How the Shanksville Crater Was Made

[yankee451]

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http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB196/doc04.pdf
http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/foia/9_11/Rec_Radar_Data_Study_all_aircraft.pdf
http://911myths.com/index.php/Image:Ua93_mayday1.mp3
http://911myths.com/index.php/Image:Ua93_mayday2.mp3
http://911myths.com/index.php/Image:UA93_ATC.mp3
http://911myths.com/index.php/Image:Ziad_Jarrah_Bomb_on_Board.mp3
http://911myths.com/index.php/Image:CeeCee_Lyles_Message.mp3
http://911myths.com/index.php/Image:ATC_Report_UA93.pdf
http://911myths.com/index.php/Image:Flight_Path_Study_UA93.pdf

Explain why this isn't evidence of a plane.

I already have. Explain how the crater is evidence of a plane.

 

[yankee451]

That is a lie.

No it isn't.

 

[dafydd]

I already have. Explain how the crater is evidence of a plane.

Physics. You should try it sometime. Cheerybye!!

 

[yankee451]

http://tinyurl.com/9wlnkoa

What does that do with the crater that can be best explained by two 900 lb warheads measuring 12x60 inches striking in crossfire at trajectories of less than 10 degrees from horizontal?

 

[yankee451]

Physics. You should try it sometime. Cheerybye!!

Bu-bye!

 

[FrederickEason]

I already have. Explain how the crater is evidence of a plane.

No, you haven't, you dismissed all the evidence of a plane as "government propaganda".

You're saying you want us to prove a plane could have caused the crater, when we have already proven a plane did cause the crater. Then you take all the evidence of a plane and say nope, no, that's not evidence, that's government lies, and you're all idiots for thinking it's anything but.

And then you go and say it's obvious that JASSM missiles caused this crater, and give us a bunch of pictures of sand craters caused by Pyrex balls as if that's at all equivalent to a missile. And then you MIRROR THE PICTURE IN A PHOTO EDITING PROGRAM because it doesn't look exactly like the crater, and assume that aiming two missiles opposite each other would look like the mirror image of one missile.

 

[BCR]

Even if I only proved it "could" have been caused by missiles, no one has proved it could have been caused by a plane.

Yes they have. Debris, parts and human DNA prove beyond a shadow of a doubt it was created by a plane. Lack of debris and/or parts from a cruise missile prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was not caused by a cruise missile.

MAJOR FAIL!

 

[LSSBB]

No it isn't.

And on ignore you go.

 

[phunk]

Okay, well I'll just talk about the missiles.

One missile would be sent in as an aerostable slug which is one of the configurations of the warhead, it would lay down the gash and embed the warhead undetonated into the ground. No explosion to attract undue attention, and then the second missile can be targeted on that gash. They are able to be reprogrammed in flight, and are extremely accurate - the second one comes in and detonates, creating the wing gash and the center crater.

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/detonated_undetonated.png[/qimg]

That's not now the crater formed in the nasa simulation though, so do you admit that the nasa simulation is irrelevant now, and that you have no proof at all that missiles can form that crater shape?

 

[yankee451]

That's not now the crater formed in the nasa simulation though, so do you admit that the nasa simulation is irrelevant now, and that you have no proof at all that missiles can form that crater shape?

Yes it is irrelevant.

But now that we're here, how 'bout them missiles?

 

[yankee451]

Yes they have. Debris, parts and human DNA prove beyond a shadow of a doubt it was created by a plane. Lack of debris and/or parts from a cruise missile prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was not caused by a cruise missile.

MAJOR FAIL!

How much of the debris have you examined and why would I take your word for it anyway?

 

[yankee451]

Okay, well I'll just talk about the missiles.

One missile would be sent in as an aerostable slug which is one of the configurations of the warhead, it would lay down the gash and embed the warhead undetonated into the ground. No explosion to attract undue attention, and then the second missile can be targeted on that gash. They are able to be reprogrammed in flight, and are extremely accurate - the second one comes in and detonates, creating the wing gash and the center crater.

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/detonated_undetonated.png[/qimg]

You can look at the images yourselves and see the crater begins at the tips of the wing gashes and progressively gets wider as it gets closer to the center hole. So either two meteorites struck from the inside out, or two missiles struck from the outside in.

 

[yankee451]

You can look at the images yourselves and see the crater begins at the tips of the wing gashes and progressively gets wider as it gets closer to the center hole. So either two meteorites struck from the inside out, or two missiles struck from the outside in.

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/detonated_undetonated.png[/qimg]

But we're not on the moon, at least some of us.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

... the crater that can be best explained by two 900 lb warheads measuring 12x60 inches striking in crossfire at trajectories of less than 10 degrees from horizontal?

Your "best explanation" now has the two warheads causing the gouges on the way in before meeting in the middle where the second one explodes and forms the crater.

But of course we now know that's the opposite of your favourite NASA experiments which show craters with gouges caused by ejecta, extending away from the crater, not towards it.

And the lie of the land puts the lie to your claim, as we've seen there was no clear run in for at least one of your 'missiles'.

Plus of course the whole charade is entirely unnecessary. If the crater hadn't been made by a plane (despite the overwhelming evidence you must stubbornly ignore) then there is absolutely no reason whatsoever why it need have been made explosively. Anyone faking the site could have spent as long as they please digging, burying and dressing up the site. Your missiles serve no purpose.

So while I'm sure it's fun to play at trutherism, you got nothin, we know you got nothin, you know we know you got nothin and I'm afraid you might have shot your bolt now, as you don't seem to have anything new to keep us amused.

Not that it hasn't been fun.

 

[phunk]

Yes it is irrelevant.

But now that we're here, how 'bout them missiles?

How about them trees that were in the way?

 

[Trojan]

One missile would be sent in as an aerostable slug which is one of the configurations of the warhead, it would lay down the gash and embed the warhead undetonated into the ground.

How can it lay down the gash BEFORE the warhead is embedded,. its been pointed out to you that under the ballistic claim you are making, the gash comes after impact, not before!

 

[Mudcat]

Even if I only proved it "could" have been caused by missiles, no one has proved it could have been caused by a plane.

No, you never need to prove that something 'could' do anything. You do have to provide evidence that it did happen that way or this way.

 

[FrederickEason]

Yes it is irrelevant.

But now that we're here, how 'bout them missiles?

What missiles?

 

[jaydeehess]

What you're saying is you're all smarter than I am so it can't be true, or someone else would have thought of it.

You don't think military folks from every nation didn't recognize the crater immediately?

On the basis of lhe evidence contained within the electronic pages of the JREF forums, I believe that, yes, I am smarter than you. You possibly have the edge on imagination, but your seeming inability to separate imagery from reality is also your downfall.

 

[Ape of Good Hope]

An appraisal of yankee451's progress so far...


In this thread 64 people have posted.

1 person (yankee451) claims that missiles made the crater at Shanksville.

63 people (everyone else) believe he is talking out of his bum.

yankee451 has made over 150 posts (in this thread) in 6 days, yet has failed to provide any evidence to support his claim.

63 people have, between them, provided all the evidence a rational person needs to see that the crater was made by a hijacked airliner. As if a rational person, in 2013, would need convincing of this.



Yankee451 - Now would be a good time to admit that you're doing this as some bizarre type of performance art piece, or possibly a mid-life crisis.