Hilarious Steven Jones article

[WildCat]

The molten beams being pulled out that are still glowing are steel, because the beams were made of steel. Pretty solid evidence if you ask me.

Are you now backtracking to say "'red hot' = molten"?

This means you admit there was no molten steel, yes?

 

[papasmurf]

exhibit A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9qEIlNVl5s

 

[papasmurf]

Are you now backtracking to say "'red hot' = molten"?

This means you admit there was no molten steel, yes?

You wish...

Not mutually exclusive at all, nor what i meant. I mean dripping with molten steel. Yellow-orange hot.

 

[beachnut]

You wish...

Not mutually exclusive at all, nor what i meant. I mean dripping with molten steel. Yellow-orange hot.

That could be a piece of wood, with white hot ashes falling off. Darn, that does not look like liquid to me. Gravity wins again.


Jones never said dripping metal did he? Are you making the dripping up?


Jones is always changing his story line as he is shown facts. He switches photos shown here! http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/10/gravy-on-wtc7.html
And not he has this photo in his latest VERSION of his paper of fantasy fraud. Talked about here. http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/04/steven-jones-comments-on-hot-core-photo.html
So his new photo are cuts being made after 9/11, Jones tries to pass off as hot metal due to thermite. It is sad his madness on 9/11 is not seen by "smart" engineering students.

 

[WildCat]

You wish...

Not mutually exclusive at all, nor what i meant. I mean dripping with molten steel. Yellow-orange hot.

No, it's not dripp9ing. And it's certainly not molten. And what's all that metal that isn't even red hot in contact with your "molten" metal?

You need to try again.

 

[papasmurf]

Not dripping?

Ok, wildcat.

OKEY DOKEY!!!!!


For the rest of you that have functioning retinas, here is exhibit B, but keep your ears open for this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p6UuGE0plk&feature=related

 

[WildCat]

Not dripping?

Ok, wildcat.

OKEY DOKEY!!!!!


For the rest of you that have functioning retinas, here is exhibit B, but keep your ears open for this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p6UuGE0plk&feature=related

Yes, he says it is "red hot". Your claim is molten.

Do you intend to post evidence of molten steel? Is this too hard of a question?

 

[WildCat]

Oh, and don't forget to explain how thermite can keep steel hot for weeks.

 

[johnny karate]

And my point is that in almost seven years, it seems that only Truthers such as yourself are interested in this "molten steel" phenomenon.

Why aren't there investigative journalists in Europe or perhaps Interpol agents that share your curiosity and suspicion?

Why isn't there anyone, anywhere on the entire planet, in some kind of official capacity that can confirm your beliefs?

Bump for papasmurf.

 

[SDC]

But you see, at good old Stevens Tech, Papasmurf learned that these all mean the same: metal = iron = steel. And red hot = orange hot = molten = liquid dripping off the beams.

You mean, you mean they don't all mean the same thing?

 

[twinstead]

Even given molten steel, and it's not given, how exactly would it be evidence of thermite again?

 

[papasmurf]

Oh, and don't forget to explain how thermite can keep steel hot for weeks.

No i explained it 3 times already to you, but you are too thick to get it.

The molten steel is in the basement, many feet underground. Once a massive amount of the steel is molten, it will remain molten for a very long period of time given the right conditions.

The volcano analogy given by Jones is excellent.

 

[papasmurf]

But you see, at good old Stevens Tech, Papasmurf learned that these all mean the same: metal = iron = steel. And red hot = orange hot = molten = liquid dripping off the beams.

You mean, you mean they don't all mean the same thing?

Edited by chillzero: 

Edited for civility

That in no way resembles anything that i said, thought, or otherwise implied. You are the epitome of why no one has made any progress on debunking the truth movement. Why so many more people join it everyday because they fail to find the answers, why so many find that the supporters of the official story are nothing but shills.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

Once a massive amount of the steel is molten, it will remain molten for a very long period of time given the right conditions.

And once this steel did cool off, what happened to it? Where are the physical remnants of it? Where are the large solidified puddles of steel?

Oh, an BTW, there is another thread for you.

 

[papasmurf]

I understand that molten means liquid, but if it is dripping, part of it is molten.

The other part is yellow-orange hot, maybe red at the end. This indicates temperatures well over 1300-1500 degrees.

So, the questions still remain on how it got that hot.

We have people here saying the photo is not dripping, not molten.
We have people saying it's wood.

And you want people to believe that we are the liars.

 

[papasmurf]

And once this steel did cool off, what happened to it? Where are the physical remnants of it? Where are the large solidified puddles of steel?

Oh, an BTW, there is another thread for you.

The pools were removed with massive machines and cranes. Alot of it mixed in with concrete.

Alot of these previously molten wrecks of steel and concrete are on display at memorial sites.

I went to a history museum years ago that had massive chunks of this molten metal and concrete. It was like giant globs of rock and metal with twisted beams sticking out of them and stuff.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

The pools were removed with massive machines and cranes.

How? How were they trucked off site?

Alot of it mixed in with concrete.

(alot is not a word)

proof please.

Alot of these previously molten wrecks of steel and concrete are on display at memorial sites.

Where? got pictures?

I went to a history museum years ago that had massive chunks of this molten metal and concrete. It was like giant globs of rock and metal with twisted beams sticking out of them and stuff.

Where?

 

[Alferd_Packer]

It was like giant globs of rock and metal with twisted beams sticking out of them and stuff.

How come the beams weren't melted as well?

 

[WildCat]

I understand that molten means liquid, but if it is dripping, part of it is molten.

And there is no evidence it is dripping. The man in your video says nothing about it dripping or being molten.

The other part is yellow-orange hot, maybe red at the end. This indicates temperatures well over 1300-1500 degrees.

It's already been pointed out to you why this kind of analysis is fraught with problems.

So, the questions still remain on how it got that hot.

It got that hot because it was in a burning mountain of debris for several weeks at least.

We have people here saying the photo is not dripping, not molten.

Which it isn't.

We have people saying it's wood.

No, people said it "could be" wood. And certainly some of that might be wood. It might also be burning plastic. What it clearly isn't is molten steel.

And you want people to believe that we are the liars.

You prove it over and over.

 

[papasmurf]

How come the beams weren't melted as well?

Some of them did not completely become molten, so when they cooled, they were relatively intact, although warped and such.

There are pictures. I will find them when i am done with my semiconductors homework.