Haig and his Sun caused earthquakes

Interesting question Jrrarglblarg that is looked at in this list HERE is a good way to narrow down the possibilities ;)
"Narrow down the possibilities"? Seriously??

That approach is exactly opposite of the scientific method. No wonder you don't have an answer.
 
"Narrow down the possibilities"? Seriously??

That approach is exactly opposite of the scientific method. No wonder you don't have an answer.


My update came after your post here. And this is just my opinion, they will make things clear for themselves.

Interesting how strong electromagnetism appears in all this, don't you think ? :D
 
Last time I checked, rocks aren't magnetic so I don't know how electromegonigal whatchamacalitISM would use "electromagnets" to shift terrain 300km below the surface of the earth.
 
Jrrarglblarg you're missing the point of the video
The point of the video is a blind belief in Ben Davidson's delusions about the Sun causing earthquakes, Haig.
Haig: 14 delusions about the Sun and earthquakes since 4 May 2015

No one would be idiotic enough to think that a YouTube video is science and try to check out its delusions.

Derailing into the ignorance and delusions of Piers Corbyn by advertising a crank web site is not good, Haig. He idiotically spoke at least one deluded Electric Universe conference:
20 August 2015 Haig: A rather deluded video from Corbyn speaking at a really deluded Electric Universe conference!

Driving space weather forecasts with real data is actual ongoing science, not delusions about the Sun causing earthquakes or Corbyn's fantasy about his imaginary long range weather forecasts.
 
Have a look at this ... ...snipped irrelevant link...
Wrong Haig: You have a claim (the Sun causes earthquakes) which you are not supporting except with Ben Davidson's crank videos.
Irrelevant links merely make you look ignorant about your own claim!
 
Guys, feel free to comment on my posts in your own words ...
Ok: This is the idiocy of spamming the thread with obviously non-science videos by the deluded Ben Davison. Any speaker at the Thunderbolts conferences or believer in their Electric Universe has to be deluded as you know from the electric comet thread:
The Electric Universe followers believe in Velikovsky's delusion that planets zoomed around the Solar System to explain various myths in recent times and the extra layer of delusion added by the Thunderbolts authors..

Haig: 14 delusions about the Sun and earthquakes since 4 May 2015
 
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How about ...
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How about the ignorance of thinking that a PDF on the web is peer reviewed science when the authors themselves state that it has not been published, Haig :eye-poppi!
There is a hint that the editors of the journal have changed their mind about publishing it - Davidson goes on abut their account being closed.
 
Some reading referenced in the hypothesis
Spamming us with the references in a bad PDF by authors who include the deluded Ben Davidson is bad, Haig.
Magnetic Portals Connect Earth to the Sun says is not about earthquakes.

Magnetic field observations in the near-field the 28 June 1992 Mw 7.3 Landers, California, earthquake is about earthquakes changing magnetic fields.

etc.

Geez - do you think that anyone would be stupid enough to check out every reference in anything that the deluded Ben Davidson co-authors, Haig?
The Electric Universe followers believe in Velikovsky's delusion that planets zoomed around the Solar System to explain various myths in recent times and the extra layer of delusion added by the Thunderbolts authors.
 
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Continuing the theme of deluded authors: Dr. Kongpop U-yen
EU2014 — speakers
Dr. Kongpop U-yen obtained his PhD degree in Electrical Engineering from Georgia Institute of Technology. As an electric universe enthusiast, he has conducted an independent research on topics related to space weather and solar activities predictions.

The Electric Universe followers believe in Velikovsky's delusion that planets zoomed around the Solar System to explain various myths in recent times and the extra layer of delusion added by the Thunderbolts authors.
 
Last time I checked, rocks aren't magnetic so I don't know how electromegonigal whatchamacalitISM would use "electromagnets" to shift terrain 300km below the surface of the earth.

They can be--and that's the most damning evidence against this. Magnetite is a magnetic mineral that is frequently not melted by magma. It also forms long, skinny crystals. If there's flow to the magma, this actually orients them according to flow (either parallel or perpendicular to flow direction; think sticks in a stream). You can therefore look at the orientiation of these crystals by examining the magnetic field--and what you see is orientation according to flow. Saw a talk on this back in college, using Stone Mountain , in Georgia as the case study (the guy was from Atlanta, so it was an easy choice). This was tested on a few different intrusive igneous formations, including several where other evidence for flow was available, and proved to be fairly robust, if limited in utility (you need magnetite for it to work, and strong enough flow to overcome the mineral's tendency to orient itself to Earth's magnetic field).

