Hyper Dimensional Design
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Note to right wing types, there is a very clear limit on the kind of things the Dutch will tolerate.
That might actually be useful, what he really did was find one that had already happened and tell us about it.
June 26 2010 a Full Moon opposite the Sun joins this amazing aspect around the Earth."
But that's not all........
This is similar in reversed form to the Tsunami aspects of December 2004
now with Mercury the Messenger at same orbital position as during The Grand Cross Aligbment of August 18, 1999, we have again 2 'as above - so below' expressions. A powerful 8.3 quake followed by a tsunami 'so below' and an actual flyby of spacecraft Messenger of planet Mercury!
NASA Spacecraft Closes in on Mercury for Flyby
http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...ird-flyby.html
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another one: Tsunami warning following Indonesia quake
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/as...ake/index.html
The quake was along the same fault line that spawned the 2004 Asian tsunami that killed more than 230,000 people in a dozen countries.
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Gee, two earthquakes happened along the same faultline... what are the odds???
And this is "significant" because one of those earthquakes happened when certain celestial bodies are in the opposite position to where they will be in two years time?
Wow! I'm overwhelmed!
But that's not all........
This is similar in reversed form to the Tsunami aspects of December 2004
now with Mercury the Messenger at same orbital position as during The Grand Cross Aligbment of August 18, 1999, we have again 2 'as above - so below' expressions. A powerful 8.3 quake followed by a tsunami 'so below' and an actual flyby of spacecraft Messenger of planet Mercury!
NASA Spacecraft Closes in on Mercury for Flyby
http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...ird-flyby.html
and
another one: Tsunami warning following Indonesia quake
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/as...ake/index.html
The quake was along the same fault line that spawned the 2004 Asian tsunami that killed more than 230,000 people in a dozen countries.
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Gee, two earthquakes happened along the same faultline... what are the odds???
And this is "significant" because one of those earthquakes happened when certain celestial bodies are in the opposite position to where they will be in two years time?
Wow! I'm overwhelmed!
The Man
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Of course to remain consistent with Dutch’s Singular Dimensional Design Hype you must tell us what dates and orbital positions you can correlate it to after it happens. As expected feel free to alter your timeframes, reference dates and ascribed astrological sounding names (like “Jupiter storm king”) as needed until something actually happens.
Dutch
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the orbital positions of the grand cross were already given, marked by the December 26, 2004 Sumatra quake / Tsunami
It is because of Mercury that would take the same orbital position again around September 29 that I have put this on the timeline a priory
Did you notice something that could be a similar expression of the Sumatra quake- tsunami?
Do not ignore
its all already there in the HDDesign material, you just don't want to see it.
its a free choice
Where did you get your information about a grand cross on December 26 2004?
Wrong again, the nearest whole number of mercury orbital periods is 20, approximately 21-22 days away from your date.
Did you mean a priori or a priority at the end of the sentence?
No, because it's in your head.
Do you see where there is a problem with what you wrote there?
The Man
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As already noted on this thread and know long before the “December 26, 2004 Sumatra quake / Tsunami”, it is called plate tectonics, in case you missed it. Currently it is no better at predicting earth quakes or Tsunami than you, but it has the advantage of being based on science. As such its predictive abilities may improve as technology, modeling and monitoring improve, while your purported “design” will simply remain your own post hoc fantasy.
Do not ignore…
As I said, change your timeframes and “themes” until you “check BBC for the latest news” and find something that has happened that you can shove into your own face.
Are you still going to ignore that everything you do in your post hoc “design” is completely one dimensional and entirely transparent?
Blue Mountain
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wikipedia said:
Are you still trying to argue that what you're doing is not astrology, Dutch?
Dutch
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The astrological Grand Cross alignment of August 18, 1999 ( 'as above' ) was the first 'marker' on Earth's orbit in order to determine a Grand Cross as created with Earth's orbital positions ( 'so below' ).
The second 'marker' was the planetary alignment of May 5, 2000 so the last 2 orbital positions of the Grand Cross on Earth's orbit could be calculated: December 26 ( Sumatra quake /Tsunami ) and June 26.
I had put this hidden underlying Design on the timeline for around September 29, 2009 a priory.
