Haig and his Sun caused earthquakes

haig said:
Published on 6 Jan 2014
1) Magnetic Polarity Data: http://wso.stanford.edu/Polar.html -- it has stopped updating since 11/23/2013.
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Strangely when I go to the stanford page the last three lines are:
2015:04:07_21h:07m:13s 15N -56S 36Avg 20nhz filt: 10Nf -50Sf 30Avgf
2015:04:17_21h:07m:13s 11N -59S 35Avg 20nhz filt: 11Nf -50Sf 31Avgf
2015:04:27_21h:07m:13s 13N -61S 37Avg 20nhz filt: 11Nf -51Sf 31Avgf

So please, haig tell whatever idiot you are quoting there, that he is lying.
 
tusenfem said:
Strangely when I go to the stanford page the last three lines are:
2015:04:07_21h:07m:13s 15N -56S 36Avg 20nhz filt: 10Nf -50Sf 30Avgf
2015:04:17_21h:07m:13s 11N -59S 35Avg 20nhz filt: 11Nf -50Sf 31Avgf
2015:04:27_21h:07m:13s 13N -61S 37Avg 20nhz filt: 11Nf -51Sf 31Avgf

So please, haig tell whatever idiot you are quoting there, that he is lying.
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Hi tusenfem,

I've been fascinated by your posts here - especially as, just like Haig, I'm a non-scientist.

Could you please translate those entries into English, please? :)

I'm curious!
 
Hi Rincewind,
Tusenfem's point is that Haig's claim that "it has stopped updating since 11/23/2013" is negated by the date stamp on the latest data!
"2015:04:27_21h:07m:13s 13N -61S 37Avg 20nhz filt: 11Nf -51Sf 31Avgf"
That is, 27/04/2015
So much for no updates :-)
 
Tusenfem, beelzebub has summed up the reason why haig was wrong on this point. For the sake of completeness though; The figures are an average of 30 daily field strength measurements, North, South and Average. Also the values after running through a 20nHz filter, annotated as Nf, Sf, and Avgf.
 
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Rincewind said:
Hi tusenfem,

I've been fascinated by your posts here - especially as, just like Haig, I'm a non-scientist.

Could you please translate those entries into English, please?

I'm curious!
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From the website that I linked, this list shows:

Wilcox Solar Observatory Polar Field Observations

These WSO data are intended to be the most untouched measure of the solar polar field strength, i.e. presented with the least possible amount of processing. WSO Polar Aperture

The Sun's Polar Field strength is measured in the polemost 3' apertures at WSO each day, north and south.

The polemost aperture measures the line-of-sight field between about 55 and the poles.

As Earth moves above and below the equator each year the solar coordinates of the apertures shift.

Depending on the observatory optics and the date, the square aperture at the pole will be oriented differently on the Sun during each measurement.

Each 10 days the usable daily polar field measurements in a centered 30-day window are averaged.

A 20nhz low pass filtered values eliminate yearly geometric projection effects.

Data are updated about once a month.
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but I guess the plot associated with it shows it clearer: http://wso.stanford.edu/gifs/Polar.gif

So it is:
time - north field - south field - avaraged field - 20 nanoHz filtered - north field - south field - averaged field

The three lines I gave was only to show the nonsense about the data not being there on the site.
 
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tusenfem said:
From the website that I linked, this list shows:



but I guess the plot associated with it shows it clearer: http://wso.stanford.edu/gifs/Polar.gif

So it is:
time - north field - south field - avaraged field - 20 nanoHz filtered - north field - south field - averaged field

The three lines I gave was only to show the nonsense about the data not being there on the site.
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Thank you - and the others who contributed!

It's good to know.

I did realise that you were commenting on the supposed lack of recent data!

:)
 
beelzebub said:
Hi Rincewind,
Tusenfem's point is that Haig's claim that "it has stopped updating since 11/23/2013" is negated by the date stamp on the latest data!
"2015:04:27_21h:07m:13s 13N -61S 37Avg 20nhz filt: 11Nf -51Sf 31Avgf"
That is, 27/04/2015
So much for no updates :-)
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Gezz guys, it wasn't my claim ... look HERE

And more to the point the date on the piece was Published on 6 Jan 2014
and that "it has stopped updating since 11/23/2013" which was true THEN !


Get a grip ! ;)
 
Haig said:
Gezz guys, it wasn't my claim ... look HERE

And more to the point the date on the piece was Published on 6 Jan 2014
and that "it has stopped updating since 11/23/2013" which was true THEN !


Get a grip ! ;)
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It was your quote of your youtube link that is a pile of guff
Earthquakes and the Solar System
Published on 6 Jan 2014
1) Magnetic Polarity Data: http://wso.stanford.edu/Polar.html -- it has stopped updating since 11/23/2013.
2) Jupiter opposes the sun now, and Venus conjoins Mercury on January 8th. Anyone see that coronal hole coming in now?
3) There are some things you cannot un-see. If indeed the IMF and coronal holes are quake factors as I suggested for 2 years, then the underlying magnetics of the sun MUST be relevant to seismicity. I THOUGHT I was going to find an answer to the baffling quake droughts! ...I'm still in shock at how perfectly this matches.
4) Today's news will appear on the website only, in a few hrs, going back to sleep. Be safe everyone.
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Haig said:
Gezz guys, it wasn't my claim ... look HERE

And more to the point the date on the piece was Published on 6 Jan 2014
and that "it has stopped updating since 11/23/2013" which was true THEN !


