Haig and his Sun caused earthquakes

[Reality Check]

Haig: "if cosmic rays ..., they would be having a cooling effect".

The links between our variable Star and earthquakes, volcanoes and major weather/climate events is becoming more obvious ...

That is a lie, Haig - delusions are not links.
You have cited a couple of crank blogs going on about cosmic rays influencing climate. Dr Sircus is lying - global warming has been going on for the last "approximately 17 years". Not even global surface temperatures have stopped increasing over the last 17 years!

What's the link between cosmic rays and climate change?

Hypothetically, an increasing solar magnetic field could deflect galactic cosmic rays, which hypothetically seed low-level clouds, thus decreasing the Earth's reflectivity and causing global warming. However, it turns out that none of these hypotheticals are occurring in reality, and if cosmic rays were able to influence global temperatures, they would be having a cooling effect.

20 August 2015 Haig: "if cosmic rays were able to influence global temperatures, they would be having a cooling effect".

You then cite a deluded crank's web page in "The Theory of Relational Cycles of Solar Activity" rather than any science. John L. Casey is lying - there are no peer reviewed papers cited on that page.

Haig: 14 delusions about the Sun and earthquakes since 4 May 2015

 

[Haig]

That is a lie, Haig - delusions are not links.
You have cited a couple of crank blogs going on about cosmic rays influencing climate. Dr Sircus is lying - global warming has been going on for the last "approximately 17 years". Not even global surface temperatures have stopped increasing over the last 17 years!

Why would they lie RC ?

It's a fact the Sun has 99.9% of the matter in the solar system and it's a huge electromagnet

The Earth is also an electromagnet but tiny when compared to the Sun. It should hardly be surprising that our variable star can trigger earthquakes, volcanoes and major weather events

Many others are showing this power of the Sun...

The Laschamp Event and Earth’s Wandering Magnetic Field

It is true that the last major pole reversal was 780 kya, but lesser geomagnetic excursions are more frequent. The last one, known as the Laschamp event, was only 41 kya. It involved a full reversal, but the whole thing lasted only 440 years. During the change, the field dropped to 5% of its former value, and the cosmic ray flux more than doubled.

The scary thing is that we now seem to be in the early stages of a similar event. The N magnetic di pole has left the Canadian Arctic; it is now at 86 N and barreling towards Siberia at 60 km/yr. This is as fast as the maximum speed during the Laschamp event. If it continued, compasses would point at some point on the equator only 180 years from now — but it will probably break up long before then. The very recent data from the ESA Swarm satellites indicate that the field is becoming disorganized and decreasing in intensity by 5%/decade.

It seems quite likely that we will lose the protection of the geomagnetic field within decades to perhaps a century, exposing satellites, communication systems and terrestrial power grids to serious damage, and requiring much heavier shielding for astronauts in Earth orbit (and perhaps for people at high latitudes, such as Scotland). Moreover, if the field weakens substantially while we are still in the coming Grand Solar Minimum, the climate may become much colder than the Little Ice Age.

Hidden Portals in Earth's Magnetic Field

"We call them X-points or electron diffusion regions," explains plasma physicist Jack Scudder of the University of Iowa. "They're places where the magnetic field of Earth connects to the magnetic field of the Sun, creating an uninterrupted path leading from our own planet to the sun's atmosphere 93 million miles away."

Observations by NASA's THEMIS spacecraft and Europe's Cluster probes suggest that these magnetic portals open and close dozens of times each day. They're typically located a few tens of thousands of kilometers from Earth where the geomagnetic field meets the onrushing solar wind. Most portals are small and short-lived; others are yawning, vast, and sustained. Tons of energetic particles can flow through the openings, heating Earth's upper atmosphere, sparking geomagnetic storms, and igniting bright polar auroras.

And our variable star has flipped magnetic poles in the last few months as looked forward to in this 2013 article ...

The Sun's Magnetic Field is about to Flip

A reversal of the sun's magnetic field is, literally, a big event. The domain of the sun's magnetic influence (also known as the "heliosphere") extends billions of kilometers beyond Pluto. Changes to the field's polarity ripple all the way out to the Voyager probes, on the doorstep of interstellar space.

When solar physicists talk about solar field reversals, their conversation often centers on the "current sheet." The current sheet is a sprawling surface jutting outward from the sun's equator where the sun's slowly-rotating magnetic field induces an electrical current. The current itself is small, only one ten-billionth of an amp per square meter (0.0000000001 amps/m2), but there’s a lot of it: the amperage flows through a region 10,000 km thick and billions of kilometers wide. Electrically speaking, the entire heliosphere is organized around this enormous sheet.

During field reversals, the current sheet becomes very wavy. Scherrer likens the undulations to the seams on a baseball. As Earth orbits the sun, we dip in and out of the current sheet. Transitions from one side to another can stir up stormy space weather around our planet.

