Hyper Dimensional Design

[Dutch]

After all this time, you can't spout the equations used? Just post whatever calculations you are using at the moment because there is no way I'm wading through this ridiculous thread to find out you do it all by "feelings".

You are wasting your time by commenting here without even reading it. you will never get it

 

[dafydd]

Since its not about exact predictions....Why are you keep on saying that? short memory?

We already know that it's not about predictions,that has become very clear.

 

[dafydd]

You are wasting your time by commenting here without even reading it. you will never get it

I don't want to catch what you've got.

 

[The Man]

What has changed is that in the past, I didn't accept the possibility that a concept like HDDesign and all its implications could be valid. All the 'coincidences' and synchronicities made me change my mind. I had to accept it, I couldn't deny these possibilities anymore. The indications where overwhelming so I had to change my rigid perspective.

Don’t you see Dutch; you haven’t changed your “rigid perspective” at all? Your “rigid perspective” was that your intuition that you "knew it all" and “had a very skeptical mind” was correct and you still have that “rigid perspective” of your “intuition” being correct. All you have done is develop some techniques to help you feel more comfortable in your “rigid perspective” about your “intuition”.

 

[The Man]

The Man:



Hoaglands material indeed, but also Wilcock and articles from Russian scientists etc. Appliying these HD Physics elements on our perception of time is what I do, not what I think. You may call it otherwise, that's fine with me

So you can’t show that you’ve read anything actually dealing with hyper dimensions let alone physics in more than three dimensions? Heck, can you even show that you understand physics in just one or more dimensions?

The first thing that showed up when I firts applied this HD Tertrahedron yes. You might think my "underdstanding of reality" hasn't improved at all, but you will understand that I think exactly the opposite.

Yes we know you “think exactly the opposite” and that is exactly what demonstrates that your “"underdstanding of reality" hasn't improved at all” because that is exactly what you thought before, that your “intuition” was correct.

Its the application of this HDD 'nonsense' ( as you call it)that unleashed these 'coincidences' and synchronicities. I couldn't ingnore that.

Yet you still ignore that they are simply your “'coincidences' and synchronicities” that you deliberately create?

NO the Man, the continued 'confirmations' in the material are showing that I'm on the right track, you are just denying it over and over again. I think that's rather stupid, because you have to face it sooner or later. You can't rationalize it away because it won't go away. Its true and I wiil continue to show you the indications.

Dutch, you thought you were on “the right track” before when you thought you "knew it all" and “had a very skeptical mind”, you were wrong. You still are and all that has changed is that you have made yourself happy with your “intuition” now where you claim you were not before. I certainly don’t knock you for being happy in whatever you do, but don’t kid yourself into thinking that just because you have made yourself happier believing your “intuition” now that you are any more correct than before when you now believe your “intuition” was incorrect. “I think that's rather stupid, because you have to face it sooner or later. You can't rationalize it away because it won't go away. Its true and I wiil continue to show you the indications”.

 

[The Man]

neither

What do you mean neither, you explicitly stated before that you were “indeed” reading “Hoaglands material”? Again can you demonstrate in any way that you understand what constitutes a dimension or the formulization of physics in four or more dimensions?

 

[Halfcentaur]

Dutch, are you familiar with any students attending TU Delft that are interested in studying quantum coherence, control and measurement in solid-state superconducting nanoelectronics as a potential candidate for scalable quantum computation, Josephson junction dynamics, high performance computing, and adaptive quantum networks?

 

[Dutch]

Dutch, are you familiar with any students attending TU Delft that are interested in studying quantum coherence, control and measurement in solid-state superconducting nanoelectronics as a potential candidate for scalable quantum computation, Josephson junction dynamics, high performance computing, and adaptive quantum networks?

No, I do know a TU delft researcher but with a different field of interest.

