Haig and his Sun caused earthquakes

[tusenfem]

Is that the best you can come up with ?

Reduced to "noises off"

I guess you missed:


e.g.
Solar wind speed which causes more dynamic pressure on Earth’s magnetosphere is the physical mechanism which increases the number of earthquakes.

That is the whole explanation? That is NOT a mechanism, that is an effect on the magnetosphere, THEN you have to explain how that results in triggering an earthquake. There is NO calculation in the paper, nothing but "we have to look solar wind, magnetosphere, ionosphere and the ground" (freely written down).

And looking at the table of content (http://www.scirp.org/journal/NS/) makes me seriously doubt the seriousness of this "journal".

The is absolutely NO model in that paper, after scanning it, I did not read it completely, even the ESC semi-final was more interesting.

 

[The Don]

Was Haig able to predict this morning's quake in Kent ?

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

Was it within a week or two of a solar event facing earth, or maybe facing off to the side?

 

[catsmate]

The Carrington superstorm of 1859 was a massive solar event yet both earthquakes listed in Wikipedia for that year occurred before the event, and were fairly small.

Wiki doesn't list any earthquakes in 1860.

I asked him about the 1882 storm, with it's corresponding dearth of tectonic activity, some pages back and he evaded and waffled.

 

[a_unique_person]

"Tricky" here means "hard to explain" because there is no mechanism to transfer the amount of energy required to move tectonic plates.

Solar wind isn't even wind, you're right, now we're sinking the titanic with an empty can of hairspray.

Yet he can't accept that CO2 is a significant greenhouse gas.

 

[Haig]

I guess you missed:

Yip, you edited your post 8 mins after I'd posted a reply and left

Last edited by tusenfem; Yesterday at 10:14 PM.

Yesterday, 10:06 PM

But I'm not surprised the paper and the publisher aren't to your liking

The solar wind speed has been linked to the frequency of lightning (and hence storms) here on Earth. What pray, is the mechanism for that ?

Could there be a common / similar mechanism here ?

Was Haig able to predict this morning's quake in Kent ?

Funny you say that

It was four days ago that this prediction of a coming up-tick was made

And here is the start of the up-tick

Solar Blast, Planets, Storms | S0 News May 22, 2015

solar system scope

 

[Tolls]

Funny you say that

It was four days ago that this prediction of a coming up-tick was made

I do hope you're not being serious...it's hard to filter the stuff you are joking about and the utter nonsense you seem to actually believe.

 

[The Don]

The solar wind speed has been linked to the frequency of lightning (and hence storms) here on Earth. What pray, is the mechanism for that ?

Could there be a common / similar mechanism here ?

What makes you think that there might ?

 

[Haig]

I do hope you're not being serious...it's hard to filter the stuff you are joking about and the utter nonsense you seem to actually believe.

That's a problem for you not me

I don't believe any of this stuff, I'm not religious in any way and Science should have no place for beliefs.

I find this hypothesis fits the facts and data so far and I think this guy is on to something

Do you accept the solar wind modulation of lightning and hence storms on Earth ? If so, then solar event triggering of earthquakes, volcanoes, major storms etc shouldn't be dismissed without careful consideration and it hasn't had that yet !

What makes you think that there might ?

EARTHSPOTS: Storms and Earthquakes [Update]

Earthquakes and the Solar System

Sun Series

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

The difference between lighting and earthquake is far greater than a single order of magnitude. The energy involved is an order of magnitude of orders of magnitude.

Now you've gone from sinking the Titanic with a gust of hairspray to sinking the titanic by walking across carpet and zapping it with your finger.

That isn't science and it doesn't fit any facts that are actually facts.

 

[Haig]

The difference between lighting and earthquake is far greater than a single order of magnitude. The energy involved is an order of magnitude of orders of magnitude.

Now you've gone from sinking the Titanic with a gust of hairspray to sinking the titanic by walking across carpet and zapping it with your finger.

That isn't science and it doesn't fit any facts that are actually facts.

You're missing the point.

What do you think the mechanism is linking the solar wind to the frequency of lighting here on Earth ?

And before the paper Evidence for solar wind modulation of lightning came out how many gave credence to such a notion ?

and would have ridiculed anyone for suggesting it ! Try to be honest here !

So the notion that solar events can "trigger" earthquakes ... etc, here on Earth isn't so far removed. As for the energy involved to do such a thing ... well remember the anti-fracking lobby claim the pressure involved in that can "trigger" earthquakes too

See the point now ?

No, I didn't think so but others might


Quakes, Sun, Daddy S0 | S0 News May 23, 2015

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

High pressure injection of fluids triggering tectonic action is well established. Geologists have known for over 50 years that it can happen because they are scientists and do science.

Lightning striking the ground has never been connected with triggering tectonic activity 3m to 300km below the surface of the earth because they don't. Geologists have been studying earthquakes very intensely for a good century now using every single earthquake on the planet using increasingly sophisticated tools and statistics looking for any possible pattern or method of prediction. No connection between atmospheric phenomena and earthquakes has been found.

 

[Trakar]

You're missing the point.

What do you think the mechanism is linking the solar wind to the frequency of lighting here on Earth ?

And before the paper Evidence for solar wind modulation of lightning came out how many gave credence to such a notion ?

and would have ridiculed anyone for suggesting it ! Try to be honest here !

So the notion that solar events can "trigger" earthquakes ... etc, here on Earth isn't so far removed. As for the energy involved to do such a thing ... well remember the anti-fracking lobby claim the pressure involved in that can "trigger" earthquakes too

See the point now ?

No, I didn't think so but others might


Quakes, Sun, Daddy S0 | S0 News May 23, 2015

Even a strong correlation, which this is not, does not indicate causation absent a confirmed and established mechanism of causation. I see no compellingly supported and evidenced mechanism of causation.

 

[Haig]

Even a strong correlation, which this is not, does not indicate causation absent a confirmed and established mechanism of causation. I see no compellingly supported and evidenced mechanism of causation.

Let me ask you Traker the same question that Jrrarglblarg failed to answer or respond to in any meaningful way.

What do you think the mechanism is linking the solar wind to the frequency of lighting here on Earth ?

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

I didn't answer it because it's a meaningless question in this thread. Lightning is not earthquakes.

And the answer is ions.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

And you still don't have a mechanism to couple solar-source ions to tectonic activity from 3 to 300,000m below the surface of the earth. Magical hand waving about lightning isn't it.

 

[Haig]

I didn't answer it because it's a meaningless question in this thread. Lightning is not earthquakes.

And the answer is ions.

Got a source for this answer ?

Solar wind controlling the lightning and hence storms here on Earth actually is relevant to this ... Solar events triggering earthquakes, volcanoes, major storms.

See the connection now

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

First, how is "solar wind" different from my answer.

Second, how is there any kind of "connection" for me to "see now" between utterly disparate phenomena of completely different magnitudes (and kinds!) of energy.

Lighting and earthquakes are as different as opera and ducks.

 

[Haig]

First, how is "solar wind" different from my answer.

Second, how is there any kind of "connection" for me to "see now" between utterly disparate phenomena of completely different magnitudes (and kinds!) of energy.

Lighting and earthquakes are as different as opera and ducks.

You're not trying

Volcanic Lightning

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

You have zero intention of answering my direct question, don't you?