Haig and his Sun caused earthquakes

The Atheist said:
I'll let Ken Ring know straight away. He tells me it's the moon that causes earthquakes and he predicted the Christchurch earthquake.

Did you know all earthquakes happen within seven days of a full or new moon?
Click to expand...

Gee, that narrows the window.
 
The Atheist said:
I'll let Ken Ring know straight away. He tells me it's the moon that causes earthquakes and he predicted the Christchurch earthquake.

Did you know all earthquakes happen within seven days of a full or new moon?
Click to expand...

Around 42% happen within 24 hours of a Sunday. Maybe there is something to Haig's theory ;)
 
Haig said:
Something to chew on :D

<snipped linkspaam>

He who has the last laugh ... :p
Click to expand...


Haig, why is it you never make a serious effort to convince us by posting some real science? Any half-bright sizth grader can see that nyour links lead to only gasbags and scammers. And on the rare occassions you do link to NASA or someone else who provides some real science, we can expect you to misrepresent the science.

So why post here if you're not interested in real science? Are you playing to an audience elsewhere?
 
Last edited:
ferd burfle said:
Haig, why is it you never make a serious effort to convince us by posting some real science? Any half-bright sizth grader can see that nyour links lead to only gasbags and scammers. And on the rare occassions you do link to NASA or someone else who provides some real science, we can expect you to misrepresent the science.

So why post here if you're not interested in real science? Are you playing to an audience elsewhere?
Click to expand...


I guess ferd it's because some people are incapable of seeing through the dogma and their own beliefs to give a fair hearing to new ideas. The science is there if you follow the scientific method / empirical science.

For a forum for "international skeptics" I find it amusing that so few challenge the mainstream line.

Remember I didn't start this thread "Haig and his Sun caused earthquakes" that was aleCcowaN's decision (what happened to him ?) and I thank him but I'm not sure it's turning out as he planned ? ;)

Anyway, the point is that there is a new dawning that the Sun - Earth connection has been neglected and also poorly understood.

A small part of the new interest was given a boost by the efforts of Suspicious0bservers and this video (below) explains his eureka moment well.

Sure, this earthquake, volcano, major storm triggering hypothesis it's still at the data collection / empirical science stage but it's not going away and papers are in the pipeline, I understand.

I've posted it before and some where confused by the video makers "explanation notes" found below the video, just click "see more" but pasted here for convenience.


Earthquakes and the Solar System
Published on Jan 6, 2014
1) Magnetic Polarity Data: http://wso.stanford.edu/Polar.html -- it has stopped updating since 11/23/2013.
2) Jupiter opposes the sun now, and Venus conjoins Mercury on January 8th. Anyone see that coronal hole coming in now?
3) There are some things you cannot un-see. If indeed the IMF and coronal holes are quake factors as I suggested for 2 years, then the underlying magnetics of the sun MUST be relevant to seismicity. I THOUGHT I was going to find an answer to the baffling quake droughts! ...I'm still in shock at how perfectly this matches.
4) Today's news will appear on the website only, in a few hrs, going back to sleep. Be safe everyone.
Click to expand...


Well ferd, I doubt this post of mine will have help you understand my motives but this is real science even if you or others can't see it :)

But if you don't like it feel free to ignore it :cool:
 
Haig said:
Well ferd, I doubt this post of mine will have help you understand my motives but this is real science even if you or others can't see it :)

But if you don't like it feel free to ignore it :cool:
Click to expand...


First of all, sincere thanks for your post. It was more considered and direct than anything I've seen you poost. I don't agree with a single bit of your "science", of course :) but you already knew that.

I won't ignore your posts but I quit following your YouBoob links long ago. Not only are they spewing nonsense but they're just plain boring.

Real scinece gets things done. If your version of science worked we'd be calling it, well, science.
 
ferd burfle said:
First of all, sincere thanks for your post. It was more considered and direct than anything I've seen you poost. I don't agree with a single bit of your "science", of course :) but you already knew that.

I won't ignore your posts but I quit following your YouBoob links long ago. Not only are they spewing nonsense but they're just plain boring.

Real scinece gets things done. If your version of science worked we'd be calling it, well, science.
Click to expand...