During Pi-point Steins timeframe around September 5, 2010, I had this intuitive thought while at work.
I had to work it out so it took some time to post it.
I expected somekind of a 'confirmation' of this Pi-based Design as described here in the HDDesign material. This Pi-based Design unveiled that asteroid Stein's orbit is encoded in Earth's orbit based on Pi, indicating that Stein's orbit is intelligently determined.
This very same Design was also applied with spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi comet encounters and other major events in our solar system as explained here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=10246&mforum=hddesign#10246
As I suspect that there will also occur developments that will indicate that Mars' moon Phobos is infact artificial, I had this thought earlier today to apply this very same Pi based design on the orbit of Phobos.
The real orbital period of Phobos is 0,3189102 Earth days
If we apply this Pi based design as determined here in the HDDesign material we get:
0,3189102 x Pi x Pi = ......................
Pi !!!!!!!!
...............almost Pi, because Pi / Pi /Pi =0,3183098
This is so very close to expressing Pi, in the very same way as already shown here with the orbit of Steins, Deep Impact comet encounters etc, that it can't be just a coincidence. It shows up just like that after an intuitive thought.
In fact the perfect expression of Pi with the orbit of Phobos is so close that the difference is even less than a minute. 51,87 seconds to be precise,based on available info.
It is known that Phobos has an orbital decay. According to a mainstream space agency, the ESA:

This tiny moon is thought to be in a ‘death spiral’, slowly orbiting toward the surface of Mars. Here, Phobos was found to be about five kilometres ahead of its predicted orbital position. This could be an indication of an increased orbital speed associated with its secular acceleration, causing the moon to spiral in toward Mars.
Eventually Phobos could be torn apart by Martian gravity and become a short-lived ring around Mars, or even impact on the surface. This orbit will be studied in more detail over the lifetime of the Mars Express.

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEM21TVJD1E_0.html

The orbital speed of Phobos is about 2.138 km/s so with this 5 kilometer deviation with the calculated position, Phobos is already 5 / 2.138 = aprox 2,34 seconds closing in on the perfect Pi expression.
That means that Phobos isn't only orbitting in an intelligently determined orbit, but that Phobos is in fact telling us that there's a specific future point in time that Phobos will express the Perfect Pi.
The orbit of Phobos is showing us a countdown which we can determine.
Now I am not a scientist nor do I have the proper data to do this, but I'm calling those who are able to do so to determine the exact moment in the near future that Phobos will have closed the gap of these less than 50 seconds so that the orbit of Phobos is expressing the perfect PI.

 

[Daylightstar]

As I suspect that there will also occur developments that will indicate that Mars' moon Phobos is infact artificial,

Ah, you're trying to steal Hoagland's thunder.

Pi !!!!!!!!

Ofcourse about 1/3 of Pi x Pi will get you around Pi. There's nothing surpising about that. There's also nothing very meaningful about it.

Now I am not a scientist

This you have clearly demonstrated.

nor do I have the proper data to do this,

Be more honest Dutch, if you did have the proper data you would still not be able to do this.

And all this for a thought out of nowhere that resembles 1/3 x 3 x 3.
You're such a mathematical wizard.

 

[Paul]

No, I do know a TU delft researcher but with a different field of interest.

OK, but of course that's not as interesting as making stuff up...

I expected somekind of a 'confirmation' of this Pi-based Design as described here in the HDDesign material.

The first problem is that you idea of expressing Pi is silly to begin with:

"In order to 'express' Pi between 2 events you have to devide the timeframe in between twice with Pi. Than you have to deduct that result from the timeframe and devide the remaining by 2. Add the result to one of this halfs and you get 2 points in between that express Pi together."

This Pi-based Design unveiled that asteroid Stein's orbit is encoded in Earth's orbit based on Pi, indicating that Stein's orbit is intelligently determined.

Are we just supposed to take your word for such a ludicrous claim?

As I suspect that there will also occur developments that will indicate that Mars' moon Phobos is infact artificial,

What in the name of Zod would give you that idea?

I had this thought earlier today to apply this very same Pi based design on the orbit of Phobos.

Go on...

