Hyper Dimensional Design

[Dutch]

I've asked Dutch to lay out his prediction creation process years ago. This is as close as you'll ever get, and it is utterly meaningless. He'll spend all day and all night making a plethora of random predictions, but will absolutely refuse to fully explain his process (or even the terms he's invented ) so that others can test it. Instead, he expects us to take his own "testing" at face value. I've spent quite a bit of time trying to explain that that isn't sufficient. Sadly, testing "HDD" has never even gotten to step one. I'd even go so far as to predict it never will.

Mr Earl, you don't seem to understand that your common methods to test it are insufficient. This is about intuitive knowledge and synchronicities in the first place. It doesn't happen at will, it just emerges and I can only show the validity to other people by posting the future expectations.
I barely spend time anymore on this 'hddesign research'. I have done the most work years ago. My current understanding of the HDDesign concept enables me to identify and understand the correlations quickly. When a synchronicity occurs I just login and post. There's no standard procedure and there's no endless seeking for connections. I take it as it comes, while there's always something happening that seems to confirm the given indications of hidden underlying Design

 

[Mister Earl]

Mr Earl, you don't seem to understand that your common methods to test it are insufficient.

You don't even know what those methods are. How are you fit to judge them in this instance?

This is about intuitive knowledge and synchronicities in the first place. It doesn't happen at will, it just emerges and I can only show the validity to other people by posting the future expectations.

That's called confirmation bias and pareiolia. Meaningless until you prove otherwise, and your current methods are insufficient for this task.

I barely spend time anymore on this 'hddesign research'. I have done the most work years ago.

You sure spend a lot of time posting your predictions. Use some of that time on step 1.

My current understanding of the HDDesign concept enables me to identify and understand the correlations quickly. When a synchronicity occurs I just login and post. There's no standard procedure and there's no endless seeking for connections. I take it as it comes, while there's always something happening that seems to confirm the given indications of hidden underlying Design

So basically, you have no form or method, and you post things as they pop in your head? How is that different than utterly random predictions?

 

[Paul]

If I expect an event to happen that expresses the underlying theme of a cometary ( or asteroid) impact from out of space ( which is Tunguska) more than a year in advance and when that timeframe comes we are witnessing a cometary impact ( or asteroid) on Jupiter than it happens only in my mind?

Well, the first thing I would say is "it hit Jupiter, that's quite a long way".

The second thing would be "Jupiter isn't earth and it apparently receives the most comet impacts of all the planets".

Then I would say "what part of a big rock hitting a planet 4.2 AU away could possibly be construed as an intelligently designed expression of anything earthly?"

 

[Paul]

They don't have 3 dimensional shape in our reality, only the correlating orbital positions remain as explained before

Which, as has been explained before, is utterly meaningless.

If you can't explain what you are talking about without contradicting yourself or just plain making stuff up, how do you expect anyone to understand what you are doing?

 

[dafydd]

Sigh.....don't you understand this is irrelevant? The karma is played out as identified, showing us that we ARE responsible. The problem is that most of us are way to rigid to even consider the possibility

Prove to me that karma exists.No HDD crap please.

 

[dafydd]

That's not true is it?

We've just been given an example of you waiting 3 years to find something you could claim as a hit.

All we've had so far are old news bulletins.Not very impressive.

 

[Daylightstar]

If I expect an event to happen that expresses the underlying theme of a cometary ( or asteroid) impact from out of space ( which is Tunguska) more than a year in advance and when that timeframe comes we are witnessing a cometary impact ( or asteroid) on Jupiter than it happens only in my mind?

Your reference to a mental patient only unveils your lack of development

Look, says the mental patient, as he stretches his arms while standing on a chair while slightly bending his knees.
I am an airplane. It's true.
If I were not, I wouldn't be doing this.

 

[Daylightstar]

Hey, why should Dutch be the only one with fantasies? I would like nothing better than he actually knew what he was talking about.