Fair enough :)

We can agree to disagree for now ... until the "science" becomes irrefutable ;)
 
Haig said:
I guess ferd it's because some people are incapable of seeing through the dogma and their own beliefs to give a fair hearing to new ideas.
Click to expand...
Actually, Haig, it is you who are spamming this thread with non-science because you are incapable of seeing through the dogma and your own beliefs to give a fair hearing to new ideas and see that they are wrong :jaw-dropp.

As soon as you viewed the first video you should have seen how ignorant Ben Davidson was. Pointing out solar activity and then an earthquake is stupid when there is solar activity and earthquakes all of the time. Creating many of videos repeating that stupidity passes into the realm of delusion.

Haig said:
The science is there if you follow the scientific method / empirical science.
Click to expand...
When are you going to do this Haig?

And as an aside there is your prolonged support from 7th November 2010 for the electric comet delusion that comets are rocks despite the empirical science that they are less dense then water. That physical fact is in my post just before your post! The empirical evidence against the electric comet was listed inThe electric comet fantasy completely debunked (19th April 2010)
 
Last edited:
Haig said:
Sure, this earthquake, volcano, major storm triggering hypothesis it's still at the data collection / empirical science stage but it's not going away and papers are in the pipeline, I understand.
Click to expand...

Interestingly, that seems to be always the case in your threads.

In the mean while mainstream physics actually uses the data that is obtained.

By the way, please inform us in what peer reviewed journal that Robitaille paper is (going to be) published.
 
Last edited:
tusenfem said:
Interestingly, that seems to be always the case in your threads.

In the mean while mainstream physics actually uses the data that is obtained.

By the way, please inform us in what peer reviewed journal that Robitaille paper is (going to be) published.
Click to expand...


And here's more data to chew on :D

M6.9 Earthquake, STARWATER | S0 News May 21, 2015

This is interesting too

Ceres Bright Spots
"Dawn scientists can now conclude that the intense brightness of these spots is due to the reflection of sunlight by highly reflective material on the surface, possibly ice," Christopher Russell, principal investigator for the Dawn mission from the University of California, Los Angeles, said recently.
Click to expand...
 
Last edited:
tusenfem said:
And again another non-answer and off topic.
Click to expand...


Sure is an answer ;)

The data referred to, in particular, is from 0.32

The Ceres Bright Spots bit is, as I said, just for interest. Don't go getting confused again ;)
 
Haig said:
Sure is an answer

The data referred to, in particular, is from 0.32
Click to expand...

Nah, no answer, just a sleep inducing voice over., now I know again why I don't do boobtube.

And how about that Robetaille paper, which peer reviewed journal is that (going to be) published?
 
There is a Earth-Sun connection. It is called gravitation I thought?

I also thought earthquakes were directly caused by land moving and readjusting as the interior cools and contracts?

Did I miss something?
 
jeffreyw said:
There is a Earth-Sun connection. It is called gravitation I thought?

I also thought earthquakes were directly caused by land moving and readjusting as the interior cools and contracts?

Did I miss something?
Click to expand...


It's not as simple as gravity ;)

NASA - Sun-Earth Connection (my bold)
The Sun's plasma is so hot that the most energetic charged particles can escape from the Sun's gravity and fly away, out into space. We call this plasma the solar wind because it blows out away from the Sun and past the planets, interacting with their magnetic fields and/or atmospheres. Along with the solar wind comes the Sun's magnetic field, which reaches from the Sun out to past Pluto and Neptune.

Charged particles and magnetic fields influence each other. So when the solar wind, which is made up of charged particles, blows past Earth's magnetosphere, the shape of the magnetic field changes from the dipole magnetic field - shown on Earth's Magnetosphere page - to a plasma-swept magnetosphere that looks more like someone's hair got blown in the wind. This interaction between the Sun's plasma wind and Earth's magnetosphere is known as the Sun-Earth Connection.
Click to expand...
 
Solar wind blows earthquakes? That's like sinking the Titanic with a can of hairspray.