The real orbital period of Phobos is 0,3189102 Earth days
If we apply this Pi based design as determined here in the HDDesign material we get:
0,3189102 x Pi x Pi = ......................

And of course you immediately run into a problem and proceed to fudge the numbers to pretend they are meaningful.

Pi is a precise number, it is not 3.1475174

Pi !!!!!!!!

No, not pi, not close to pi.

...............almost Pi, because Pi / Pi /Pi =0,3183098

No, not almost pi. Anyway you said that

"In order to 'express' Pi between 2 events you have to devide the timeframe in between twice with Pi. Than you have to deduct that result from the timeframe and devide the remaining by 2. Add the result to one of this halfs and you get 2 points in between that express Pi together."

Whereas what you did was multiply the timeframe twice by pi and then forget to do the subtraction and division. If you're going to not do science, at least don't do it according to your own rules.

This is so very close to expressing Pi, in the very same way as already shown here with the orbit of Steins, Deep Impact comet encounters etc, that it can't be just a coincidence. It shows up just like that after an intuitive thought.

And there is the whole problem: you decided on an outcome and were not prepared to find fault with it, to the point of ignoring your own method and drawing obviously false conclusions.

In fact the perfect expression of Pi with the orbit of Phobos is so close that the difference is even less than a minute.

OK, so Phobos doesn't express pi, and you can't be bothered to learn enough to find out when it will but you expect others to do it for you.

What you have obviously failed to consider is that if the orbit is decaying, the point at which it 'expresses' pi will be as fleeting and meaningless as the point at which it expresses any other number.

 

[Halfcentaur]

My brother goes to TU Delft, and that's what he is interested in and researching. He is partial to what you're describing here, I bet you two would get along well over some beers and a chat.

 

[Blue Mountain]

Applying a reductio ad absurdumapproach here ...

So the tiny moon Phobos has a role to play in Hyper Dimensional Design.

What parts do Metis, Adrastea, Amalthea, Thebe, Io, Europa, Ganymede, Callisto, Themisto, Leda, Himalia, Lysithea, Elara, Carpo, Euporie, Thelxinoe,Euanthe, Helike, Orthosie, Iocaste, Praxidike, Harpalyke, Mneme,Hermippe, Thyone, Ananke, Herse, Aitne, Kale, Taygete, Chaldene, Erinome, Aoede, Kallichore, Kalyke, Carme, Callirrhoe, Eurydome, Pasithee, Kore, Cyllene, Eukelade, Pasiphaë, Hegemone, Arche, Isonoe, Sinope, Sponde, Autonoe, Megaclite, Pandora, Epimetheus, Janus, Aegaeon, Mimas, Methone, Anthe, Pallene, Enceladus, Tethys, Telesto, Calypso, , Dione, Helene, Polydeuces, Rhea, Titan, Hyperion, Iapetus, Kiviuq, Ijiraq, Phoebe, Paaliaq, Skathi, Albiorix, Bebhionn, Erriapus, Skoll, Siarnaq, Tarqeq, Greip, Hyrrokkin, Jarnsaxa, Tarvos, Mundilfari, Bergelmir, Narvi, Suttungr, Hati, Farbauti, Thrymr, Aegir, Bestla, Fenrir, Surtur, Kari, Ymir, Loge, Fornjot, Cordelia, Ophelia, Bianca, Cressida, Desdemona, Juliet, Portia, Rosalind, Cupid, Belinda, Perdita, Puck, Mab, Miranda, Ariel, Umbriel, Titania, Oberon, Francisco, Caliban, Stephano, Trinculo, Sycorax, Margaret, Prospero, Setebos, Ferdinand, Naiad, Thalassa, Despina, Galatea, Larissa, Proteus, Triton, Nereid, Halimede, Sao, Laomedeia, Psamathe, and Neso play?

 

[Chris L]

Applying a reductio ad absurdum approach here ...

How do you do that to a concept that is already at the ad absurdum stage?

