FLT 77 Flight Recorder Data - Pilots for Truth

[Corsair 115]

Are the military not trained for chaotic events...

You've never head the old military sayings, "no plan survives first contact with the enemy" and "the fog of war"?

 

[T.A.M.]

Are the military not trained for chaotic events....I mean they didnt do anything on 9/11......Hijacked jets just flying around and no one to stop them......Can it really just be confusion.....

Ben

Where do you get this "they didn't do anything" on 9/11?

Have you listened to the NORAD Tapes? Have you read the accounts of those involved? After all of your research into this, that is what you have concluded?

Shameful.

TAM

 

[ElMondoHummus]

Good Lord... does no one in the Truth Movement read those who've done basic primary research??

It is an excessive oversimplification to sum up the response by the military by saying "... they didnt do anything on 9/11", and it also ignores the civillian air traffic control's involvement. Mistakenly summarizing the events of that day in that manner betrays a lack of research and an appalling ignorance regarding the basic elements of the event.

Strongly suggested basic reading:

• Vanity Fair - 9/11 Live: The NORAD Tapes
• Gumboot's "The NORAD 9/11 Response" basic timeline
• Gumboot's further elaboration on the NORAD Response

This is basic reading. This only gets the reader up to speed on the events of that day. Learning those elements should erase any hideously mistaken notion that "... they didnt do anything on 9/11".

Read it, please. Please gain a basic understanding before you make such a terribly erroneous conclusion again.

 

[tsig]

It's called confusion over a very chaotic event. The world is an imperfect place.

Not in Ct land where everything has to fit and make sense to them.

 

[beachnut]

Ed Santana, FDR Expert from L3 Communications, the manufacturer of the FDR, is on a recordered interview on PfT front page. You didnt see it eeyore?

I love the p4t experts! Ed Santana is a Sales Manager. Their FDR expert is a sales manager!

 

[JHarrow]

You first problem is you believe that they didn't do anything. This is a big country and things were over before anyone could get there. I think you would have found though that UAL 93 wouldn't have made it to Washington if that's any conciliation.

Perhaps all the drills that were taking place at the time, including hijack scenarios, were causing them some confusion.

 

[beachnut]

Perhaps all the drills that were taking place at the time, including hijack scenarios, were causing them some confusion.

Nope and the FDR has not a thing to do with drills. Wrong, drills would have extra supervision and enable better response.

But then, this is a FDR thread not a NORAD Pentagon drill thread. Got some FDR facts?

 

[wtcconspiracy]

Where do you get this "they didn't do anything" on 9/11?

Have you listened to the NORAD Tapes? Have you read the accounts of those involved? After all of your research into this, that is what you have concluded?

Shameful.

TAM

well i get the fact from the world trade center being destroyed and a hole in the side of the pentagon....kinda shows military didnt do anything......

Ben

 

[wtcconspiracy]

Where do you get this "they didn't do anything" on 9/11?

Have you listened to the NORAD Tapes? Have you read the accounts of those involved? After all of your research into this, that is what you have concluded?

Shameful.

TAM

ok this transmission is shameful......

ROUNTREE: Is that real-world?
DOOLEY: Real-world hijack.
WATSON: Cool!
(bold for emphasis).....
How exactly is a Real-world hiacking cool.....am i missing something......

Ben

 

[beachnut]

ok this transmission is shameful......

ROUNTREE: Is that real-world?
DOOLEY: Real-world hijack.
WATSON: Cool!
(bold for emphasis).....
How exactly is a Real-world hiacking cool.....am i missing something......

Ben

No! Normally a hijacking in the US means a trip to Cuba, or some other thing. I doubt the controllers know the pilots have been executed! I doubt anyone knew the planes were now weapons; when did you figure out 9/11? Oh, it has been six years and you have zero clues!

It may seem like a shallow thing to say, but it shows his enthusiasm to do REAL WORLD events instead of some stupid drill! (but only shallow in hindsight, he does not yet have full idea what 9/11 will mean yet; did he?!)

