Hurricane Ida devastates Lousiana and the GUlf..

[JoeMorgue]

We kind of need cities at the coast. Unless you can figure out a way for Cheyenne to take in a cargo ship.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

forgive my ignorance, but does New Orleans and the surrounding area get hit with more hurricanes, in the longer view, than is typical for coastal areas?

Katrina was a mess because of the flooding issues, this time was bad because of very high winds.

But high winds are a problem pretty much anywhere that has the bad luck of catching a hurricane square on the chin. Hugo flattened Charleston, SC in '89, Andrew tore Florida a new butthole, Galveston got nailed twice 15 years apart in the early 1900's, Sandy swung north and flooded NYC.

If a cat 4 or 5 hurricane hits any large city, it's gonna be a bad time no matter what. New Orleans is not unique in this.

 

[plague311]

Good call, forget I mentioned it. New Orleans is the only option for a port, or place to live. I digress.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Good call, forget I mentioned it. New Orleans is the only option for a port, or place to live. I digress.

No but a city on the coast is the only option for a port.

 

[ponderingturtle]

No but a city on the coast is the only option for a port.

And on the mouth of a major navigable river for hundreds of miles inland really is a place a city needs to be.

Now some areas in the region might be best no longer populated and building codes could likely deal with some upgrading but writing the whole region off is just not practical.

 

[plague311]

No but a city on the coast is the only option for a port.

Got it. Duly noted. I wish them the best of luck.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Got it. Duly noted. I wish them the best of luck.

I'm not really understanding why I'm getting a dismissive snarky attitude here.

 

[plague311]

I'm not really understanding why I'm getting a dismissive snarky attitude here.

Wasn't either of those things, at least not intended. I just didn't have anything to reply with, and wanted to signal I had read it.

If it has to be there, it has to be there. Like I said, I wish them the best of luck. I surely wouldn't want to live in a place where I get my ass handed to me every few years. More power to them for dealing with it I guess.

 

[kookbreaker]

One thing we need to do is stop letting people inhabit Barrier Islands, such as Grand Isle. They are not meant to have permanent footing and yet whether its Louisiana or New Jersey they are the ones who get wiped out by any and all Hurricanes and are the first to whine that insurance needs to pay for everything.

 

[Steve]

One thing we need to do is stop letting people inhabit Barrier Islands, such as Grand Isle. They are not meant to have permanent footing and yet whether its Louisiana or New Jersey they are the ones who get wiped out by any and all Hurricanes and are the first to whine that insurance needs to pay for everything.

Climate change and rising sea levels will take care of that.

 

[Hellbound]

Wasn't either of those things, at least not intended. I just didn't have anything to reply with, and wanted to signal I had read it.

If it has to be there, it has to be there. Like I said, I wish them the best of luck. I surely wouldn't want to live in a place where I get my ass handed to me every few years. More power to them for dealing with it I guess.

I think it does have to be there. It’s not just a port city, but a port city that gives access to the Mississippi River, and via that a good chunk of the U.S. I wouldn’t be surprised if the transportation advantages from that return more to the economy and GDP than the costs of rebuilding. I’ve not run the numbers, though, and I’m not really sure how to go about that. So grain of salt, IANAE, etc.


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[kookbreaker]

Climate change and rising sea levels will take care of that.

The rich people who build houses there will just demand the Government rebuild the island. At taxpayer expense, of course.

 

[dudalb]

We kind of need cities at the coast. Unless you can figure out a way for Cheyenne to take in a cargo ship.

Hey, there are few placed on Earth where you will be 100% safe from natural disasters.

 

[plague311]

Hey, there are few placed on Earth where you will be 100% safe from natural disasters.

That wasn't really what I was implying, just maybe a place that doesn't have a natural disaster that threatens most of the cities infrastructure every year and a halfish.

As I said though, I get it. The city has to be there, so it'll continue to be there.

 

[mgidm86]

California - good luck getting insurance anywhere in the mountains after all the fires. My Dad has a vacation home up near one of the fires. He's worried he won't be able to renew his policy when it comes time to do so.

People will not be building or rebuilding in these areas if they can't get insurance.

 

[catsmate]

I don't know if that's true. The commercial generators that a hospital would install probably run on natural gas, and aren't much like what you would roll out of Home Depot.

Here critical infrastructure generators have a minimum of fourteen days, most have more or capacity for more.

 

[catsmate]

You are talking about depopulating a major American city.It is just not happening in the near future.

Who pays for the rebuilding? And next time?

 

[SteveAitch]

No but a city on the coast is the only option for a port.

Manchester.

Though these days you'd have to make it wider/deeper/bigger. But, hey, in the USA, isn't eveything bigger?

 

[kookbreaker]

Leftover Ida hit the Philly region and NE last night, there was a surprising amount of flooding and such. It was a mess. Usually hurricane leftovers are just a few hours of medium rain. Last night resembled more like when hurricanes hit us directly.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Heavy rain from Ida in Eastern Mass where I am. Not terrible flooding generally, but low spots with poor drainage are flooded out.