Good point

 

[Daylightstar]

First there's an intuitive thought ... there's no fixed way to deal with it ...

Wishy washy. Mush.
All starting in Dutch's head ("intuitive thought") becoming ... anything he likes (no fixed way to deal with it).

 

[Daylightstar]

... ( that means mathematically etc.). ...

But you don't know mathematics, bit strange you talk about it as if you know mathematics.

 

[Hans]

I didn't knew you were a kid

A child would know you are just playing with your imaginative playthings. An adult just sees a guys making stuff up and slowly, very slowly sliding into insanity.

Dutch's nonsense continues unabated

Oh my he's associated himself with Hoaxland. Now there is a shining example of logic, reason and a prime example of

Self-delusion

Are those who are self-deluded attracted to one another?

Oh yes Dutch a question you forgot to answer - a basic contradiction in what you have claimed

You claim that HDD is non-scientific yet you are posting this on a science sub-forum...why?

 

[The Man]

I don't think I understand your questions here. The determination of a HD Tetrahedron has been discussed here but I don't think you are referring to the given explanation. I am lost on your 11 years remark in relation to my 'research'.

I don't think you understand a tetrahedron. What I am referring to is that your “given explanation” and evident calculations do not in fact involve a tetrahedron.

Here is the question I asked again.

When exactly did you start this HDD ‘research’ Dutch? What I mean is what was the first news story that got you looking for some synchronicity as a contributing factor. That might tell us a lot.

You say you started 20 years ago, that puts it at about 1990, then you refer to 9/11/2001, 11 years later.

They don't have 3 dimensional shape in our reality, only the correlating orbital positions remain as explained before

A tetrahedron is specifically a “3 dimensional shape” that you don’t want it to have a “3 dimensional shape in” your “reality” is just your problem and again confirms that your “Tetrahedron based timecoded spiral” involves neither a tetrahedron nor a spiral.

 

[The Man]

No you have not demonstrated. You can do so by trying to do the same thing and compare it with my 'research' based on HDDesign.

Do it for an extended period of time

You will not succeed

You do not succeed, and that is the point nether interpretation is supported any better than the other by you dimensional design hype.

Synchronicities just happen, they aren't ( consciously ) created.
As the correlations are all shared when they show up, everybody can make up their own interpretations. I share mine based on continued monitoring.

Your calculations are “( consciously ) created” by you, thus so too are your Synchronicities and interpretations. Yes “everybody can make up their own interpretations” and none are supported over another by your “Synchronicities” so they support no particular interpretation, other than being meaningless.

Sigh.....don't you understand this is irrelevant? The karma is played out as identified, showing us that we ARE responsible. The problem is that most of us are way to rigid to even consider the possibility

Don’t you understand your assertion before about “The people who we have chosen to lead us” and now about “The karma is played out” are irrelevant? Once again your presumption is that “we ARE responsible” by “karma” and you simply infer that since things happen it is due to your “karma” and thus “we ARE responsible” by “karma”. It’s called circular reasoning Dutch, as well as begging the question.

Yes we do have a shared responsibility, that's what the patterns unveil.

No Dutch that is simply your presumption.

You should come to the same conclusion if you really took the time to investigate and open up your mind

Dutch your “conclusion” was predetermined by your presumption. That others do not take the same presumption does not mean they aren’t open minded or don’t take time to investigate . That is called the no true Scotsman fallacy.

 

[Daylightstar]

...
You claim that HDD is non-scientific yet you are posting this on a science sub-forum...why?

My guess would be, for the same reason as he refers to his unsupported writings with the word research within single quotation marks: 'research'.

Closely tied to his habit of constructing sciency sounding sentences using all kinds of pretty and impressive sounding words.

 

[Hans]

My guess would be, for the same reason as he refers to his unsupported writings with the word research within single quotation marks: 'research'.

Closely tied to his habit of constructing sciency sounding sentences using all kinds of pretty and impressive sounding words.