In minutes the people on flight 93 figured out 9/11, it has taken you only 6 years to make up junk and still you are lost without a clue. This is a tread about FDR! Not NORAD or other silly 9/11 truth ideas.

Do you have FDR stuff?

 

[twinstead]

Christ how I HATE the "well, if I were to do that, I would have done it different, therefore it is suspicious" crap.

 

[MG1962]

ok this transmission is shameful......

ROUNTREE: Is that real-world?
DOOLEY: Real-world hijack.
WATSON: Cool!
(bold for emphasis).....
How exactly is a Real-world hiacking cool.....am i missing something......

Ben

Thats no worse than the range director calling off altitude and down range readings as Challenger sprayed herself all over the North Atlantic.

Or in the 1950s when 27 spectators were killed during the running of the Le-Mans 24 hour race - The officals forced the drivers to continue racing, so that ambulances could get in and out of the curcuit

 

[Garb]

ok this transmission is shameful......

ROUNTREE: Is that real-world?
DOOLEY: Real-world hijack.
WATSON: Cool!
(bold for emphasis).....
How exactly is a Real-world hiacking cool.....am i missing something......

Ben

How exactly is that statement proof of a standown or inside job theory?

 

[iAmerican]

Those open to enlightenment regarding 9-11 need only read Emeritus Professor David Ray Griffin's "The New Pearl Harbor." Though his manner is gentle and academic, his reputation is unimpeachable and through his inexorable and exhaustive heuristic the only possible conclusion, for a reasonable person, incontrovertible: Bush and Cheney committed 9-11.

Please stick to the topic at hand, Flight 77 Recorder Data. Any further derails will be moved to AAH.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Lisa Simpson

 

[WildCat]

Bush and Cheney committed 9-11.

Good for them!

 

[beachnut]

Those open to enlightenment regarding 9-11 need only read Emeritus Professor David Ray Griffin's "The New Pearl Harbor." Though his manner is gentle and academic, his reputation is unimpeachable and through his inexorable and exhaustive heuristic the only possible conclusion, for a reasonable person, incontrovertible: Bush and Cheney committed 9-11.

You believe the biggest hearsay master David Ray Griffin, who only writes books of hearsay to part a fool from his money. Not the best person to believe, all his conclusions on 9/11 are failed, false and pure fraud.

 

[Walter Ego]

Those open to enlightenment regarding 9-11 need only read Emeritus Professor David Ray Griffin's "The New Pearl Harbor." Though his manner is gentle and academic, his reputation is unimpeachable and through his inexorable and exhaustive heuristic the only possible conclusion, for a reasonable person, incontrovertible: Bush and Cheney committed 9-11.

David Ray Griffin? The same guy who claimed there were no GTE airphones in United Airline planes on 9-11 and who, when corrected in that false statement, withdrew the claim only to go back to making the same false claim because it was ‘too good’ not to use it. That David Ray Griffin?

 

[iAmerican]

David Ray Griffin? The same guy who claimed there were no GTE airphones in United Airline planes on 9-11 and who, when corrected in that false statement, withdrew the claim only to go back to making the same false claim because it was ‘too good’ not to use it. That David Ray Griffin?

As Professor Griffin's sedulous proof of Bush/Cheney's treason is absolute based on inarguable public knowledge of indisputable statements, actions and evidence, would you mind providing specific cites of the minutiae you question? I've spent some time reviewing "The New Pearl Harbor," Griffin, 2004, 6th Printing, and online, attempting to validate your criticism, with no success. TIA

 

[AMTMAN]

You believe the biggest hearsay master David Ray Griffin, who only writes books of hearsay to part a fool from his money. Not the best person to believe, all his conclusions on 9/11 are failed, false and pure fraud.

I think iAmerican knows that if he says how wonderful DRG is he is going to get a response. Just another way of trolling, nothing more nothing less.

 

[twinstead]

The best punishment I can think of for people like iAmerican is already happening, namely continuing to bask in irrelevance on an internet forum while his 'movement' slowly vanishes.

That's gotta hurt.