Homeopathy does work

[Mojo]

YOU TOOK A MONTH IN UNDERSTANDING THIS SIMPLE RULING

Actually, "this simple ruling" was only given by you at 9:35pm, 2/6/2005 (BST). That is rather more than 30 days more recent than a month ago. Up until now, the challenge, as stated by Mr. MAS (and his debating friends) was to prove that homeopathy is paranormal. [irony]But I don't suppose you're smart enough to have read and understood what such a genius as MAS has written.[/irony]

And by the way, you seem to have pressed Caps Lock instead of shift there.

 

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

And by the way, you seem to have pressed Caps Lock instead of shift there.

I think they may all be using that same keyboard with the sticky key. The odd thing about that keyboard is that it seems to keep all their sensible replies locked in its buffer and only lets nonsense through. They really should get MAS to have a look at it before they are made to look silly.

P.S. Qureshi: read what Mojo and Rolfe said. I'll not bother repeating it.

 

[Qureshi1_78]

And by the way, you seem to have pressed Caps Lock instead of shift there.

You are wasting your energy in catching puppets when administrator knows very well that all user from Pakistan are different personalities that's why he allowed us otherwise duplicate alias are not allowed at this forum. If you say, I am the duplicate alias of MAS then actually you are saying your administrator have no capibility of catching the alias. or he has been deceived by the paki members.

We have been given training to write in BOLD when you want to give emphasis on a point. There is nothing wrong in this concept.

IF SOMEBODY WRITES IN BOLD YOU START SCREAMING MAS MAS MAS.... ARE YOU AFRAID OF MAS?

Find the same wording by another member on this board. use your well built search engine.

 

[Rolfe]

IF SOMEBODY WRITES IN BOLD YOU START SCREAMING MAS MAS MAS.... ARE YOU AFRAID OF MAS?

Don't flatter yourself. A stuck caps lock key seems to be one of the common traits of almost all raving woo-woo nutters.

30pt bold cerise is optional, but much favoured by Qlafxangold.

Rolfe.

 

[Olaf/QII]

amazingdan,

Rather than wasting your own and everyone else's time promulgating incorrect and unsubstantiated assumptions about board members' and moderators' actions, would you kindly adhere to the topic of this thread: Can you please provide evidence that "Homeopathy does work"?

Thank you,

I have load upon load of DBPC in vitro studies if you like.

I also have many DBPC studies with human subjects. The in vitro studies are much more convincing though.

For example, the basophil/histamine experiments can contain anywhere from 500 to 10,000+ controls and treatment samples.

With human subjects you end up with annoying variables and it can be very difficult to get 80, 90 subjects to stick around for 3 or 4 months.

When you say there is no evidence all you are doing is stating an opinion.

 

[Kiless]

When you say there is no evidence all you are doing is stating an opinion.

Cool! You have evidence? This is the first time I found this thread (after that strange thread you made in big letters that probably should have been a PM) and your claim sounds interesting. So, where is it published? You have several studies of your findings and they are accepted by the scientific community? Or at least, they are being examined and studied to find their relevance to the medical community, not just by other homeopaths?

 

[Olaf/QII]

Cool! You have evidence? This is the first time I found this thread (after that strange thread you made in big letters that probably should have been a PM) and your claim sounds interesting. So, where is it published? You have several studies of your findings and they are accepted by the scientific community? Or at least, they are being examined and studied to find their relevance to the medical community, not just by other homeopaths?

you can start here

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=57736&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

i have a truckload of them; however, i need to release them slowly lest i be labeled a spammer and promptly banned.


http://www.vhan.nl/documents/Rey.thermoluminescence.pdf

http://www.mercola.com/2003/jun/28/homeopathy.htm


Abstract Ultra-high dilutions of lithium chloride and sodium chloride (10 −30 g cm −3 ) have been irradiated by X-rays and gamma-rays at 77 K, then progressively rewarmed to room temperature. During that phase, their thermoluminescence has been studied and it was found that, despite their dilution beyond the Avogadro number, the emitted light was specific of the original salts dissolved initially.




http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6882/3/7


Ameliorating effect of microdoses of a potentized homeopathic drug, Arsenicum Album, on arsenic-induced toxicity in mice


http://rheumatology.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/short/keh111v1

Improved clinical status in fibromyalgia patients treated with individualized homeopathic remedies versus placebo

 

[geni]

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6882/3/7


Ameliorating effect of microdoses of a potentized homeopathic drug, Arsenicum Album, on arsenic-induced toxicity in mice

that would would be the study whioch used n=5 unit cells and the authors aparently don't know the difference between a null and alturnative hypothosis.