Yes he does like the big word babble. I have noted that over the years his ability to communicate effectively has declined. Less able to handle the stress of supporting an unsuportable position. In otherwords he's starting to crack up.

 

[recursive prophet]

I've only read about 10 pages of this tome over time. My interest in HDD is quite minimal, but I am curious about the social dynamics in play here. Trying to see it and similar threads from a cyber-cultural anthro perspective. Toward this end, it would be greatly appreciated if some of the regulars could make some response to my questions below.

1. What percentage of the posts here (roughly) were made by Dutch?
2. If you totally disagree with the OP and think the way Dutch defends it is based solely on fallacies such as circular argumentation/begging the question etc., what keeps you coming back for more?
3. Looking back on your participation in this discussion, do you feel it was time well spent or not? Reasons for either choice would be quite helpful.

My apologies to any who consider the above questions a derail. From what I've read, IMHO most of this debate comes down to a kind of semantical glasperlenspiel anyway, so I'm hoping this attempt to grok what motivates the participants won't be considered too disruptive. Thanks for any help you can render.

 

[Hans]

I've only read about 10 pages of this tome over time. My interest in HDD is quite minimal, but I am curious about the social dynamics in play here. Trying to see it and similar threads from a cyber-cultural anthro perspective. Toward this end, it would be greatly appreciated if some of the regulars could make some response to my questions below.

1. What percentage of the posts here (roughly) were made by Dutch?
2. If you totally disagree with the OP and think the way Dutch defends it is based solely on fallacies such as circular argumentation/begging the question etc., what keeps you coming back for more?
3. Looking back on your participation in this discussion, do you feel it was time well spent or not? Reasons for either choice would be quite helpful.

My apologies to any who consider the above questions a derail. From what I've read, IMHO most of this debate comes down to a kind of semantical glasperlenspiel anyway, so I'm hoping this attempt to grok what motivates the participants won't be considered too disruptive. Thanks for any help you can render.

Howdy RP

Not at all!

Having seen Dutch's spamming on multiple boards with same bombastic materials I note to new posters that they are wasting their time and will not be getting any straight answers. He is - unfortunately the intellectual equivalent of an Uncle Remus tar baby.

As someone interested in fringe thought. I find Dutch's slow decline interests me and I check his multiple threads to see his slow disintegration.

Kinda like reading about failed political, scientific and military ideas- a study in the human ability to support to the end doomed concepts.

 

[Daylightstar]

1: Ask Hans However, Dutch returns volleys of mostly contentless messages, so it might be a high percentage.

2 and 3: Consider Dutch a specimen, or an exhibit. To see what this exhibit is all about you need to poke it, repeatedly. It's dullnes is so intens, it amazes everytime.
When not poked the exhibit would just be a defecation exhibit, hence the poking.
Tedious job, but someone has to do it.

 

[Dutch]

So any actually possibility of a genuine chance of real responsibility is irrelevant?

? I meant if they vote or not. You don't have to vote in order to care about something.

Do please explain how this wonderful karma of yours seeks to ascribe blame to people who could in no way have had any influence on the outcome of events for which they may not have even had the first clue about the possibility of existence.

These 'dark' expressions are happening because they 'reflect' what we really are in our deepest essence. We are making the same mistakes over and over again because we think we have nothing to do with it. We are co-creating these expressions and we can all equally contribute to a more 'subtle' reality. Everybody can make this difference, not only with what you do, but also how you think about it and what we feel. A 'better' reality starts with our own contribution.

 

[Dutch]

The President of the United States of America, that guy you think should probably be shot for not stopping something he couldn't influence.

Nor did Pim Fortuyn or Theo van Gogh in your line of thought, but they were both assassinated.

They were 'caught by surprise' because we were unaware of the underlying themes that were to find expression. The objective is to make our reality more subtle, so by identifying the underlying themes in advance, the 'high impact' expression will be transferred into a nore subtle one. Instead of being killed, an alternative 'security issue' will find its way to express ( which actually did happen at least 8 times in a row with Obama as explained here in this thread)