We have seen that Mercury 'The Messenger' was at the same orbital position around September 29, 2009 as during the Grand Cross Alignment of August 18, 1999:
August 18, 1999 - September 29, 2009 = 3.695 Earth days
or 42 mercury years * 87.9691 Earth days = 3.695 Earth days , Mercury 'The Messenger' at the same orbital position.
Several severe Eartquakes and tsunami's around September 29, 2009 were 'confirming' this hidden underlying Design as expressions of the determined Grand Cross orbital position marked by the December 26, 2004 9+ Sumatra quake / tsunami.
Today I thought that it would be a very strong confirmation if the second marker, the planetary alignment of May 5, 2000, also could be confirmed by planetary orbital positions in the way Mercury does for the August 18, 1999 planetary alignment.
I checked and the confirmation popped up instantly:
Its Mars at the same orbital position around September 29, 2009 as during the planetary alignment of May 5, 2000:
May 5, 2000 - September 29, 2009 = 3.434 Earth days
5 Mars years * 686.971 = 3.434 Earth days or
Mars at the same orbital position.
The second 'marker' was the planetary alignment of May 5, 2000 so the last 2 orbital positions of the Grand Cross on Earth's orbit could be calculated: December 26 ( Sumatra quake /Tsunami ) and June 26.
I had put this hidden underlying Design on the timeline for around September 29, 2009 a priory.
We have seen that Mercury 'The Messenger' was at the same orbital position around September 29, 2009 as during the Grand Cross Alignment of August 18, 1999:
August 18, 1999 - September 29, 2009 = 3.695 Earth days
or 42 mercury years * 87.9691 Earth days = 3.695 Earth days , Mercury 'The Messenger' at the same orbital position.
Several severe Eartquakes and tsunami's around September 29, 2009 were 'confirming' this hidden underlying Design as expressions of the determined Grand Cross orbital position marked by the December 26, 2004 9+ Sumatra quake / tsunami.
Today I thought that it would be a very strong confirmation if the second marker, the planetary alignment of May 5, 2000, also could be confirmed by planetary orbital positions in the way Mercury does for the August 18, 1999 planetary alignment.
I checked and the confirmation popped up instantly:
Its Mars at the same orbital position around September 29, 2009 as during the planetary alignment of May 5, 2000:
May 5, 2000 - September 29, 2009 = 3.434 Earth days
5 Mars years * 686.971 = 3.434 Earth days or
Mars at the same orbital position.
Blue Mountain
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But HDD has no predictive ability. You can't use all the conjunctions and orbital positions to say, "On such and such a date when this particular alignment occurs there will be a significant earthquake / political event / celebrity event."
For example, can HDD predict when the current Canadian minority government will lose a confidence vote and we'll have election?
Also, the "grand cross" is used only by astrologers. Are you still denying that what you're doing is just a fancied-up version of astrology?
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The Man
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Simple nonsense even by astrology standards (and that says a lot). A grand cross is an alignment as seen from the Earth and thus depends on the synodic periods of the bodies in the oppositions. That is how a grand cross is “created with Earth's orbital positions”. The Sidereal period of Mercury is 87.969 earth days, however its Synodic period is 115.88 days. “The second 'marker' was the planetary alignment of May 5, 2000 so the last 2 orbital positions of the Grand Cross on Earth's orbit could be calculated:” also is simple nonsense even by astrology standards (and that again says a lot). A planetary alignment is, well, when the planets are aligned and not in opposition as in a grand cross. At least astrology deals with and in the 3 dimensional geometry of orbital positions. Your design hype is just a cheap, flat, one dimensional, post hoc knock off of astrology. You take the vague predictive claims and some terminology from astrology while abandoning the only accurate part of astrology, the actual use of orbital relations to calculate conjunctions. So, no Dutch you certainly aren’t doing astrology, you come nowhere close to even that standard. What you are doing is just a simple cheap one dimensional knock off as your own version of astrology, apparently just because the calculations are easier for you. As surprising as it may seem Dutch makes astrologers seem like astronomers by comparison.
Grand cross alignment from 8-18-1999 from and astrologer.
http://www.revelation13.net/atomic.html
The planetary alignment of 5-5-2000, for a more reputable source.
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/alignment.html
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