1) you have no physical phenomena capable of performing the actions
2) we can't even complain "correlation does not equal causation" because your correlations aren't even valid
3) cherry picking a few earthquakes that happened within some absurdly large window of time following a solar event totally ignores all the other times a solar event has not affected earthquake. See #2 again.
 
Jrrarglblarg said:
Solar wind blows earthquakes? That's like sinking the Titanic with a can of hairspray.

1) you have no physical phenomena capable of performing the actions
2) we can't even complain "correlation does not equal causation" because your correlations aren't even valid
3) cherry picking a few earthquakes that happened within some absurdly large window of time following a solar event totally ignores all the other times a solar event has not affected earthquake. See #2 again.
Click to expand...

The Carrington superstorm of 1859 was a massive solar event yet both earthquakes listed in Wikipedia for that year occurred before the event, and were fairly small.

Wiki doesn't list any earthquakes in 1860.
 
tusenfem said:
And how about that Robetaille paper, which peer reviewed journal is that (going to be) published?
Click to expand...


Not sure - but it may be Natural Sciences Publishing

Jrrarglblarg said:
Solar wind blows earthquakes? That's like sinking the Titanic with a can of hairspray.

1) you have no physical phenomena capable of performing the actions
2) we can't even complain "correlation does not equal causation" because your correlations aren't even valid
3) cherry picking a few earthquakes that happened within some absurdly large window of time following a solar event totally ignores all the other times a solar event has not affected earthquake. See #2 again.
Click to expand...


Maybe you need to think again ? The Sun - Earth connection is tricky stuff ;)


Influences of solar cycles on earthquakes April 2011
ABSTRACT

This paper inspects possible influence of solar cycles on earthquakes through of statistical analyses. We also discussed the mechanism that would drive the occurrence of increasing of earthquakes during solar maxima. The study was based on worldwide earthquakes events during approximately four hundred years (1600-2010).The increase of earthquakes events followed the Maxima of Solar cycle, and also depends on the tectonic plate location. From 1600 until 1645 events increased during the Maxima in some of the tectonic plates as Pacific, Arabian and South America. The earthquakes analyzed during two grand solar minima, the Maunder (1645-1720) and the Dalton (1790-1820)showed a decrease in the number of earth-quakes and the solar activity. It was observed during these minima a significant number of events at specific geological features. After the last minima (Dalton) the earthquakes pattern increased with solar maxima. The calculations showed that events increasing during solar maxima most in the Pacific, South America or Arabian until 1900. Since there were few records during these three centuries we needed additional analysis on modern data. We took the last four solar cycles events (1950-2010) and made similar calculations. The results agreed with the former calculations. It might be that the mechanism for the Sun-Earth connection relies on the solar wind speed. In both records (1600-1900)and (1950-2010) the results showed a significant increase in earthquakes events in some of the tectonic plates linked to solar maxima. The Solar wind energy striking the Earth’s magneto-sphere affects the entire environment because the pressure on the region increases and the magnetosphere shrinks sometimes four Earth’s radii. This sudden compression causes earth-quakes in specific plates. During the times of solar minima the pressure from the solar wind on the earth decreases, then the magnetosphere expands and earthquakes happen in a different pattern according to the geological feature on earth’s surface less frequently. Solar driven events include coronal mass ejections (CME) and coronal holes, which are at a maximum during the descending phase of solar activity.The tectonic are important because there is heterogeneity in the crust and the tectonic stress depends on each region. The geo-effectiveness of solar wind from a coronal hole only depends on the position of the hole relative to the Earth and for the CMEs an additional factor is their velocity. The influence of these solar events could be detected from electromagnetic variations on the ground prior the earthquakes. The goal in this research was to show the solar events influenced the earthquakes and seismologic events following some special display and also how the Sun’s activity played to make earthquakes increase. This paper discussed details of this mechanism, calculations and associated factors.
Click to expand...


The highest correlation (Sun-Earth) is observed for shallow earthquake events. In the period (1900-2010) there has been generally higher solar activity with many sunspots and CME's
Click to expand...


Seems they are on to something ;) What do you think ?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page

ISF - Join now!

Every member here is approved by hand. No bots, no spam, just people who care about evidence and honest debate.

Membership is free!

Create your free account

Back
Top Bottom