 

[Haig]

An update on our variable star and more

Solar Eruptions, Life from Comets, Cali Tsunami Model | S0 News August 20, 2015

 

[ferd burfle]

It's a fact the Sun has 99.9% of the matter in the solar system and it's a huge electromagnet

The Earth is also an electromagnet but tiny when compared to the Sun. It should hardly be surprising that our variable star can trigger earthquakes, volcanoes and major weather events

Haig, why is it neither of those linked pages contains the word "electromagnet"? The first discusses the electromagnetic spectrum, i.e. photons, of which the Sun is a source,. and the second just mentions the Earth's magnetic field, the presence of which does not in any way make the Earth an electromagnet..

I see three possible explanations:

-you are profoundly and utterly ignoorant of even the most basic scientifiic concepts
-you have blatantly misrepresented the contents of those pages, an act some might describe with the term "lying"
-you posted the links without bothering to read the linked content, which is a lazier version of lying

Whick is it Haig? I think we deserve an explanation



btw, is "Space News" pronounced "Space Snooze"?

 

[Haig]

Haig, why is it neither of those linked pages contains the word "electromagnet"? The first discusses the electromagnetic spectrum, i.e. photons, of which the Sun is a source,. and the second just mentions the Earth's magnetic field, the presence of which does not in any way make the Earth an electromagnet..

I see three possible explanations:

-you are profoundly and utterly ignoorant of even the most basic scientifiic concepts
-you have blatantly misrepresented the contents of those pages, an act some might describe with the term "lying"
-you posted the links without bothering to read the linked content, which is a lazier version of lying

Whick is it Haig? I think we deserve an explanation



btw, is "Space News" pronounced "Space Snooze"?

A bit off topic ferd but the answer is obvious if you think about it.

Magnetism and electricity are intrinsically linked, you don't get one without the other. The Sun and the Earth both have magnetic fields and therefore both have electric currents as well. Hence electromagnet ... Which comes first ... the electricity or the magnetism ? Can they be separated ?

Some more links to give you food for thought

Physics4kids

The Sun interacts with the Earth through Electromagnetic Radiation Electromagnetic Radiation and The Solar Wind PDF

Magnetic Portals Connect Earth to the Sun

Mmmm can you see where this is going ?

 

[Dinwar]

So the magnets my son plays with on the refrigerator are electromagnets? Should I worry about shock risks?

 

[ferd burfle]

Magnetism and electricity are intrinsically linked, you don't get one without the other. The Sun and the Earth both have magnetic fields and therefore both have electric currents as well. Hence electromagnet ... Which comes first ... the electricity or the magnetism ? Can they be separated ?

Mmmm can you see where this is going ?

linkbarf deleted---(tip of the hat to Jrrarlblarg


Judging by the fact your repeated your error, I'm going with the profound ignorance thing. To answer your question, your "hypothesis" is going absolutely nowhere based on said ignorance.

 

[Reality Check]

Why would they lie RC ?
...

Who cares why the deluded cranks you link to lie on their web sites? The fact is that they do:

• Dr Sircus is lying - global warming has been going on for the last "approximately 17 years".
• John L. Casey is lying - there are no peer reviewed papers cited on that page.

Some idiotic links, Haig

1. The Laschamp Event and Earth’s Wandering Magnetic Field is about the Earth’s Wandering Magnetic Field!
2. Hidden Portals in Earth's Magnetic Field is about the Earth's Magnetic Field!
3. The Sun's Magnetic Field is about to Flip is about the well known ~11 year cycle in the Sun's magnetic field.

20 August 2015 Haig: Does your link to a crank with the delusion that cosmic rays are a significant cause of climate change, earthquakes, etc. mean that you share that delusion?
A simple Yes or No answer. if you ignore the question then the citation is evidence that you do share the delusion and we have a candidate for delusion 15 (cosmic rays cause earthquakes !) in
Haig: 14 delusions about the Sun and earthquakes since 4 May 2015

 

[Reality Check]

An update on our variable star and more

And even more delusions!
Haig: 14 delusions about the Sun and earthquakes since 4 May 2015

 

[Reality Check]

A bit off topic ferd but the answer is obvious if you think about it.

The answer is obvious Haig.
Anyone can spin fairy stories about known physics.
The Sun has a magnetic field. The Earth has a magnetic field. Thus pink unicorns exist

We can see where this is going is more mindlessly parroting of the delusions of Ben Davidson and other Internet cranks.

 

[Reality Check]

It's a fact the Sun has 99.9% of the matter in the solar system and it's a huge electromagnet

That is a couple of bits of ignorance, Haig. And an abysmally ignorant link to an outdated NASA page about UV waves! Ultraviolet Waves
The Sun is not an electromagnet - there are no wires!
The Earth is not an electromagnet - there are no wires!
The Sun and Earth have dynamos inside them that generate magnetic fields.
Solar dynamo
Dynamo theory

 

[Haig]

So the magnets my son plays with on the refrigerator are electromagnets? Should I worry about shock risks?

Only if you worry about the electrical energy within the atoms of the permanent magnets

The magnetic field and magnetic moment, due to natural magnetic dipoles (left), or an electric current (right). Either generates the same field profile

 

[Haig]

The Sun is not an electromagnet - there are no wires!
The Earth is not an electromagnet - there are no wires!

