DJLegacy of LC Forum Proves Gravy Dead Wrong!

Well let's see:

First off let's find your stance on "critical thinking".

If I said I was planning to egg your house tonite, and then tonite your house get's TP'ed, would I be the major suspect?
 
If you can't think more openly than the close mind batch of people on here then you will never understand anything, because you try to find something that your small brians can wrap around and close your mind off to anything you don't understand or don't want to understand.
 
Hi DJ.

I would like to ask you a question. It's not loaded, honest. :D

Is there anything that could make you change your mind on this CT? That would make you believe the official reports?



Edit. Oopsy, sorry, did I pick the wrong thread?
 
DJLegacy2k5 said:
If you can't think more openly than the close mind batch of people on here then you will never understand anything, because you try to find something that your small brians can wrap around and close your mind off to anything you don't understand or don't want to understand.
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Critical thinking and scientific methodology are the ultimate in neutral, objective approaches to understanding something. Since they deal with the physical world, they are testable, verifiable/falsifiable, and third-party reproducible. Again, if you want to start a thread on "What is critical thinking?" feel free, but this thread is for discussion of Gravy's critique, and peoples' objections to his critique.
 
First things first:

Gravy states that Operation Northwoods has no baring on any thoughts of 9/11.

Sure there is no way to say that project Northwoods, itself had anything to do with 9/11. because obviously it didn't, but that is not to say that the people in government that approved the plan before, would not draw up similar plans again later.

I have documented evidence of a man that was a part of a military study in which these men were asked to plan an "attack" that would hijack planes with boxcutters and use explosives to bring down the world trade centers. The EXACT plans that took place on 9/11. Of course the governemnt claimed they wanted this plan so they could make a defense for it, but this man then tells of a back up plan in case these plans were used agianst the USA. This man has taken a lie detector test to prove the validity of his claims.

http://www.codenamegrillfire.com

Check that out, scroll down the left hand side and listen to the Black Op Radio Interview. He goes into details about what exactly happened and how the planning for this went.

As I said before, if I threatened to EGG your house tonite, but your house got TP'ed tonite, don't you still think I would be the main suspect.

To say that none of this would at least make you feel the need to look into government involvement would be rediculous.
 
DJLegacy2k5 said:
If you can't think more openly than the close mind batch of people on here then you will never understand anything, because you try to find something that your small brians can wrap around and close your mind off to anything you don't understand or don't want to understand.
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Wow, is it me or does this sound suspiciously like the sort of thing a psychic/dowser/homeopath/etc. says when trying to provide pre-made excuses?
 
The "closed-minded" thing is just a bunch of Doggerel that amounts to little more than a distraction from the issue.
 
Here, I'll even kick things off:

On http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/lcg2.html, under the second section of comments by Gravy the follow statement is made
Yes, Wittenburg is a pilot. He is also a conspiracy theorist who does not believe that ANY aircraft hit the Pentagon, which makes him stupid or insane. Too bad, because his former co-workers were on that plane. I wonder what he thinks happened to them. He believes a missile hit the Pentagon. He has not produced a single piece of evidence to back that belief. He has not attempted to account for the dozens of eyewitnesses who saw the crash. He also believes that the other 3 flights were not piloted by Arabs, because they wouldn't have the skills. I believe that Russ Wittenburg wouldn't have the skills to be an investigator.
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This could be considered an ad hominem attackhttp://www.csun.edu/~dgw61315/fallacies.html#Argumentum%20ad%20hominem
 
DJLegacy2k5 said:
As I said before, if I threatened to EGG your house tonite, but your house got TP'ed tonite, don't you still think I would be the main suspect.
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That fully depends on where the HARD evidence of the event is pointing as your statement in regards to your plans are only anecdotal.

Are there any forensics evidence? Fingerprints? Tracktires? Surveilance videos? Anything at all?
 
DJLegacy2k5 said:
First things first:

Gravy states that Operation Northwoods has no baring on any thoughts of 9/11.

Sure there is no way to say that project Northwoods, itself had anything to do with 9/11. because obviously it didn't, but that is not to say that the people in government that approved the plan before, would not draw up similar plans again later.

I have documented evidence of a man that was a part of a military study in which these men were asked to plan an "attack" that would hijack planes with boxcutters and use explosives to bring down the world trade centers. The EXACT plans that took place on 9/11. Of course the governemnt claimed they wanted this plan so they could make a defense for it, but this man then tells of a back up plan in case these plans were used agianst the USA. This man has taken a lie detector test to prove the validity of his claims.

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War games are just that, and LOTS of things get war gamed.

You say that you have " documented evidence of a man that was a part of a military study "

I took Latin in HS. I've yet to speak it to someone.

A study equals guilt?

Geeze! They must be expecting a fire here, they built a fire escape.

I'm going to be in a crash someday - look somebody put seatbelts in my car!
 
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If the "study" was asking a group of military men to plan out an attack that used boxcutters to take of planes to fly them into the WTCs and to also use explosives in the process...You don't find that to suggest anything?
 
DJLegacy2k5 said:
If the "study" was asking a group of military men to plan out an attack that used boxcutters to take of planes to fly them into the WTCs and to also use explosives in the process...You don't find that to suggest anything?
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No.
 
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