If Haig was correct, we would expect to see magnetic crystals suspended in fluid significantly shifted during the cooling process. Magma flow is not the fastest thing in the world (literally in this case! :D ), and the Earth's magnetic field isn't exaclty super-strong. Regardless, anything that is strong enough to affect tectonics must be strong enough to affect mineral grains. Likewise with volcanoes--they are basically intrusive melts that get exposed, after all, so anything that can affect them must necessarily have substantive and detectable effects on orientation of magnetic minerals. And the simple fact is, we don't see that--we see minerals oriented by the Earth's magnetic field, and by flow. (The two concepts are not exclusive; last I heard it was hypothesized that Stone Mountain was involved in some local volcanism, so if Haig was right we should definitely see evidence of it in these formations.)

There are other reasons to believe this to be nonsense, but this is direct experimental evidence disproving this entire concept.

Quite obviously the orientation of minerals falling out of suspension along the sea floor would likewise be a direct experimental test of this idea, but I can't think of any specific studies focused on them off the top of my head. I do know that the pattern shown in the magnetic polarity of the sea bed is explicable by polar reversals, and that there's no indication that I'm aware of for any solar cycles expressing themselves in the material. Placer deposits are another place to look, and have the added bonus of providing detail down to the scale of years, if not smaller (depends on the formation).
 
They can be--and that's the most damning evidence against this. Magnetite is a magnetic mineral that is frequently not melted by magma. It also forms long, skinny crystals. If there's flow to the magma, this actually orients them according to flow (either parallel or perpendicular to flow direction; think sticks in a stream). You can therefore look at the orientiation of these crystals by examining the magnetic field--and what you see is orientation according to flow. Saw a talk on this back in college, using Stone Mountain , in Georgia as the case study (the guy was from Atlanta, so it was an easy choice). This was tested on a few different intrusive igneous formations, including several where other evidence for flow was available, and proved to be fairly robust, if limited in utility (you need magnetite for it to work, and strong enough flow to overcome the mineral's tendency to orient itself to Earth's magnetic field).

If Haig was correct, we would expect to see magnetic crystals suspended in fluid significantly shifted during the cooling process. Magma flow is not the fastest thing in the world (literally in this case! :D ), and the Earth's magnetic field isn't exaclty super-strong. Regardless, anything that is strong enough to affect tectonics must be strong enough to affect mineral grains. Likewise with volcanoes--they are basically intrusive melts that get exposed, after all, so anything that can affect them must necessarily have substantive and detectable effects on orientation of magnetic minerals. And the simple fact is, we don't see that--we see minerals oriented by the Earth's magnetic field, and by flow. (The two concepts are not exclusive; last I heard it was hypothesized that Stone Mountain was involved in some local volcanism, so if Haig was right we should definitely see evidence of it in these formations.)

There are other reasons to believe this to be nonsense, but this is direct experimental evidence disproving this entire concept.

Quite obviously the orientation of minerals falling out of suspension along the sea floor would likewise be a direct experimental test of this idea, but I can't think of any specific studies focused on them off the top of my head. I do know that the pattern shown in the magnetic polarity of the sea bed is explicable by polar reversals, and that there's no indication that I'm aware of for any solar cycles expressing themselves in the material. Placer deposits are another place to look, and have the added bonus of providing detail down to the scale of years, if not smaller (depends on the formation).


Just WOW! Dinwar and let me also express my view of your spiel :dl:

Can I just take you back to the hypothesis here ;)

That is: The Sun outputs that are Earth facing / impacting (such as: coronal holes, flares, filaments, sudden changes in the solar wind speed, changes in polarity ... etc) may "trigger" earthquakes, volcanoes and major weather events.

Are you saying that none of this happens because of your blurb above? :D

There was some posts about a "coupling mechanism" is that what you're referring too? Even that speculation isn't refuted by your post :)

You see the key word in the hypothesis is "trigger" The cause of earthquakes isn't under discussion here. What builds up the pressure in the fault lines is thought to be adjacent plates trying to move in different directions and stress builds up until it is released in a sudden movement or earthquake.

However, the hypothesis is: when the earthquake zone is in this fragile state a very big electromagnet (the Sun) can shock/jolt/trigger the very little electromagnet (the earth) into a more stable state by these variable outputs. Get it now? ;)

So Dinwar you can put away your strawman arguments and get back in your box :p
 
Is earth an electromagnet? Or is the nickle-iron core a permanent magnet? I thought it was a permanent magnet but now that haig has used the magic word particle "electro" and posted some YouTube links I'm filled with Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt!
 
An explanation that excludes no possible observation and accomodates all it can encounter is no explanation at all.
 
Is earth an electromagnet? Or is the nickle-iron core a permanent magnet? I thought it was a permanent magnet but now that haig has used the magic word particle "electro" and posted some YouTube links I'm filled with Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt!

Clearly it must be an electromagnet because the Earth is electric and generates a magnetic field ;)

Circular logic is fun!
 

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