 

[Nucular]

We have been given training to write in BOLD when you want to give emphasis on a point. There is nothing wrong in this concept.

Heh, I love that - you were given training to write in bold.

I'm beginning to understand what these four-year Pakistani homeopathy degrees are like.

 

[MRC_Hans]

*snip*
i have a truckload of them; however, i need to release them slowly lest i be labeled a spammer and promptly banned.

*snip*

Hey? Are you still here? You said last thursday that you would be banned within three days.

Hans

 

[Donks]

Hey? Are you still here? You said last thursday that you would be banned within three days.

Hans

It may be time to check the other forums where Xanta hangs out and see if she's claiming that she was banished/vanished form here.

 

[MRC_Hans]

It may be time to check the other forums where Xanta hangs out and see if she's claiming that she was banished/vanished form here.

And read more of its posts?? No way!

Hans

 

[Zep]

i have a truckload of them; however, i need to release them slowly lest i be labeled a spammer and promptly banned.

Keep to the point of the thread, and don't spray the identical post around like a garden-sprinkler across dozens of threads that have nothing to do with the subject, and you won't have any concerns about being labelled a spammer.

Go ahead - unload your truck right here.

Oh, but be prepared to be argued with too, and support your conclusions. I note you have already run into rough ground...

 

[Olaf/QII]

not on any other forums.

Hello Hans

 

[Olaf/QII]

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[Mojo]

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Well, that's about what I expect...

 

[Ashles]

Latest fun claim by Homeopaths - curing Autism.

See this thread on the Pakistani Homeopathic forums.

Admittedly it's only for 16 weeks at a time, but still pretty much a medical miracle.

It's amazing what you can claim on the internet isn't it?

 

[steenkh]

Latest fun claim by Homeopaths - curing Autism.

See this thread on the Pakistani Homeopathic forums.

The question is really whether it is autism they are curing, and how they determine that the autism has been cured.

But it is possible that we are scaring them off the field by our continued presence. When I come to that forum I am constantly seeing this picture of a few skeptic soldiers overviewing a quiet battlefield of fallen homoeopaths. Only there was no battle: they ran off without a fight, and the few casualties died of self-inflicted wounds!

 

[MRC_Hans]

*snip*

But it is possible that we are scaring them off the field by our continued presence. When I come to that forum I am constantly seeing this picture of a few skeptic soldiers overviewing a quiet battlefield of fallen homoeopaths. Only there was no battle: they ran off without a fight, and the few casualties died of self-inflicted wounds!

A pretty good description, I think. I was there during the "battle", and it was a rather surreal experience to se the opposition so busy directing shots at their own feet that they had hardly any time for us. The casualties were of course worsened by said feet being situated in their mouths.

But you all saw essentially the same thing happen here with the Pakistani homeopathic contingent.

Hans

 

[Ashles]

A pretty good description, I think. I was there during the "battle", and it was a rather surreal experience to se the opposition so busy directing shots at their own feet that they had hardly any time for us. The casualties were of course worsened by said feet being situated in their mouths.

But you all saw essentially the same thing happen here with the Pakistani homeopathic contingent.

Hans

Well the difference was that we were all fairly unrestrained over here, but on the Pakistan Homeopathy forums all the sceptics have been pretty much respectful and polite and on-topic, led by Hans exmplary conduct.

This actually seemed strangely to cause them to be even more offensive and illogical than they were over here.

And it appears that logical, polite scientific questions have the same effect on homeopaths as an invitation to a vampire to consume a garlic flavoured hot cross bun made with holy water.