 

[Daylightstar]

Applying a reductio ad absurdumapproach here ...

So the tiny moon Phobos has a role to play in Hyper Dimensional Design.

What parts do many many many others play?

Italics by Daylightstar

Probably depending on whether Dutch's god, Hoagland, has assigned any meaning to any one of them.

 

[Dutch]

Applying a reductio ad absurdumapproach here ...

So the tiny moon Phobos has a role to play in Hyper Dimensional Design.

What parts do Metis, Adrastea, Amalthea, Thebe, Io, Europa, Ganymede, Callisto, Themisto, Leda, Himalia, Lysithea, Elara, Carpo, Euporie, Thelxinoe,Euanthe, Helike, Orthosie, Iocaste, Praxidike, Harpalyke, Mneme,Hermippe, Thyone, Ananke, Herse, Aitne, Kale, Taygete, Chaldene, Erinome, Aoede, Kallichore, Kalyke, Carme, Callirrhoe, Eurydome, Pasithee, Kore, Cyllene, Eukelade, Pasiphaë, Hegemone, Arche, Isonoe, Sinope, Sponde, Autonoe, Megaclite, Pandora, Epimetheus, Janus, Aegaeon, Mimas, Methone, Anthe, Pallene, Enceladus, Tethys, Telesto, Calypso, , Dione, Helene, Polydeuces, Rhea, Titan, Hyperion, Iapetus, Kiviuq, Ijiraq, Phoebe, Paaliaq, Skathi, Albiorix, Bebhionn, Erriapus, Skoll, Siarnaq, Tarqeq, Greip, Hyrrokkin, Jarnsaxa, Tarvos, Mundilfari, Bergelmir, Narvi, Suttungr, Hati, Farbauti, Thrymr, Aegir, Bestla, Fenrir, Surtur, Kari, Ymir, Loge, Fornjot, Cordelia, Ophelia, Bianca, Cressida, Desdemona, Juliet, Portia, Rosalind, Cupid, Belinda, Perdita, Puck, Mab, Miranda, Ariel, Umbriel, Titania, Oberon, Francisco, Caliban, Stephano, Trinculo, Sycorax, Margaret, Prospero, Setebos, Ferdinand, Naiad, Thalassa, Despina, Galatea, Larissa, Proteus, Triton, Nereid, Halimede, Sao, Laomedeia, Psamathe, and Neso play?

Which one is expressing Pi?

I thought Phobos, and she does

 

[Dutch]

My brother goes to TU Delft, and that's what he is interested in and researching. He is partial to what you're describing here, I bet you two would get along well over some beers and a chat.

Who knows we shall meet one day. I also still have to meet mr Sabet from the TU, there's alot to discuss indeed.

 

[Paul]

Which one is expressing Pi?

I thought Phobos, and she does

You said Phobos doesn't, do try to keep up with yourself.

 

[Dutch]

How do you do that to a concept that is already at the ad absurdum stage?

Do you think so?

science is catching up, the ideas of reverse causality are getting momentum:


a must read:

Back From the Future

A series of quantum experiments shows that measurements performed in the future can influence the present. Does that mean the universe has a destiny—and the laws of physics pull us inexorably toward our prewritten fate?
http://discovermagazine.com/2010/apr/01-back-from-the-future/article_view?searchterm=Tollaksen&b_start:int=0

 

[Paul]

Do you think so?

Well, your arguments are clearly absurd, which is what you appear to believe Chris L said and what Chris may have deliberately implied. Your argument was also reduced to the absurd by Blue Mountain which is what Chris L was referring to.

science is catching up, the ideas of reverse causality are getting momentum:

Don't even think about pretending that this is what you have been trying to say.

It is surprising that you have waited this long to invoke quantum mechanics, a subject which you will know little to nothing about.

 

[Paul]

a must read:

I've just done something which you obviously haven't and read the article. While I don't understand the physics - especially how deflecting lasers with a mirror relates to quantum mechanics - I can read the conclusions, deliberately fuzzy as they are.