Get a grip !
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then why quote this? what is your point spreading misinformation? it must fit in your plan somehow. and even then the claim was nonsense because it is monthly averages and producing those takes a wee bit of time including editing the website. so somehow you seem to have an agenda here.
 
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Haig said:
Ah! so you didn't understand this post ...
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Ah so you have the delusion that Venus's magnetotail can cause earthquakes on Earth through gravity, Haig :p

The science is simple enough for a child to understand. We do not observe a pattern of earthquakes caused by the Moon. The combined gravitational influence on the Earth by Jupiter and Saturn and every other planet in the Solar System is 50 times less than that of the Moon.
Bad Astronomy January 21, 1998 :eye-poppi!
Every few years, doomsayers start popping up and talking about the planets in the solar system lining up. This alignment, they claim, will cause earthquakes, floods and in some cases split the planet in two like a cleaver through a head of lettuce.
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Brian Monson has also worked out the positions and times of several past alignments and shows that better alignments in recent history than the one coming up in May of 2000 have occurred with no ill effects.
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But just how strong is the influence of the planets? This turns out to be a relatively easy calculation. ... The total pull of all the planets combined is 0.017, not even 2% of the Moon's pull!
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However given Ben Davidson's obsession and delusions about the Sun, this delusion of his that you are mindlessly repeating is possibly that this alignment will cause flares on the Sun that he fantasizes will cause earthquakes on Earth.
 
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Reality Check said:
Ah so you have the delusion that Venus's magnetotail can cause earthquakes on Earth through gravity, Haig :p
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Nope, who mention gravity apart from you ? ;)

Maybe it's a bit like magnetic flux tubes that NASA found stretch from the Sun to the Earth :eek:

However given Ben Davidson's obsession and delusions about the Sun, this delusion of his that you are mindlessly repeating is possibly that this alignment will cause flares on the Sun that he fantasizes will cause earthquakes on Earth.
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Well lets see then :p

Magnetic Storm, Magnetic Orion | S0 News May 19, 2015
 
Haig, I'm worried. See, I was born during WW2, when everything was rationed and there were a lot of shortages. The hospital where I was born didn't even issue birth certificates; they just gave my parents a kind of receipt for one baby and that was it.

So I don't have a birth sign!

Never mind about A Unique Person, he's at least a Virgo (or so he says), but what's going to happen to me when the Rapture, excuse me, the Alignment comes?

Let's get some expertise going here, wottaya say?
 
sackett said:
Haig, I'm worried. See, I was born during WW2, when everything was rationed and there were a lot of shortages. The hospital where I was born didn't even issue birth certificates; they just gave my parents a kind of receipt for one baby and that was it.

So I don't have a birth sign!

Never mind about A Unique Person, he's at least a Virgo (or so he says), but what's going to happen to me when the Rapture, excuse me, the Alignment comes?

Let's get some expertise going here, wottaya say?
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Well sackett,

First thing is you're on the wrong thread, this is a science topic :cool:

but, I'd say you need professional help or maybe just a life :p
 
Haig said:
Maybe it's a bit like magnetic flux tubes that NASA found stretch from the Sun to the Earth :eek:
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It is exactly like a fantasy spun from ignorance about science and what you cite, Haig :jaw-dropp!
A magnetotail is not a magnetic flux tube.
NASA has never found any magnetic flux tubes that stretch from the Sun to the Earth :eek:!
You may be referring to that NASA found that rather than the solar wind steadily feeding into the Earth's magnetosphere it happens in bursts called flux transfer events: Magnetic Portals Connect Earth to the Sun

The science you are fantasizing, Haig, about is:
Venus tail ray observation near Earth (1997) by Grünwaldt, H. et al.
In June, 1996, Venus passed through a very close inferior conjunction with the Sun. At that time the CTOF detector of the CELIAS mass spectrometer experiment on the SOHO spacecraft near Earth's L1 Lagrangian point was measuring heavy ions in the solar wind ˜4.5 × 107 km downstream of Venus. Close to the time predicted by simple geometric arguments for passage of SOHO through the Venus wake, CTOF made three encounters with unusual fluxes of O+ and C+ ions. Their energy distributions resembled those of tail rays originating in the Venus ionosphere or ionopause region rather than of ions produced in the corona of neutral atoms that surrounds the planet. The C+ abundance was ≈ 10% of O+. The observed O+ speed was very close to the simultaneous solar wind speed and the O+ temperature was a cool 5600 K/amu. The flux densities for the three events were (2.4-4.4) × 10³ cm-2s-1.
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That is "near" Earth (about 1.5 million kilometers from Earth!) - not to the Earth.
That is a component of the solar wind with a composition that marks it as probably originating from Venus - not magical stuff you can spin fairy stories about.
 
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aleCcowaN said:
The title is right. Haig proposes earthquakes to be caused by solar activity.
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I'll let Ken Ring know straight away. He tells me it's the moon that causes earthquakes and he predicted the Christchurch earthquake.

Did you know all earthquakes happen within seven days of a full or new moon?
 
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