Mars, or even impact on the surface. This orbit will be studied in more detail over the lifetime of the Mars Express.
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEM21TVJD1E_0.html

The orbital speed of Phobos is about 2.138 km/s so with this 5 kilometer deviation with the calculated position, Phobos is already 5 / 2.138 = aprox 2,34 seconds closing in on the perfect Pi expression.
That means that Phobos isn't only orbitting in an intelligently determined orbit, but that Phobos is in fact telling us that there's a specific future point in time that Phobos will express the Perfect Pi.
The orbit of Phobos is showing us a countdown which we can determine.
Now I am not a scientist nor do I have the proper data to do this, but I'm calling those who are able to do so to determine the exact moment in the near future that Phobos will have closed the gap of these less than 50 seconds so that the orbit of Phobos is expressing the perfect PI.
New astrometric observations of Phobos with the SRC on Mars Express
K. Willner, J. Oberst, M. Wählisch, K.-D. Matz, H. Hoffmann, T. Roatsch, R. Jaumann, and V. Mertens
German Aerospace Center, Institute of Planetary Research, Planetary Geodesy, Rutherfordstrasse 2, 12489 Berlin, Germany
e-mail: [email protected]
Received 17 March 2008 / Accepted 20 May 2008
Abstract
Aims. New astrometric measurements for Phobos are reported on the basis of 69 SRC (Super Resolution Channel) images obtained during 28 Mars Express Phobos flybys executed between 2004 and 2007.
Methods. The measurements have been made using a newly developed technique that involves positional measurements of surface control points and verification of camera pointing by background stars.
Results. The astrometric positions are in excellent agreement with currently available Phobos orbit models. However, we find remaining systematic offsets of 1.5-2.6 km such that Phobos is ahead of its predicted position along the track.Conclusions. Our observations will be a basis for further improvements in the Phobos ephemeris. The methods that we have developed will be useful for the astrometric tracking of planetary or asteroidal targets and spacecraft optical navigation in future planetary missions.

http://www.aanda.org/index.php?opti...full/2008/34/aa09787-08/aa09787-08.right.html
(„Phobos ahead of its predicted orbital position by approx. 1 radius“,Bell, Duxbury, et al., Nature")
HRSC/SRC Imaging Results fromthe Phobos and Deimos Flybys
Results:
Phobos estimated to be off from its nominal orbitposition by 6 s (approx. 12 km) along-track
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...rbital+period+phobos&cd=2&hl=nl&ct=clnk&gl=nl
Used Orbital period in this scientific artical: (days)0.31910
According to wiki 'current' orbital period of Phobos is 0,3189102 Earth days
That's a gap of 16,39 seconds !!!!!!!
Phobos is nearing the Perfect Pi expression
Phobos is at countdown
At another forum someone provided me with info about this decreasing orbital period of Phobos that , when extrapolated, suggested that Phobos would reach the perfect Pi expression with the orbital period on December 18, 2012. Based on the data provided by this poster.
That would mean Phobos is marking the end of the Mayan Calendar.
I don't trust the info given by this poster because I think he just wanted to mislead me, but it is an interesting thought.
With such deviations in the orbital period of Phobos it IS a possibility
Additional information and confirmation is needed in order to determine when Phobos will reach the Perfect Pi.
Let's hope the analysis of the recent Phobos flyby's will shine a light on it
 
What, exactly, is "Pi based design"? (Note: it is an automatic fail to say "refer to the materials on another website or blog." Explain it here.)
Blue, I have explained it here in this thread. I have described it with the ( scheduled ) comet encounters with spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi and the Earth-Moon-Epoxi transit. I have described it with the moon impacts, I have described it with the orbit of asteroid Steins here earlier this year. Its in the 'communication' posts here ( January 2010 ). And now with Phobos.

What exactly do you not understand about how Pi has been applied here?
 
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Why did you decide to apply this "Pi based design" to Phobos?

Because it just came to mind as an intuitive thought to do so. It happened while at work on the day corresponding with Pi-point Steins.

I was busy at work so I had to check it at home later that day and the Pi correlation instantly showed up.

This kind of intuitive 'developments' happen all the time in this HDDesign research.
 
Did you apply "Pi based design" to Deimos as well? Why or why not?

The intuitive thought was about this Pi correlation applied on Phobos, not on Deimos. With this instant confirmation with Phobos I'm ofcourse also curious about Deimos. I checked Deimos directly after the discovery of this Pi connectin with Phobos, but Deimos doesn't express this kind of Pi based design but I don't rule out that the orbit of Deimos is also showing indications of intelligent correlations, together with Phobos and/or Mars for instance.
Something to keep an eye on indeed, maybe it will show up once.
 
Phobos orbits Mars. So WHY do you arbitrarily use Earth days here? Please state, in detail and for each one, why you rejected using each of the following in "applying Pi-based design" to Phobos:
Mars days, Venus days, Mercury years

We are Earthlings aren't we? If Phobos is showing this Intelligent design in its orbit than its designed this way for us to discover. Its a mean of 'communication'. If we would have lived on Venus, than Phobos would have had a different orbit in order to draw our attention.
 
Will you apply "Pi based design" to the other moons of the solar system? Why or why not?

Its not what came to mind yet, but maybe its an interesting thing to do.
If it would appear that an object in space shows indications of artificial or intelligent design, be it a moon or asteroid ( like Steins ) or whatever, I would certainly give it a look yes. Doesn't have to be based on this same Pi based design
 
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