Wires ... we don't need no stinking wires

An electromagnet is a magnet that is created when electricity flows through a conductor. The magnetic field goes around the conductor. Wires are a handy way to make them but nature has other ways

Consider the Birkeland current

the currents are driven by the solar wind and interplanetary magnetic field and by bulk motions of plasma through the magnetosphere (convection indirectly driven by the interplanetary environment)

Natures electromagnet

Birkeland currents are also one of a class of plasma phenomena called a z-pinch, so named because the azimuthal magnetic fields produced by the current pinches the current into a filamentary cable. This can also twist, producing a helical pinch that spirals like a twisted or braided rope, and this most closely corresponds to a Birkeland current. Pairs of parallel Birkeland currents will also interact due to Ampère's force law: parallel Birkeland currents moving in the same direction will attract each other with an electromagnetic force inversely proportional to their distance apart whilst parallel Birkeland currents moving in opposite directions will repel each other. There is also a short-range circular component to the force between two Birkeland currents that is opposite to the longer-range parallel forces.[11]

Electrons moving along a Birkeland current may be accelerated by a plasma double layer. If the resulting electrons approach relativistic velocities (i.e. if they approach the speed of light) they may subsequently produce a Bennett pinch, which in a magnetic field causes the electrons to spiral and emit synchrotron radiation that may include radio, optical (i.e. visible light), x-rays, and gamma rays.

 

[Reality Check]

Wires .....

Repeating ignorance about the solar and terrestrial magnetic fields, Haig:

The Sun and Earth have dynamos inside them that generate magnetic fields.
Solar dynamo
Dynamo theory

FYI: Electromagnet

An electromagnet is a type of magnet in which the magnetic field is produced by an electric current. The magnetic field disappears when the current is turned off. Electromagnets usually consist of a large number of closely spaced turns of wire that create the magnetic field. The wire turns are often wound around a magnetic core made from a ferromagnetic or ferrimagnetic material such as iron; the magnetic core concentrates the magnetic flux and makes a more powerful magnet.

 

[Matthew Cline]

But who cares ? Why is that interesting or funny or important ?

I'm going to take a stab at clarifying what I think Haig means, even though I don't at all believe what follows (similar to playing devil's advocate):

"Mainstream science says that the Sun's energy output is due to gravity induced fusion. The Sun produces an amazing amount of power, thus if mainstream science is correct gravity would have to be an amazingly powerful force. If gravity was an amazingly powerful force then it could be used to accelerate particles to the same energies as in the LHC. But gravity can't be used in particle accelerators. Thus scientists using other-than-gravity forces in the LHC contradicts their stance on gravity induced fusion in the Sun."

Is that what you're getting at, Haig?

 

[Haig]

I'm going to take a stab at clarifying what I think Haig means, even though I don't at all believe what follows (similar to playing devil's advocate):

"Mainstream science says that the Sun's energy output is due to gravity induced fusion. The Sun produces an amazing amount of power, thus if mainstream science is correct gravity would have to be an amazingly powerful force. If gravity was an amazingly powerful force then it could be used to accelerate particles to the same energies as in the LHC. But gravity can't be used in particle accelerators. Thus scientists using other-than-gravity forces in the LHC contradicts their stance on gravity induced fusion in the Sun."

Is that what you're getting at, Haig?

No.

This is what I'm getting at ...

Earthquakes and the Solar System

 

[Matthew Cline]

No.

This is what I'm getting at ...

Earthquakes and the Solar System

What does the LHC using electromagnetism rather than gravity have to do with earthquakes? The connection might be obvious to you, but it's not obvious to us, so please spell it out. Unless the "connection" is something like "everything (including earthquakes) is electrical, and the LHC using electromagnetism is evidence that everything is electrical".

 

[Haig]

What does the LHC using electromagnetism rather than gravity have to do with earthquakes? The connection might be obvious to you, but it's not obvious to us, so please spell it out. Unless the "connection" is something like "everything (including earthquakes) is electrical, and the LHC using electromagnetism is evidence that everything is electrical".

It's off topic just go back and read it again and it may come to you

Or start a new thread on the topic and I might pitch in if I have the time. That's what this guy did

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

No.

This is what I'm getting at ...

Earthquakes and the Solar System

YouTube biblethumping again, full of unsupported assertions.


And we still don't have a coupling mechanism capable of sinking the Titanic with a flashlight.

 

[ferd burfle]

I'm going to take a stab at clarifying what I think Haig means, even though I don't at all believe what follows (similar to playing devil's advocate):

<snip>

Is that what you're getting at, Haig?

Matthew Cline, Haig has just (twice) demonstrated he doesn't know the difference between the electromagnetic spectrum and an electromagnet. He just throws out scientific terms willy nilly, in the same way he spews out links. You're assuming he understands what he posts.

ETA: The EU crowd indulge in lazy "Looks Like A Bunny" thinking; "if it looks like X then it is X". In the electromagnet case Haig employed the "Sounds Like A Bunny" aural version of that same "thinking".